Israel is under massive Palestinian terror attacks

My argument is solid enough that you're not even commenting on it. Israel claiming their top down organized disciplined military fighting and winning a war just ran amok when ethnic cleansing 700.000 civilians and bulldozering their 100's and 100's of town and cities flat. To than see the same Jew government making apartheid laws to ban people to return home if they are Arab and make laws to thieve their properties... still claiming to be totally not involved. That is like listening to J Goebbels being the prosecutor, judge and jury at the Nuremberg trials.

 

Massively profited from the exploitation of other people all over the world for starters.

 

Speaking of goebbels... Pot meet kettle...

 

You mean like America? Would you care for a few examples? Probably not...

 

Now thats funny coming from a Brit. How many colonies did the US ever have compared to Britain ?

 

What argument? You're just repeating the some bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you've been saying since the start of this thread.

You still have not provided any evidence that the Israeli government was involved.

 

Go home with your personal attacks if you can't rebuke something.

 

This argument:
Israel claiming their top down organized disciplined military fighting and winning a war just ran amok when ethnic cleansing 700.000 civilians and bulldozering their 100's and 100's of town and cities flat. To than see the same Jew government making apartheid laws to ban people to return home if they are Arab and make laws to thieve their properties... still claiming to be totally not involved. That is like listening to J Goebbels being the prosecutor, judge and jury at the Nuremberg trials.

The Jew government banned Arabs from returning home because they are Arab, by law.
The Jew government made laws to thieve the properties of those Arabs.
So it's rather insane to claim they are not involved.
That, and it's unbelievable that they didn't play any part in what their army was doing, during a war.
That the Jew government claims it aint so, is like listening to Goebbels.

You only repeat "you do not have an argument", when you can't rebuke a thing.

 

Argument - "a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong."

Why would the Arabs even want to return to an apartheid state?

The expulsions were ordered by Israeli generals in order to secure control over occupied territory. There is no evidence that the Israeli government was ordering them to do so.

Goebbels was not involved in the Holocaust. He was the Minister of Propaganda.

 

Ignore, to refuse to show that you hear or see.
My argument stands, since you ignore it.
I consider you lost this since you're refusing to reply.
Which is alright.

According to the Jewish version of Goebbels.

 

I cannot reply to an argument that does not exist. All you have done is repeat the same stuff over and over again.

Ad hominem - "(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining."

 

I have made my argument, and so it does exist.
You're just trolling.

It aint a personal attack, because I'm not attacking anybody personally.

 

Last week you said Israel has been the agressor since about 10,000 years ago, would you make up your mind which lie you'll want to go with, and stick with it?

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Sure they were.

That's why egypt ordered the UN troops to leave the area, so they could be attacked more easily. Try making sense once in a while.

 

Were your "people" tortured and slaughtered for the last 2,000 years, and totally stateless with no home country to go to? Then maybe you could compare yourself to the jews. Until then, not so much.

 

yes. The English civil war killed more English than ww1 and ww2 combined.

Yes. The Normans stole it, oliver cromwell outlawed us, the industrial revolution enslaved us and took us from the land, and then we got exiled to a prison colony. And then we had to fight two world wars and then they gave any country that remotely looks like home to us to foriegners (and these are just the bigger events)

Free Palestine!

Saxony for the English!

 

I thought you were Australian

 

After the roman empire came and went, muslims live in Jerusalem.

During their oppression in europe they started to move and settle back. The Jewish mistreatment of palistines caused tension.

“Serfs they (the Jews) were in the lands of the Diaspora, and suddenly they find themselves in freedom [in Palestine]; and this change has awakened in them an inclination to despotism. They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause, and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination.” Zionist writer Ahad Ha’am, quoted in Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”

Jewish people started to buy land from wealthy land owners. Who didn't care about the people living on their land and their labors. And then they started gerring help from the British

“Zionist land policy was incorporated in the Constitution of the Jewish Agency for Palestine...’land is to be acquired as Jewish property and..the title to the lands acquired is to be taken in the name of the Jewish National Fund, to the end that the same shall be held as the inalienable property of the Jewish people.’ The provision goes to stipulate that ‘the Agency shall promote agricultural colonization based on Jewish labor’...The effect of this Zionist colonization policy on the Arabs was that land acquired by Jews became extra-territorialized. It ceased to be land from which the Arabs could ever hope to gain any advantage...

“The Zionists made no secret of their intentions, for as early as 1921, Dr. Eder, a member of the Zionist Commission, boldly told the Court of Inquiry, ‘there can be only one National Home in Palestine, and that a Jewish one, and no equality in the partnership between Jews and Arabs, but a Jewish preponderance as soon as the numbers of the race are sufficiently increased.’ He then asked that only Jews should be allowed to bear arms.” Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”

Even if nobody lost their land, the [Zionist] program was unjust in principle because it denied majority political rights... Zionism, in principle, could not allow the natives to exercise their political rights because it would mean the end of the Zionist enterprise.” Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi, “Original Sins.”

Zionists started to displace more and more people. And conflicts started to immerge.

In 1936-9, the Palestinian Arabs attempted a nationalist revolt... David Ben-Gurion, eminently a realist, recognized its nature. In internal discussion, he noted that ‘in our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us,’ but he urged, ‘let us not ignore the truth among ourselves.’ The truth was that ‘politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country, while we are still outside’... The revolt was crushed by the British, with considerable brutality.” Noam Chomsky, “The Fateful Triangle.”


“Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French...What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct...If they [the Jews] must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb.
~Mahatma Gandhi

“In 1948, at the moment that Israel declared itself a state, it legally owned a little more than 6 percent of the land of Palestine...After 1940, when the mandatory authority restricted Jewish land ownership to specific zones inside Palestine, there continued to be illegal buying (and selling) within the 65 percent of the total area restricted to Arabs.

Thus when the partition plan was announced in 1947 it included land held illegally by Jews, which was incorporated as a fait accompli inside the borders of the Jewish state. And after Israel announced its statehood, an impressive series of laws legally assimilated huge tracts of Arab land (whose proprietors had become refugees, and were pronounced ‘absentee landlords’ in order to expropriate their lands and prevent their return under any circumstances).” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

“I am sorry gentlemen, but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands who are anxious for the success of Zionism. I do not have hundreds of thousands of Arabs among my constituents.” President Harry Truman, quoted in “Anti Zionism”, ed. by Teikener, Abed-Rabbo & Mezvinsky.

“Arab rejection was...based on the fact that, while the population of the Jewish state was to be [only half] Jewish with the Jews owning less than 10% of the Jewish state land area, the Jews were to be established as the ruling body — a settlement which no self-respecting people would accept without protest, to say the least...The action of the United Nations conflicted with the basic principles for which the world organization was established, namely, to uphold the right of all peoples to self-determination. By denying the Palestine Arabs, who formed the two-thirds majority of the country, the right to decide for themselves, the United Nations had violated its own charter.” Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”

The war begins

“In December 1947, the British announced that they would withdraw from Palestine by May 15, 1948. Palestinians in Jerusalem and Jaffa called a general strike against the partition. Fighting broke out in Jerusalem’s streets almost immediately...Violent incidents mushroomed into all-out war...During that fateful April of 1948, eight out of thirteen major Zionist military attacks on Palestinians occurred in the territory granted to the Arab state.” “Our Roots Are Still Alive” by the People Press Palestine Book Project.

Zionists’ disrespect of partition boundaries

“Before the end of the mandate and, therefore before any possible intervention by Arab states, the Jews, taking advantage of their superior military preparation and organization, had occupied...most of the Arab cities in Palestine before May 15, 1948. Tiberias was occupied on April 19, 1948, Haifa on April 22, Jaffa on April 28, the Arab quarters in the New City of Jerusalem on April 30, Beisan on May 8, Safad on May 10 and Acre on May 14, 1948...In contrast, the Palestine Arabs did not seize any of the territories reserved for the Jewish state under the partition resolution.” British author, Henry Cattan, “Palestine, The Arabs and Israel.”


Joseph Weitz was the director of the Jewish National Land Fund...On December 19, 1940, he wrote: ‘It must be clear that there is no room for both peoples in this country...The Zionist enterprise so far...has been fine and good in its own time, and could do with ‘land buying’ — but this will not bring about the State of Israel; that must come all at once, in the manner of a Salvation (this is the secret of the Messianic idea); and there is no way besides transferring the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries, to transfer them all; except maybe for Bethlehem, Nazareth and Old Jerusalem, we must not leave a single village, not a single tribe’...There were literally hundreds of such statements made by Zionists.” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

“That Ben-Gurion’s ultimate aim was to evacuate as much of the Arab population as possible from the Jewish state can hardly be doubted, if only from the variety of means he employed to achieve his purpose...most decisively, the destruction of whole villages and the eviction of their inhabitants...even [if] they had not participated in the war and had stayed in Israel hoping to live in peace and equality, as promised in the Declaration of Independence.” Israeli author, Simha Flapan, “The Birth of Israel.”


They have bulldozed many, many villages to establish settlement.

“During May [1948] ideas about how to consolidate and give permanence to the Palestinian exile began to crystallize, and the destruction of villages was immediately perceived as a primary means of achieving this aim...[Even earlier,] On 10 April, Haganah units took Abu Shusha... The village was destroyed that night... Khulda was leveled by Jewish bulldozers on 20 April... Abu Zureiq was completely demolished... Al Mansi and An Naghnaghiya, to the southeast, were also leveled. . .By mid-1949, the majority of [the 350 depopulated Arab villages] were either completely or partly in ruins and uninhabitable.” Benny Morris, “The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1947-1949.

“The first UN General Assembly resolution—Number 194— affirming the right of Palestinians to return to their homes and property, was passed on December 11, 1948. It has been repassed no less than twenty-eight times since that first date. Whereas the moral and political right of a person to return to his place of uninterrupted residence is acknowledged everywhere, Israel has negated the possibility of return... [and] systematically and juridically made it impossible, on any grounds whatever, for the Arab Palestinian to return, be compensated for his property, or live in Israel as a citizen equal before the law with a Jewish Israeli.” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

“The fact that the Arabs fled in terror, because of real fear of a repetition of the 1948 Zionist massacres, is no reason for denying them their homes, fields and livelihoods. Civilians caught in an area of military activity generally panic. But they have always been able to return to their homes when the danger subsides. Military conquest does not abolish private rights to property; nor does it entitle the victor to confiscate the homes, property and personal belongings of the noncombatant civilian population. The seizure of Arab property by the Israelis was an outrage.” Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”

“The winter of 1949, the first winter of exile for more than seven hundred fifty thousand Palestinians, was cold and hard...Families huddled in caves, abandoned huts, or makeshift tents...Many of the starving were only miles away from their own vegetable gardens and orchards in occupied Palestine — the new state of Israel...At the end of 1949 the United Nations finally acted. It set up the United Nations Relief and Works Administration (UNRWA) to take over sixty refugee camps from voluntary agencies. It managed to keep people alive, but only barely.” “Our Roots Are Still Alive” by The Peoples Press Palestine Book Project.

This was the reason for the agression. The reason for the embargo.

The whole time Zionist were the agressors


On top of that, isreal lied and said that muslims attacked them first on the 6 day war.

When that was proven wrong, they lied again and said that muslim forces was moving against them.

When United states proved this wrong, they made some other lie up.

Judging by the Zionists history of lying and attempting to rewrite history, I wouldn't believe anything they say unless they have "solid" proof.

After the 6 day war ended, what the Zionists started doing again? Bulldozing more homes.

And people wonder why terrorism exists.

 

America isn't even close to the evil the UK did and is still doing. Do you want some too? I can go as far as your (*)(*)(*)(*)ty country has been in existence. Do you really want to go there?

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Don't throw stone if you live in a glass house...

 

I stopped reading after that because it made everything else irrelevant.

Please, sir, do so kindly show me this post that I've made. I'm sure, since you'll have no problem recalling it, diging it up should be easy right?


But I'll entertain you anyway

“The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) monitored all Middle Eastern broadcasts throughout 1948. The records, and companion ones by a United States monitoring unit, can be seen at the British Museum. There was not a single order or appeal, or suggestion about evacuation from Palestine, from any Arab radio station, inside or outside Palestine, in 1948. There is a repeated monitored record of Arab appeals, even flat orders, to the civilians of Palestine to stay put.” Erskine Childers, British researcher, quoted in Sami Hadawi, “Bitter Harvest.”


Can you please stop lying?

 

I'm a Saxoni

 

You mean you actually try to read things instead of cut n paste from garbage web sites like where you grabbed that same long crap you've posted like 5 times in the last 2 days?

Did the egyptians order the UN troops to vacate the sinai?

Why did the arabs start the 1948 war? Why are arab muslims allowed to start wars, when everyone else has to use diplomacy?

 

The arab muslims had been running fedayeen terrorist attacks from jordan, egypt and syria for years before 1967. Had you spent a day in your life actually researching instead of visiting garbage web sites, you'd know what the arab muslims were threatening to do to the jews in Israel, and were consistently attacking/killing jews in terrorist attacks. Stick to the facts.

There is no proof that can convince a racist that their racism is wrong, they need to grow up and learn for themselves. Good luck.

 

Again Palestinian ISIS terrorists attack Israeli civilians while shouting Allah Akbaarrrrrr
Yesterday 4 Israeli civilians, one 71 years old, were attacked & seriously wounded by Palestinian evil attacks

 

Oh I just remembered you from earlier. Your that guy that ran away because you couldn't find any evidence. Instead you spent time talking about how bias my source was. Like I said before. Have you still found nothing to back up your lies? I'm guessing you couldn't find that 10,000 year thing ether.

Typical.

All your arguments doesn't change the fact that isreal started this by settling into land and displacing the people. (This is also a fact as proven by history) All the while they were doing this they were mistreating the palistinIan people. Even GANDHI spoke against Zionists.

This Zionist need to create a Jewish state is the root of the conflic. This is a fact


I have posted the facts. And posted the people who said those thing. I have both fact and sourses. You have neither.

Show me anyware that those people I posted didn't say those things.

You have failed time and time again to provide any evidence for you counter claims. You have no credibility until you do so.

You can duck and doge, avoiding the subject, but everyone who sees this know.

I have asked for evidence defending your counter claim more than once before and you have failed at every occasion.

Please stop lying, it's embarrassing. I'm tired of listening to BS. I'm going to bed.

 

It was YOU who keeps pasting the same crap nonsense off the same garbage website, it is YOU who needs to prove your claims, none of which you have done.

Riiiight, because jews are not allowed to move somewhere, but everyone else is. I see hundreds of thousands/millions of muslims moving to the West - but no problem there from a fly-by-night pro-arab terror apologist like you.

Why were the arab muslims allowed to start a war, instead of using diplomacy?

Correct, to counter the centuries of mistreatment by arab muslims, and to a lesser extent, christians.

You posted garbage from a hate site, and repeated it multiple times in several threads. I look forward to the admins properly addressing you.