Israel supports the Islamic State (IS, ISIS, ISIL)

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    Those of us who read jewish newspapers have known for a long time that Israel supports the incredibly evil terrorist organisation known as the Islamic State. For example, we find the following article in Haaretz:

    http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-1.605097#!

    The Islamic State has raped, enslaved and killed countless Syrians and Yazidis, but according to Haaretz, this is "refreshing news" because it means that these savages are only interested in fighting Israel's enemies.

    Then we have the following article in which a senior Israeli officer says that the West shouldn't fight ISIS because his country needs these terrorists:

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.623717#!

    As if that's not enough, Times of Israel has published an article in which Israeli defense minister Moshe Ya’alon says that he prefers the Islamic State to Iran:

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/

    What's your opinion on this matter? Do you agree with Ya’alon who says that Iran is worse than a terrorist organisation that has raped, enslaved and killed countless people? What do these jewish articles say about the values of "the only democracy in the Middle East"?
     
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    Jewish leader praises ISIS terrorist attacks in Paris that killed 130 people

    Chief rabbi Dov Lior who, among other things, says that it's permissible for jews to kill non-jews, including children, has praised the ISIS terrorist attacks in Paris that left 130 people dead because, in his mind, the French are antisemites who collaborated with Hitler in WWII and therefore deserve to be punished:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_Lior


    P.S. When I started this thread, the title read "Israel supports...", not "srael supports". Something must have happened to it.
     
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    This is a truth I have been claiming for months, but somehow it is not the bit of news that's popular here, in the occidental medias.
     
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    This is a bit of a slander and Israel as a Democracy and free speech would allow someone like Moshe Ya'alon to voice his opinion.
    As far as Haaretz Paper is concerned this has become such a rag that only the anti Israel crowd can find solace in its pages.
    I would not be surprised if this humiliating <supposedly Israeli> paper is run by far left contingent of supposedly reporters.
     
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    Let us work on the subject matter now that you have divulged that you knew about it for months... Get me the proof of this slander so I can verify that what you state has some value... From now on without your appropriate proof this will reflect only the hate you have towards my country!
     
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    Hebrew articles are often mistranslated in the English edition of Ha'aretz. It's not a trustworthy - to say the least - source for news on Israel.
     
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    The anti semitic drivel on this forum sinks as low as it gets. You will notice the article quoted does not state the state of Israel supports ISIL anywhere. But hey now Haaretz is "Jewish". Its Jewish you know. Its a circumsized newspaper.
     
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    I never said that I'm a jew.

    I've often heard people say "Swedish newspapers" even though these papers don't have blond hair or eat meatballs. Seriously, don't you realize how ridiculous this argument is?

    Since you like posting in my thread so much, why don't you try to explain away the fact that an influential jewish leader, chief rabbi Dov Lior, praised ISIS terrorist attacks in Paris that killed 130 people? Or is it more comfortable to simply attack the person who brings this information to the forum's readers?


    P.S. If my English is bad, it's because I'm not a native speaker. Please keep that in mind.
     
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    These are all lip service and/or rumours of West Bank infiltration for ethnic cleansing purposes. Do you have something tangible Isreal did to counter IS, like a blockade, economic mesures, strikes or assassinations, you know, the kind of stuff they commit on Palestinians?
     
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    Interesting, how is Israel circumcised? You do call it a Jewish State do you not?
     
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    According to the US government, the Islamic State is a much bigger threat to world peace than Iran. Jews and pro-jewish Americans often say that Israel and the US share the same values, interests, objectives, but this thread proves them wrong.
     
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    I looked up this Dov Lior chief rabbi and he sounds like a nut, not at all representative of the Israeli government or the average Israeli. He's very old and so he may even be suffering from senility and paranoia.

    Anyway he didn't exactly "praise" ISIS for the attacks on Paris. He was saying that the goyim (?) who died there deserved to die for what they did to the Jews 70 years ago. He's obviously a deranged fanatic; I doubt that many of the Paris victims of the 2015 massacre were even alive 70 years ago.

    But again, it's unfair to tar Israel collectively with the wild outbursts of one crazy old man.
     
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    Iran is an advanced industrial society with a nuclear program of god knows what level of advancement. That's why it is more dangerous to Israel than a bunch of nuts driving around Syria in pickup trucks.
     
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    Israel plays the US like a puppet in ME affairs. They have influence at about level of US governance, any US governance.

    I didn't hear of a massively powerful American lobby in Israel, to which every elected Israeli Prime Minister has to make a pledge to as soon as elected, like AIPAC in the 'States.
     
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    This "deranged fanatic" isn't some random mental patient in Tel Aviv, he's a chief rabbi, i.e. an influential religious leader. That's the problem.
    I've seen the ridiculous claim that Iran wants to "exterminate the jews", but that's nothing more than zionist propaganda. The Iranians just want to live in peace like normal people, and the international community knows that.

    Did you notice that Israel was virtually the only country that opposed the Iran nuclear deal? It's always Israel that stands in the way of peace.
    Now this is a great post.
     
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    Ridiculous claim? Zionist propaganda? You can't be serious. Here are reportedly some (just some) of what Iran's leaders, and leaders of its proxy militia, Hezbollah, in Lebanon, have said about Israel:

    Mohammad Khatami, the former president of Iran: “If we abide by real legal laws, we should mobilize the whole Islamic world for a sharp confrontation with the Zionist regime … if we abide by the Koran, all of us should mobilize to kill.” (2000)

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei: “It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region.” (2001)

    Hassan Nasrallah, a leader of Hezbollah: “If they [Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide.” (2002)

    Nasrallah: “Israel is our enemy. This is an aggressive, illegal, and illegitimate entity, which has no future in our land. Its destiny is manifested in our motto: ‘Death to Israel.’” (2005)

    Yahya Rahim Safavi, the former commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps: “With God’s help the time has come for the Zionist regime’s death sentence.” (2008)

    Mohammad Hassan Rahimian, Khamenei’s representative to the Moustazafan Foundation: “We have manufactured missiles that allow us, when necessary to replace [sic] Israel in its entirety with a big holocaust.” (2010)

    Mohammad Reza Naqdi, the commander of the Basij paramilitary force: “We recommend them [the Zionists] to pack their furniture and return to their countries. And if they insist on staying, they should know that a time while arrive when they will not even have time to pack their suitcases.” (2011)


    Khamenei: “The Zionist regime is a cancerous tumor and it will be removed.” (2012)

    Ahmad Alamolhoda, a member of the Assembly of Experts: “The destruction of Israel is the idea of the Islamic Revolution in Iran and is one of the pillars of the Iranian Islamic regime. We cannot claim that we have no intention of going to war with Israel.” (2013)

    Nasrallah: “The elimination of Israel is not only a Palestinian interest. It is the interest of the entire Muslim world and the entire Arab world.” (2013)

    Hojateleslam Alireza Panahian, the advisor to Office of the Supreme Leader in Universities: “The day will come when the Islamic people in the region will destroy Israel and save the world from this Zionist base.” (2013)

    Hojatoleslam Ali Shirazi, Khamenei’s representative in the Revolutionary Guard: “The Zionist regime will soon be destroyed, and this generation will be witness to its destruction." (2013)

    Khamenei: “This barbaric, wolflike & infanticidal regime of Israel which spares no crime has no cure but to be annihilated.” (2014)

    Hossein Salami, the deputy head of the Revolutionary Guard: "We will chase you [Israelis] house to house and will take revenge for every drop of blood of our martyrs in Palestine, and this is the beginning point of Islamic nations awakening for your defeat." (2014)

    Salami: "Today we are aware of how the Zionist regime is slowly being erased from the world, and indeed, soon, there will be no such thing as the Zionist regime on Planet Earth." (2014)

    Hossein Sheikholeslam, the secretary-general of the Committee for Support for the Palestinian Intifada: "The issue of Israel's destruction is important, no matter the method. We will obviously implement the strategy of the Imam Khomeini and the Leader [Khamenei] on the issue of destroying the Zionists. The region will not be quiet so long as Israel exists in it ..." (2014)

    Mohammad Ali Jafari, the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guard: "The Revolutionary Guards will fight to the end of the Zionist regime ... We will not rest easy until this epitome of vice is totally deleted from the region's geopolitics." (2015)
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    I suppose that "the Zionists" could have made up all those quotes. Is that your position? Or are the Iranians just joking around?
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/w...rests-suspect-khobar-towers-bombing.html?_r=0
    Saudi Arabia Said to Arrest Suspect in 1996 Khobar Towers Bombing ...
    Aug 26, 2015 - In June 1996, a truck bombing killed 19 Americans at the Khobar Towers barracks near Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. Credit U.S. Navy, via ...

    Read on, click on the links and see how Iran was involved in the two bombings

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/22/w...n-argentina-defector-says.html?pagewanted=all
    BUENOS AIRES, July 21&#8212; The Iranian government organized and carried out the bombing of a Jewish community center here eight years ago that killed 85 people and then paid Argentina's president at the time, Carlos Saúl Menem, $10 million to cover it up, a witness in the case has said in sealed testimony.
     
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    Actually, it's a fact that the "Western" media use fake quotes to smear Iran:

    Read the rest here:

    http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025

    Meanwhile, jews are actually murdering Iranian scientists:

    Israel teams with terror group to kill Iran's nuclear scientists, U.S. officials tell NBC News

    http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news...ar-scientists-us-officials-tell-nbc-news?lite

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...iran-nuclear-scientists-report-says-1.411945#!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Mujahedin_of_Iran
     

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