Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    LOL!

    As I suspected.
     
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    Do your own homework. You are asking me to prove that water is wet.
     
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    You made the claim, my uninformed amigo. Surely you can back it up yourself instead of disingenuously claiming that it’s magically my job to do your research.
     
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    He was not referring to declaring National Emergencies. Do your homework.

    Trump is doing everything he criticized Obama for doing, which pretty much defines the word "hypocrite".

    Not that I care, since I was not Obama supporter.
     
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    Ad hominem noted. Surely you can make an argument without a logical fallacy mein freund.

    Of course I can back it up. But we are not talking about some obscure set of laws that require scholarly research. We are talking about common knowledge. Are you going to deny, for example, that federal law requires a person entering the country does so at an official port of entry? Are you going to deny that said person is required to identify himself, state the purpose of his visit, and depart the country on or before the end of his authorized duration of stay? Are you going to deny that it is a crime to perform any kind of paid work without proper documentation? Are you going to deny that it is a crime to use false documents in an attempt to obtain paid work? Are you going to deny that it is a crime to fail to report income and to fail to pay taxes on said income? The list goes on.

    Go ahead, deny it. I dare you.
     
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    That’s hilarious.
     
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    That’s hilarious.
     
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    Name one.
     
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    Maybe you. I say maybe because it's against the rules for personal insults.
     
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    Diversion tactic. Please answer my request or be silent, please. I don't enjoy wasting my time on diversions.
     
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    National emergency, executive order... no difference when the context is making an end run around Congress. You have an executive making law with the stroke of a pen, circumventing the entire system of checks and balances, and denying advice and consent. All I have to say is “DACA,” and your argument falls flat on its face.

    Bottom line: The president is fully within his legal authority to declare a national emergency.

    That said, we don’t need a wall. Never have...
     
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    I asked you first. Show me yours and I'll show you mine.
     
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    Red herring fallacy. You’re asking me to prove water is wet. If there were not millions of illegal aliens, you’d never have heard a nonsense term like “undocumented,” and Obama wouldn’t have usurped congressional authority by emplacing DACA by EO. And you’d not have scores of threads on this very forum made by illegal alien lovers trying to justify their unlawful presence here.

    LOL.
     
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    Jesus FC get a room.
     
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    I dare you to back up your argument. You seem to be suggesting that being in the country illegally = a “national emergency”, but I’d prefer not to guess which terrible argument you’re trying to use to justify Bonespurs’ idiotic lawlessness, so be specific.
     
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    It is, as you say, "raw intelligence", etc. yet was included in a FISA application.

    After two years a bipartisan Senate investigation committee has found no evidence of involvement between the Trump Campaign and the Russians. None.

    Interest has already moved on to investigating McCabe, Rosenstein, Strozk, Brennan, etc., now that there's a new AG, while you're still stuck on the phony dossier.
     
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    Yes, because who cares about the Steele Dossier being confirmed by uncovered facts over time?

    Did you read the link, Fred?
     
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    Sure. BUT. Whether or not a president can declare one to defy something the Congress has specifically denied is another issue. People like Rand Paul think it is unconstitutional.
     
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    Oh, ok, hehehehehe...
     
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    You mean like DACA.
     
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    Hawhawhaw!!!!
     
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    Yes, I did read the link and it seemed desperate and is old news. These 'uncovered facts' were presented to a FISA Court over two years ago and you say they're uncovering them now?

    According to two long time Democrats, here's where we stand now. It will get you to the next level.
     
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    No, DACA survived the courts. It should be obvious the topic is still Trump's declaration.
     
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    So you have nothing. That’s typical of modern liberals.
     
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    Too funny. Keep the comedy coming.
     

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