Israel thinking of installing the death penalty for terrorists

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    The arabs would have had an independent state equal in size to Israel

    Are you telling the the arabs are so incompetent that the Jews would have just taken it away from them in time?
     
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    Again, you are treating the arabs like children who could never stand up to or equal the Jews intellectually

    Or like a high school football team playing a professional team

    I fail to see why the arabs could not have used their independence to grow the palestanian state alongside Israel
     
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    Well it's only bloody desert and there's plenty of that for everyone, if they want to make the effort to render it habitable, and it seems that only the Israelis do?
     
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    No law requires the US to take in refugees

    Granting of asylum is up to the individual countries

    If merkel wants to admit a billion muslims to germany that is none of America's business

    And if America chooses to admit no muslim refugees or any refugees that is our right
     
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    You forgot to state that it is also your right to create millions of refugees!!!
     
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    Nobody can "grow and prosper" alongside Israel! Look at all the neighboring countries. Do you see anyone grow? They all got demolished into bits and pieces.
     
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    Yeah that too, if you insist

    But we try to keep it to a minimum
     
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    Israel is not preventing the arab countries from growing

    Their backward muslim culture does that
     
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    Nonsense! It is the culture of greed of their adversaries (USrael) that bombs them back into the stone age, so they wont be a threat to Israel.
     
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    No one is bombing Egypt or Jordan

    And if not for militant arabs in Lebanon and Syria no one would be bombing them either
     
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    Hezbollah is only defending its country, Lebanon. But Israel did kill their PM, Rafik Hariri, in 2005.
    Egypt has been neutered through the Arab Spring, and Jordan is loaded down with Palestinian refugees and now also from Syria. Besides that, they are not militarized enough to dare say a peep.
     
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    Lobbing rockets into Israel is not defending lebannon
     
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    The Palestinians have been farming and using the "desert" for generations, prosperously, before the first Foreign, Zionist Land thief set foot in Palestine.
    Meanwhile, the militant Settlers & Israeli government use what little Palestinian land that is left as a dumping ground for Toxins & sewage rendering the land inhabitable for anyone but Zionist land thieves.

    When the Israelis can't poison crops, they kill fishermen(1)

    This insidious form of slow ethnic cleansing is hardly worth support from the US or anyone else.

    - “DEMONSTRATING THE HARMFUL EFFECTS CAUSED THROUGH THE ILLEGAL ISRAELI SETTLEMENT PRACTICE OF DUMPING WASTEWATER ONTO PALESTINIAN AGRICULTURAL LANDS”
    http://www.arij.org/latest-news/479-...ral-lands.html
    EXCERPT “(*)Israeli settlements are illegally dumping wastewater onto Palestinian villages, farmlands and agricultural lands. This practice has devastating effects on the Palestinian lands, both reducing and preventing any agricultural production, livestock farming and infecting previously safe drinking water. The accumulative effect of these issues has resulted in an economic downturn, increases in disease and health problems, an increase in poverty and often the slow migration of Palestinians to other areas where they have more potential for earning and farming which only further compounds the issue of internal displacement.”CONTINUED


    - “Israel Sprays Farms In Gaza With Poisonous Chemicals (Video)”
    http://yournewswire.com/israel-spray...emicals-video/
    EXCERPT “Israeli pesticide planes sprayed Gaza’s agricultural lands east of Gaza in recent days causing huge damage to the crops in a very short space of time.
    “When I arrived on my farm on Wednesday morning, I was surprised when I saw an Israeli farming plane crossing the borders towards farms inside Gaza,” farmer Ahmed Badawi said. “The plane started to spray unidentified chemicals.”
    Mahmoud Dalloul, another farmer in a different area near the border, said that this was not the first time that the Israeli occupation sprayed poisonous chemicals on their plants.CONTINUED


    (1) “Israel fires at Gaza boats, kills Palestinian fisherman: hospital officials”
    Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/07/us-israel-palestinians-idUSKBN0M30HP20150307#ZWIs3J97 zbCT54DK.99
    EXCERPT “The Israeli navy opened fire on boats off the coast of the Gaza Strip on Saturday, killing one Palestinian fisherman, Gaza hospital officials said.

    Citing security concerns, Israel keeps a naval blockade on Gaza, .....and has designated a six nautical-mile fishing zone off the enclave's coast."CONTINUED
     
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    "arij.org"
    http://www.arij.org/about-arij/administration/administrative-committee-board-of-directors.html

    ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE/ BOARD OF DIRECTORS
    1. Ms. Hind Khoury, President
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    4. Dr. Nabeel 'Edeily, Secretary
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    Dead link at conspiracy website
    https://newspunch.com (aka, yournewswire)
    Love this story in particular:
    Massive ‘UFO’ Lurks Beneath Antarctic Ice, Scientists Claim

    Get some new material Mel.
    You post garbage.
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    Living next to a country which has sworn to annihilate Israel, and tries its damdest to do it every day with HE missiles aimed at schools, hospitals and residential areas, is it any effing wonder Israel is constantly on the defensive? This excerpt from your post . . .

    "EXCERPT “The Israeli navy opened fire on boats off the coast of the Gaza Strip on Saturday, killing one Palestinian fisherman, Gaza hospital officials said."

    So a Gazan source says they were 'fishermen'? Well you'd hardly expect it to say they were (possibly) terrorists and not fishermen would you? But in the circumstances the Israelis had to assume they were terrorists, and sometimes they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong - that's life. :roll:
     
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    Sometimes getting it wrong is a rite of megalomaniacal crusades to create the holy ghost of a pedophile resident as would have never guessed Chief Justice Rehnquist federal perjury of one nation under God with equal justice under law after an immaculate drug trafficking conception prior to being born & for that matter even conceived for IslamoNazi security of a Fourth Reich like those Nazis Kristallnacht synagogue plunderings & ransackings after all of those 24 separate incidents concerning the same 5 items in over 3 1/2 years at a university of thieving US Constitution, Declaration of Independence, old glory, then realized after the 3 1/2 years all 24 had been swapped for donated President presented old glories in business excellence according to a Holocaust survivor, old testament & Israel flags was about as sincere as the Catholic Church assassination of JFK so the cross is higher than old glory just as a Papal entourage of Islam Christiananality pedophiles which baptize eyes by urinations is higher than SCOTUS so the race for space master plan would only be controlled by the Islam Christiananality pedophile mentalities in some Reichquest for yet another master race master plan for business of survival of those fittest fascists, but doubt the Israeli Navy is anything like McHeil's Navy of the US.
     
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    Unfortunately, due to 9/11 all Arabs, Muslims, Freedom Fighters, Opposers to the USA's war on terror, or sometimes just looking like an Arab are labeled "Terrorists". A "Terrorist" is like free game and can be shot at any time for any reason without fear of legal consequences.
    Will there be an independent inquiry as to that fisherman having been a real terrorist threat to Israel and therefore needed to be killed? I'd be interested to learn more about it.
     
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    Sounds just as the Christian Nation lynching enforcement where it doesn't matter if one is born in Washington, D.C. as the churchstate of Islam Christiananality pedophile mentalities has the rite due to the fact that in their super ego minds everyone else killed JFK & not them, so whatever immaculate conceptions of fabricated misnomers in some "man is God" pyramid scheme are higher than one nation under God; as they'll learn ya after creating that pedophile resident President holy ghost to emulate. Leave it to McHeil's Navy to disregard KKK churchstate cops attack on a Navy Hospital playing lynch the one trying to obtain medical care a second time in hours for churchstate cops US Constitution theft & burning.
     
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    The problem is that without being recognisable as the enemy in some way (I repeat 'by wearing a uniform'), the default has to be 'terrorist' unless or until proven otherwise, therefore we're always on the defensive?
     
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    Looks like you couldn't find anything wrong with:

    - “DEMONSTRATING THE HARMFUL EFFECTS CAUSED THROUGH THE ILLEGAL ISRAELI SETTLEMENT PRACTICE OF DUMPING WASTEWATER ONTO PALESTINIAN AGRICULTURAL LANDS”
    http://www.arij.org/latest-news/479-...ral-lands.html
    EXCERPT “(*)Israeli settlements are illegally dumping wastewater onto Palestinian villages, farmlands and agricultural lands. This practice has devastating effects on the Palestinian lands, both reducing and preventing any agricultural production, livestock farming and infecting previously safe drinking water. The accumulative effect of these issues has resulted in an economic downturn, increases in disease and health problems, an increase in poverty and often the slow migration of Palestinians to other areas where they have more potential for earning and farming which only further compounds the issue of internal displacement.”CONTINUED

    Perhaps this link would be more to your liking Re: insidious Zionist Ethnic Cleansing:

    "Israel spraying toxins over Palestinian crops in Gaza"
    The sprayed herbicides by the Israeli army could constitute a real hazard for the population, officials say.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...s-palestinian-crops-gaza-160114063046813.html

    EXCERPT " Khan Younis, Gaza Strip- On January 7, a low-flying agricultural aircraft sprayed herbicides on to Palestinian farmlands along the eastern border, eradicating or damaging up to 162 hectares of crops and farmland along the Israeli border fence.

    "Herbicides are sprayed in high concentrations. Thus, they remain embedded in the soil, and then find their way to the water basin. This constitutes a real hazard for the population," said Anwar Abu Assi, manager of the chemical laboratory at the Ministry of Agriculture."CONTINUED
     
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    I recognize that Israel has many very good people & much to contribute as a nation however these realities are eclipsed by IDF's "Shoot first & ask questions later" de facto "defensive policy"

    Through Israel's relentless expansionism, (Settlements) collective punishment & related crimes it can hardly be said that
    . Instead, Israel is, in reality, always on the Offensive.

    Excusing the shooting of every Palestinian wearing civilian clothes in a society where nearly half of the people support Ethnic Cleansing(1) & more support the death penalty for "terrorists" (i.e. any Palestinian looking "suspicious") exposes the current Zionist regime for what it is, murderous.

    (1) “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html
    EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.
    A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

    The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED
     
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    Latest Blood Libel: Zionist Crop-Killing Chemicals of Doomᵀᴹ
    By Aussie Dave - February 3, 2016
    http://www.israellycool.com/2016/02/03/latest-blood-libel-zionist-crop-killing-chemicals-of-doomᵀᴹ/

    A new blood libel has come to my attention, thanks to pathological Israel hater and ******blogger Richard Silverstein.
    Tikun Olam @richards1052
    Top story: Israel Continues to Spray Crop-killing Chemicals on Gaza Farmlands -… http://www.imemc.org/article/74807 , see more http://tweetedtimes.com/richards1052?s=tnp …
    12:48 AM - Feb 3, 2016

    This is what the article to which he links claims:

    "Israel Continues to Spray Crop-killing Chemicals on Gaza Farmlands"

    Israeli planes have reportedly sprayed chemical substances on farmlands across the besieged Gaza Strip, killing off the crops in the already impoverished Palestinian territory.
    Several farmers informed that Israeli planes had sprayed their lands with pesticides, in the area between (Kissufim, and Srij) east of al-Qarara village, northeast of Khan Younis, according to Al Ray correspondence.
    Witnesses pointed out that the Israeli occupation aircraft were spraying pesticides inside the border fence, and were hovering on low level . The continuing Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip is putting the lives of people at risk, taking a heavy toll on the enclave’s agriculture sector.

    Farmers are struggling to meet growing demands of 1.8 million Gazans... They face many challenges due to shortages in farming equipment and more importantly, approved pesticides.

    Due to the decline in production, and Israel’s ban on the entry of basic commodities Gazan farmers have resorted to the use of Banned chemical substances to maximize crop yield. This poses a serious health hazard to both farmers and their consumers.

    Meanwhile, the United Nations has expressed concerns over the excessive use of toxic pesticides by Gaza farmers.

    Many medical experts in Gaza are worried about a rise in the number of registered Gazan cancer patients, especially in the agricultural areas.

    They warn that children are more susceptible to diseases, such as leukemia, than adults in such regions.....
    Let me first point out that self-professed “journalist” Silverstein has not investigated the veracity of claims. He did not go and interview people on the ground – from both the palestinian and Israeli sides – or see what happened for himself. He has merely accepted as fact the IMEMC’s hatchet job. As I have shown in the past, the IMEMC posts blatant falsehoods and blood libels against Israel. Here are just a few examples.

    So right off the bat, your spidey senses need to be tingling, asking why Silverstein would retweet this. The answer is simple: he hates Israel with a passion, and cares not for the truth, but for our destruction.
    Now let’s get to the critical thinking section of this post and look at the IMEMC’s claims.

    The main claim is that Israel is spraying pesticides to kill off palestinian crops. Israel does clearly spray pesticides – on all crops. And there is a committee looking into it:

    The Knesset Labor, Welfare and Health Committee on Tuesday approved changes in regulations that would reduce the maximum permitted levels of pesticide residue in food crops.

    The Israel Union for Environmental Defense (Adam Teva V’Din) says it welcomes the changes, but called on the committee to follow the lead of European countries and the United States in banning outright the use of pesticides that are hazardous to health.

    After examining the issue of residual levels of pesticides for a number of years, an interministerial committee decided to update the regulations regarding the maximum levels of 500 pesticides in edible crops and to ban, completely or almost completely, the use of 45 pesticides​
    ......
    So Israel clearly uses pesticides. What might be happening is Israel spraying all crops with the same pesticides – whether on the Israeli or palestinian side. And outlets like IMEMC are inventing a blood libel that they are designed to kill off the palestinian crops (rather than save the crops, which is the actual role of pesticides).

    If Israel was engaged in such nefarious palestinian crop-killing activities, I doubt we would have a committee looking into our use of pesticides! Remember, we have a vibrant democracy with Arab political parties and much discussion.If Israel was indeed committing such crimes, it would surely have come to the attention of the Arab members of the Knesset who would be objecting to them and calling for heads to roll. But this is not happening.

    Now also look at the next part of the report.

    "Due to the decline in production and Israel’s ban on the entry of basic commodities, Gazan farmers have resorted to the use of banned chemical substances to maximize crop yield. This poses a serious health hazard to both farmers and their consumers.

    Meanwhile, the United Nations has expressed concerns over the excessive use of toxic pesticides by Gaza farmers."
    Here, IMEMC is actually admitting that palestinian farmers are using dangerous chemicals on crops, harmful to people’s health. Of course, they are somehow trying to blame it on Israel, but if true, this is the crime here, not some fabricated claim about Zionist Crop-Killing Chemicals of Death.TM

    So once again what we have here is a blood libel against Israel, plain and simple.

    And you needn’t even be the cream of the crop to see it.
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    As opposed to your 100% Arabist/Islamist/Conspiracy Trolls.
    Any piece of anti-semitica from any website.. Grau's on it.
    He's used every infamous conspiracy website on the internet.

    He just copies them onto his browser ("EXCERPT") and posts them for years.
    Expired links and conspiracy garbage, no problem.
    The more inflammatory/Blood-libelous the headline, the better. ("Genotoxic!"/"Carcinogenic!"/Baby-Killers"!/ "Poison"!)
    That's Grau's only game. Sneak in low-brau, antisemitic blood libels.

    Grau posts the internet's least credible trash. Stormfronters have much better sources, but Grau wants to sneak them onto
    civilized board.
    That's his sick game. Stealthing em into any 'Israel' string. (not on topic here either)
    He usually doesn't try starting strings with these knowingly bogus links (they'd be moved), but he does try them under the radar in any 'Israel' headline topic.

    Some here surprisingly accepting/liking, as this board permits overt antisemitica. Which should be allowed if backed by credible sources only. Otherwise the vast majority of Grau's posts should be put in the Zio-Conspiracy section instead.
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    Here is a Kleenex,
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    and now run along... I wont tell your boss you are no match for Mr. Grau!;-)
     
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