I cannot edit the post #100 any more, but all quotes except the first quote refer to HBendor, not to Art_Allm. Sorry for setting the wrong tags.
You are not worth my time sir, suffice to say the above shows exactly the limit of your knowledge as far as your defamation is concerned. A country is recognized according to its history, archeology and the people reigning supreme in it. The Arabs are squats, they have not as yet formed any archeological artifact to speak of. Here is an article on one piece of artifact that would illustrate and substantiate our attachment to our land and the pain incurred to decipher it... Press Release January 23, 2014 The Oldest Hebrew Inscription from Jerusalem has been deciphered [For photo http://bit.ly/1jGdgTi ] Professor Gershon Galil, from the Department of Biblical Studies and Jewish History, University of Haifa, in Israel, who has deciphered the inscription, pointed out that it indicates writing abilities as well as the existence of an administration which collects taxes, prepare storage places and jars, and takes care of the workers in Jerusalem, as early as the second half of the 10th century BC, probably in the reign of King Solomon. Professor Gershon Galil, from the Department of Biblical Studies and Jewish History at the University of Haifa, deciphered the oldest Hebrew inscription found in Jerusalem. The inscription was unearthed during the 2012 excavations in Jerusalem, ca. 80m south of the southern wall of the Temple Mount, by Dr. Eilat Mazar and her team, during an archaeological excavation on behalf of the Institute of Archaeology of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. The new inscription was incised under the rim of a large pithos and reads, from right to left, as follows: [ ]m [yy]n ḫlq m[ ], namely: "[in the year], wine of inferior quality, (send) from GN" (see Figure below). The inscription is divided into three categories: (a) a date formula; (b) classification of the wine; and (c) provenance. Prof. Galil said that the form yyn (wine) indicates that the language used in this inscription is Hebrew, written in the southern dialect: in Ugaritic, Old Canaanite, Phoenician, Ammonite, and even in Israelite Hebrew (attested in the Samaria Ostraca) wine was always written with only one yod; But in (southern) Hebrew the form is always yyn (Epigraphic Hebrew [Lachish, Arad and more], Biblical Hebrew [without any exception], Ben Sira, Qumran, and even in the Rabbinic sources). Prof. Galil published his findings in the Strata Bulletin of the Anglo-Israel Archaeological Society. "The new inscription is written in the late Cannanite script, in (southern) Hebrew, and should be dated to the second half of the 10th century BC. It is therefore the oldest Hebrew inscription ever found in Jerusalem, and it is about two hundred and fifty years older than other inscriptions known from Jerusalem. In those days King Solomon completed his monumental building projects in Jerusalem, including the Temple and the palace. Solomon was the king who inhabited the Ophel and he was the one who built the wall of Jerusalem which united its three main quarters: the Temple Mount, the Ophel and the city of David", said Prof. Galil. Prof. Galil also said that the new inscription indicates that large quantities of inferior wine were used in Jerusalem: "This cheap wine was not served on Solomon's table, nor used in the Temple. So it is reasonable to suppose that it was served to the hard workers that were engaged in the large scale building projects in Jerusalem, and maybe also to the soldiers who served there. The logistics needed were probably concentrated in the Ophel. Inferior wine was also served to the Cypriot mercenaries in Arad, and in later periods to workers and soldiers in the Hellenistic and Roman periods". The inscription also teaches us that there were scribes in Jerusalem who were able to write texts as early as the second half of the 10th century BC. The registration of the wine and its storage indicate the existence of an administration which collected taxes, prepared storage places and jars, and took care of the workers in Jerusalem, fed them and served them water and even inferior wine. "Scribes that were able to write administrative texts are also able to compose literary and historiographical texts (as clearly demonstrated recently by the Qeiyafa inscription). This fact is of major importance for reconstructing the process of the crystallization of the Bible, and even more for the understanding of the History of Israel and Jerusalem in Biblical times", summarized Prof. Galil. ________________________________________ IMRA - Independent Media Review and Analysis Website: www.imra.org.il
Jawohl!!! hopefully one day, some brave Austrian corporal will come around and save us from der evil Judische schmutz.
Who cares whether there was no Palestinian State. The fact is that there were people living there. Then these people were kicked out because some other people came and said THIS IS MA LAND BECAUSE WE WERE HERE FIRST THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
You will have to ask the guy who used a Holocaust denial site as proof of something which is occurring today that.
I would urge you <kindly> not to teach Papa how to make babies!!!! The Jews of Europe are not crazy they have engendered the best Scientists, Doctors, Musicians and inventors... I am still wondering what the Muslims are doing in Europe besides stealing, raping blondes and bee on the dole. They have no right to be there in the first place, we were forced to be absent and things deteriorated not from our volition. In other words if I go on an <around the world cruise> I am not entitled to return back to my place of residence because a squat has taken hold of it? Speaking of <moronics> please reevaluate the <scatology> printed above by someone ensconced in all places <GERMANY> This is clang, and I will not waste my time responding to unadulterated smelly garbage. This is Israel from time immemorial not the Christian's, the Greek's, the Babylonian's, the Spanish's and the rest of the squats pretending to be indigenous. The so called Palestinians are the biggest hoax perpetuated on the free world. BTW why we returned home is because we are the <indigenous people of that Land,> we are the majority <TODAY,> and the squats can come and claim it by fighting us... It will be really a killing field!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples The True Identity of the So-called Palestinians In this essay I would like to present the true origin and identity of the Arab people commonly known as "Palestinians", and the widespread myths surrounding them. This research is intended to be completely neutral and objective, based on historic and archaeological evidences as well as other documents, including Arab sources, and quoting statements by authoritative Islamic personalities. There are some modern myths -or more exactly, lies- that we can hear everyday through the mass-media as if they were true, of course, hiding the actual truth. For example, whenever the Temple Mount or Jerusalem are mentioned, it is usually remarked that is "the third holy place for muslims", but why it is never said that is the FIRST Holy Place for Jews? It sounds like an utterly biased information! In order to make this essay better comprehensible, it will be presented in two units: ·1) Myths and facts concerning the origin and identity of the so-called Palestinians; ·2) Myths and facts regarding Jerusalem and the Land of Israel. I - Origin and identity of the so-called Palestinians Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against: “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?” “We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”. “When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”. This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer. Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history. They have their own Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines. Let us consider both of them before going on with the Palestinian issue. The Canaanites: The Canaanites are historically acknowledged as the first inhabitants of the Land of Israel, before the Hebrews settled there. Indeed, the correct geographic name of the Land of Israel is Canaan, not "Palestine" (a Roman invention, as we will see later). They were composed by different tribes, that may be distinguished in two main groups: the Northern or Coastland Canaanites and the Southern or Mountain Canaanites. ·The Northern Canaanites settled along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea from the southeastern side of the Gulf of Iskenderun to the proximities of the Gulf of Hayfa. Their main cities were Tzur, Tzidon, Gebal (Byblos), Arvad, Ugarit, and are better known in history by their Greek name Phoenicians, but they called themselves "Kana'ana" or "Kinachnu". They did not found any unified kingdom but were organized in self-ruled cities, and were not a warlike people but rather skilful traders, seafarers and builders. Their language was adopted from their Semitic neighbours, the Arameans, and was closely related to Hebrew (not to Arabic!). Phoenicians and Israelites did not need interpreters to understand each other. They followed the same destiny of ancient Israel and fell under Assyrian rule, then Babylonian, Persian, Macedonian, Seleucian and Roman. Throughout their history the Phoenicians intermarried with different peoples that dwelled in their land, mainly Greeks and Armenians. During the Islamic expansion they were Arabized, yet, never completely assimilated, and their present-day state is Lebanon, erroneously regarded as an "Arab" country, a label that the Lebanese people reject. Unlike the Arab states, Lebanon has a western democratic-style official name, "Lebanese Republic", without the essential adjective "Arab" that is required in the denominations of every Arab state. The only mention of the term Arabic in the Lebanese constitution refers to the official language of the state, which does not mean that the Lebanese people are Arabs in the same way as the official language of the United States is English but this does not qualify the Americans as British. The so-called Palestinians are not Lebanese (although some of them came from Syrian-occupied Lebanon), therefore they are not Phoenicians (Northern Canaanites). Actually, in Lebanon they are "refugees" and are not identified with the local people. ·The Southern Canaanites dwelled in the mountain region from the Golan southwards, on both sides of the Yarden and along the Mediterranean coast from the Gulf of Hayfa to Yafo, that is the Biblical Canaan. They were composed by various tribes of different stocks: besides the proper Canaanites (Phoenicians), there were Amorites, Hittites and Hurrian peoples like the Yevusites, Hivvites and Horites, all of them assimilated into the Aramean-Canaanite context. They never constituted an unified, organized state but kept within the tribal alliance system. When the first Hebrews arrived in Canaan they shared the land but did not intermarry, as it was an interdiction for Avraham's family to marry the Canaanites. Nevertheless, eleven of the twelve sons of Yakov married Canaanite women (the other son married an Egyptian), and since then, the Tribes of Israel began to mix with the local inhabitants. After the Exodus, when the Israelites conquered the Land, there were some wars between them and the Canaanites throughout the period of the Sofetim (Judges), and were definitively subdued by King David. By that time, most Canaanites were married to Israelites, others voluntarily accepted Torah becoming Israelites, others joined up in the Israelite or Judahite army. Actually, the Canaanites are seldom mentioned during the Kings' period, usually in reference to their heathen customs introduced among the Israelites, but no longer as a distinguishable people, because they were indeed assimilated into the Israelite nation. When the Assyrians overran the Kingdom of Israel, they did not leave any Canaanite aside, as they had all become Israelites by that time. The same happened when the Babylonians overthrew the Kingdom of Judah. Therefore, the only people that can trace back a lineage to the ancient Canaanites are the Jews, not the Palestinians, as Canaanites did not exist any longer after the 8th century b.c.e. and they were not annihilated but assimilated into the Jewish people. Conclusion: the Palestinians cannot claim any descent from the ancient Canaanites - if so, why not to pretend also the Syrian "occupied territories", namely, Lebanon? Why do they not speak the language of the ancient Canaanites, that was Hebrew? Because they are NOT Canaanites at all! The Philistines: It is from the term "Philistines" that the name "Palestinians" has been taken. Actually, the ancient Philistines and modern Palestinians have something in common: both are invaders from other lands! That is precisely the meaning of their name, that is not an ethnic denomination but an adjective applied to them: Peleshet, from the verb "pelesh", "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Tzekelesh, Shardana, Akhaiusha, Danauna, Tzakara, Masa or Meshuesh, Uashesh, Teresh or Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Lukka and Labu. The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Peleshtim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders). They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramose III in the 12th century b.c.e. The Philistines were organized in city-states, being the most important the Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - not the whole Judah, they never reached Hevron, Jerusalem or Yericho! Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people, but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance, the best warriors among them were chosen as David's bodyguard. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon II of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared definitively from history. They are no longer mentioned since the return of the Jewish exiles from Babylon. Conclusion: there is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage, yet, if Palestinians insist, they have to recognize themselves as invaders in Israel, and then they must ask Greece to return them back the Isle of Crete! The Philistines are extinct and claims to alleged links with them are utterly false as they are historically impossible to establish. In any case, claiming a Philistine heritage is idle because it cannot legitimate any land in which they were foreign occupants and not native dwellers. Philistines were not Arabs, and the only feature in common between both peoples is that in Israel they should be regarded as invaders, Philistines from the sea and Arabs from the wilderness. They do not want Jerusalem because it is their city, which is not and never has been, they simply want to take her from the Jews, to whom she has belonged for three thousand years. The Philistines wanted to take from Israelites the Holy Ark of the Covenant, modern so-called Palestinians want to take from them the Holy City of the Covenant. The Palestinians: No, they are not any ancient people, but claim to be. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967 c.e. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel, and would ask excuses to Israel for having stolen the Ark of the Covenant.
Godwin ++ The hasbara - crowd keeps on acting according to their manual. They play the "Nazi-Card", they refuse to address the arguments of their opponents, they do not attack the message, they just attack the messenger with their infantile ad- hominem, deflecting any discussion to a discussion about "them Nazis". So I have to remind the Hasbaratniks: The topic of this thread is not the Third Reich or "them Nazis", and not my personality. Ad-Hominem attacks and deliberate off-topics are violations of forum rules. The topic of this discussion is what happens TODAY, it is about what TODAY Zionists do to hide their crimes against the Palestinians.
That were assimilated Jews, they were not Jews any more, most of them converted to Christianity of were atheists. Only idiots who believe in the existence of a "Jewish race" refer to Christians or Atheists who became scientists as to "Jews". They became Europeans, they adapted the European culture and rejected their own religion and own culture and tradition, and after that they were able to contribute to the European civilization... and that happened only two centuries ago. Before that time Jews were the most backward group in Europe that rejected the European culture, because their religious leaders forced them to do that. Emancipated Jews had to rely on the help of Europeans to escape from the yoke of the Jewish cabal. Israel Shahak put it this way: In a nutshell: Some Europeans of Jewish backgroupd became prominent scientists not because of their ansestry, but because they rejected their Jewishness and assimilated, speak they ceased to be Jews in the proper sense of this word. Why do Zionists on the one hand whine if somebody makes blank statements about Jews, immediately accusing their opponents of racism, but on the other hand these guys rutinely make racist blanket statements about Germans, Muslims or Arabs. Do you really believe that Zionists can get away with their blanket hatred against non-Jews, and deserve to be loved despite their hatred and racism? What are you talking about? Do you not see that it is moronic to talk about being forced to be absent for 2000 years? Any other group of people who would claim some land after 2000 years of absence because of some religious legend would be immediately put into the loony bin. But Zionists can get away with this lunacy. Even according to Jewish fairy tales, ancient Hebrew committed a genocide against the native Palestinians. The history of the fairy tale Israel begins with a big crime, with the slaughter of babies and the partial annihilation of the native population. So if Jews believe that they can claim something back after 2000 years because they presumably stem from the Hebrews, then the descendants of people who were partially genocided by the Hebrews have also the right to claim their land back, because they lived their first and were conquered by backward nomads, who called themselves Hebrews. You cannot eat your cake and have it, too! If you believe that the wheel of history can be turned backwards, so why not turn it till the time before Hebrews conquered Palestine? There is no reason why Zionists should have more rights to this land than the native population that stems from the Canaaanites. These native people are the real owners of this land, and they do not care about Jewish mythology according to which the tribal God of Hebrew permitted them to commit a genocide against the native Palestinians and steal their land. Why should sane non-Jew care about the Jewish religious mythology and the supposed special right of Jews to Palestine? Sorry, but this is an anachronism and an outdated backward stone-age moral that cannot be accepted in the 21st century. That is what Hasbarantiks repeat in all forums, but who cares? Palestinians are a real naturally born ethnic group with deep historical roots in Palestine, they stem from the pre-Hebrew population of Palestine, and they have absorbed parts of Hebrews and other ethnic groups that later controlled this territory. BTW, why do Zionists on the one hand constantly whine about "bad guys" who presumably deny them the right to exist as an apartheid state, but on the other hand the same Zionists deny Palestinians their basic right to exist, just pretending that Palestinians do not exist? No Zionist can prove that his ancestors really lived in Palestine 2000 years ago. It is moronic to talk about returning home after 2000 years EVEN IF YOU CAN PROVE THAT YOUR ANCESTORS REALLY LIVED THERE, because the international law rejects such practices. There is no right to return to some land after 2000 years and expell people who lived there forever. Even if we assume that Zionists really stem from Hebrews (which is total BS): No people is called an "indigenous people" after 2000 years of living in some other places. According to your crazy logic Europeans can claim South Africa and call themselves indigenous Africans, because the ancestors of Europeans came from Africa about 40 000 years ago. Sorry, but your argumentation is just laughable! Europeans in South Africa who dared to call themselves "indigenous Africans" would be immediately put into the loony bin, but crazy white European Zionists who call themselves "indigenous Palestinians" can still get away with their lunacy, because they control the western media and political establishment, and that is disgusting!
more disugusting anti-Semitism from you, Mein Herr. are you still fighting "der heilege krieg gegen die Juden"?
The people who lived their were Bedouin tribes.. they came from Arab countries around the area. Palestinians are the mijority in Jordan, they should build a nice country over their. It's theirs ! That is the ONLY solution to that area.
THat's The logic of a thief. European Jews , apart from those who actually bought + paid for a few farms , during the time of Palestine Mandate , they have no legitimate right to land ownership / to displace/dispossess non-Jewish in PALESTINE. Zionist invaders are thieves . ------
UNGA non-binding Re. 181 - was a PROPOSAL subject to further negotiation by UN Envoy Count Bernadotte , who the Jews promptly murdered when they learnt they weren't getting as large a slice of Palestine as first proposed. Ron - we've been over this BS many times before . No matter how many times you repeat the falsified Zionist version , it'll always be dismissed as crap by those who knows the details or venture to check the facts .
meanwhile, the Palestinians constantly reference UN Res 181 as the basis for their state, and have even accepted the resolution. funny when facts bite you in the ass, ay Marlowe?
Why do Semite-Haters who despise the native Semites of Palestine constantly accuse their opponents of Anti-Semitism?
The UN did not have any right to divide Palestine. The Partition was only a proposal of the UN, and Arabs rejected this proposal. Well, proposals can be accepted, and they can be rejected, that is the nature of proposals. Without the agreement of Palestinians the division of Palestine had no legal foundation, it was totally illegal! But Zionists just ignored the fact that the proposal of the UN was rejected, and they illegally started their land robbery. The mass murderer Stalin was the first leader that recognised Israel as a state, and that speaks volumes. The foundation of Israel was based on blood and crimes, many prominent Zionists were members of terrorist groups that had a lot of blood on their hands. The creation of Israel was made possible due to the support of mass murderers, like Stalin, and this is very symbolic.
Exactly! Everybody can do their own research, find the facts and make their own conclusion. It is obvious that the time works against the Zionists, their silly hasbara does not convince any sane person any more. And just calling names and repeating a retarded BS about Zionists returning to their homeland and kicking out the supposed squatters (speak the native Semites who lived there for more than 2000 years) is a lousy and stupid tactic that makes the Zionists look like madmen. No sane person can accept this anachronistic BS about the alleged special "god given" rights to ethnic cleansing and land robbery, and that is the reason why more and more people wake up from their slumber and ask their governments questions that should have been asked many, many years ago.
ROLFMAO You must be jesting... Israel was never <CREATED> for it was <RECONSTITUTED> go read the preamble of the Mandate January 2014 Breaking News Is Israel and Saudi Arabia preparing Click and listen, maybe you will learn something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twaD8Stv1t0#t=181
Your ignorance about the basics of international law is shocking! UN has to stick in their decisions to the international law, and this international law is the Geneva Convention that prohibits ethnic cleansing, population transfer and the annexation of land. UN is just an instrument that has to ensure the international law, speak the Geneva Conventions. That is the only function of the UN. Annexation of land is illegal, and that is the reason why UNO could never order any land annexation and any ethnic cleansing. That is the reason why UNO had to be polite and just propose to Palestinians that they give their best land to "wanna-be" Semites who intended to migrate to Palestine. But Palestinians rejected this proposal, and after that UNO had to guarantee that the rights of Palestinians will be preserved, speak UNO was obliged to stop the Zionists aggression, but this failed because UNO was subverted by Zionists. Well, use your head and think. If UN had the authority to demand something from Palestinians, well, then they would have done it. But they could only politely ask Palestinians to give away their land to potential migrants, and it was obvious that Palestinians would reject this shameless proposal. BTW, what would be your reaction, if some crazy guy came to your property and asked you to give him 50% of your property, because his supposed ancestors lived in your place ... 2000 years ago? Would you give away your property? No, of course not! Even if this crazy guy would have bribed the sheriff and the local authority of your town, and the local authority would beg you to give 50% of your property to this crazy guy, you would refuse to do this, and it would be understandable. And if this crazy guy tried to take away 50% of your property by force, then the sheriff and local authority would be obliged to stop this crazy guy from violating the law, and the criminal would be put into jail. Well, that did not happened in Palestine because the World Sheriff (speak the UN) was bribed by the Zionists. That is in a nutshell what happened in 1947-1948 in Palestine.
If any crazy guy tried to "reconstruct" his supposed property with some crazy claims about supposed ownership that presumably existed 2000 years ago (and take away the property of a person whose ancestors lived in his place for more than 2000 years), then he would be immediately put into jail or into the loony bin. But a crazy guy who calls himself "Zionist" can get away with this racist BS. The double standard is just amazing!
I am turning the table on you friend... Apparently you must be Sancho Panza fighting windmills... The squats are recent inhabitants of the <Land of Israel> if you think differently... <yes think differently> you must have knowledge, proof to base your knowledge on and not shoot from the hip. I have written on that subject many times before in school/college and I even wrote a paper on the subject matter. Before I go into details, let me introduce you to Yashiko Sagamori who has been recognized internationally... and would scuttle your 2000 year old phantom statehood of Palestine when the name Palestinian was coined by Arafat in 1964... WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? ~By Yashiko Sagamori. November 25, 2002 If you are so sure that “Palestine, the country, goes back through most of recorded history”, I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of “Palestine”: 1. When was it founded and by whom? 2. What were its borders? 3. What was its capital? 4. What were its major cities? 5. What constituted the basis of its economy? 6. What was its form of government? 7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat? 8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation? 9. What was the language of the country of Palestine? 10. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine? 11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and try and find the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, British pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date. 12. Have the Palestinians left any artifacts behind? 13. Do you know of a library where one could find a work of Palestinian literature produced before 1967? 14. And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur? If you are lamenting the “low sinking” of “a once proud” nation, then please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of? And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over – or thrown out of – the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat by Israel in the 1967 Six Day War? I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day “Palestinians” to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won’t work here. The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal through military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it “the Palestinian people” and installed it in Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the “West Bank” and Gaza, respectively, in the aftermath of the 1967 war? The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less of a claim to nationhood than the American Indian tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them. The so-called “Palestinians” have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel. In my book that is not sufficient to consider them a “nation” — or anything else — except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled. In fact, there is only one way to achieve piece in the Middle East. Arab countries must acknowledge and accept their defeat in their war against Israel and, as the losing side, should pay Israel reparations for the more than 50 years of devastation they have visited upon it. The most appropriate form of such reparations would be the removal of their terrorist organization from the land of Israel and acceptance of Israel’s ancient sovereignty over Gaza, Judea, and Samaria. That will mark the end of the Palestinian people. What are you saying again was its beginning? Yashiko Sagamori is a New York-based Information Technology consultant
I see no facts from you however what is " Funny" is how you fail noticing the fact that Palestinians have not, nor intend to murder a UN envoy, as Zionists terrorist did when they murdered Count Bernadotte. ....
no, they just murdered hundreds of innocent Hasidic Jews in Hebron in 1929. and they killed Robert F Kennedy.
