Israeli author; " Israel may be most racist State in the developed world "

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by moon, Jun 26, 2012.

  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83

    OK, let's see the neozionist character assassins have a crack at this man.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_Michael

    Fair enough, he has added the qualifier ' developed '- but that's an arbitrary term . So, considering all the States which I consider myself to be ' developed ', he is right. It isn't a matter of ' maybe ' though. There is no other State in the developed world which exhibits racism as Israel does.
    In 1975, the United Nations general Assembly declared Zionism to be a racist doctrine. It took decades for the US of AIPAC to have that Resolution quashed- the only time in the history of the UN that countries have reversed their vote under US pressures. It's time for another vote . Israel's racism is a stain on the UN.
     
  2. 14.64gb

    14.64gb New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    334
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Isn't it good that Israel can be tolerant of its detractors. However he unlike some people does not call for the destruction of Israel but more a peaceful resolution of the hostilities.
     
  3. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Those at the receiving end of Zionists Israeli racism has been protesting against it since the founding of that entity . No matter how may Israel intellectuals draw attention to it> I doubt it'll make a difference to those with their heads so deeply stuck where the sun dont shine . There'll continue believing Israel is a democratic state .
    =====

    A history professor at Tel Aviv University wrote this in 2010 .

    A Jewish state or an Israeli democracy?

    Benjamin Netanyahu is unsure of his identity: His insecurity is behind his pointless demand for Palestinian recognition of Israel as uniquely Jewish.

    One can understand the prime minister: A man so little observant of the Jewish religious tradition is unsure of his Jewish identity, hence his insecurity about the identity of his state - and the need to seek validation from our neighbors.


    There's far too little criticism in Israel of this latest whim, which until recently was absent from Israeli diplomacy. For years, Israel struggled to be recognized by the Arab world. But in March 2002, when the Arab League and the Muslim world took up the Saudi initiative to recognize Israel within its 1967 borders, a new threat appeared: peace, which can fragment the Jewish character of the state from within, and rightfully so.

    There's a wall-to-wall consensus, from Yisrael Beiteinu to Meretz, from enlightened journalists to learned professors, on Israel's definition as a Jewish state. But this definition strikingly resembles the definition of Iran as an Islamic republic or the United States as a Christian country. True, some American evangelists believe that the United States' Christian character is at risk and seek to cement it in legislation. But the United States, like the rest of the enlightened world, still sees itself as belonging to all its citizens, regardless of religion and creed.

    Most Israelis would respond to this by saying Judaism and Jewishness represent not a religion but a people, so Israel must belong not to all its citizens but to the Jews of the world, who, as we know, prefer not to live here.
    read more :


    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/a-jewish-state-or-an-israeli-democracy-1.315725



    ....
     
  4. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    3,984
    Likes Received:
    551
    Trophy Points:
    113
    An interview with this guy of how he came to Israel:
    As you can see, a Jew refugee from Iraq that had no place else to go but Israel.
    He made a life in Israel and does not claim "right of return" to Iraq, nor was a UN organization dedicated to provide for him, his children and his grandchildren like the Palestinians.
    He just planted his roots in the only country welcomed him and made a living.

    This UNRWA organization spend on "palestinian refugees" almost 1.5B$ a year. This is a big organization set by the Palestinians to milk the west for money for the last 70 years.
    Does the "refugees" benefit from it ?
    No, they live in the same old (*)(*)(*)(*)y places, get no education, and make 0$ for a living.
     
  5. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0

    You're confusing arrogance with tolerance . Jews might tolerate Palestinians only as long as they're prepared to remain subserviant to Jews. .
    .

    People more often as not call for the destruction of their enemies. Did our parents not call for the destruction of Nazi Germany , communist USSR , etc.etc . Its not destruction that's need , its REGIME CHANGE - replaced with a true democracy where Jew + non-Jew are equals and Palestinians legitimate rights are recognised.


    ....

    ....
     
  6. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0
    May I remind you that , first of all, if it wasnt for Zionist ethnic cleansing - of non-Jews from Palestine - the chances are that he + all other Iraqi/Arab-Jews , would have remained in Iraq living alongside their neighbours as they've for centuries before the ZIONISTs arrived in Palestine.

    To every action there's a reaction.


    .....
     
  7. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Did you know that Palestinians have a very high rate of Phds?
     
  8. Big George

    Big George Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2009
    Messages:
    929
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It stands to reason that, when you can't think of anything legitimate to scream about, you scream about racism.

    Oddly enough, Israelis and Palestinians are of the same race of people. Go figure.
     
  9. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Contary to Zionist BS - , Some are . many are NOT.

    Nevertheless, theere's overwhelming evidence that non-Jews are second class citizens + discriminated against in Israel by racists Jewish supremists.

    ..
     
  10. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2011
    Messages:
    14,163
    Likes Received:
    730
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "discriminated against in Israel by racists Jewish supremists." - Cant argue with that, racist ppl do discriminate, it their job.....worldwide y'know...

    "theere's overwhelming evidence that non-Jews are second class citizens" - That must come from the authorities, laws etc', i'd like to go over the evidence please.
     
  11. Borat

    Borat Banned

    Joined:
    May 18, 2011
    Messages:
    23,909
    Likes Received:
    9,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Here is one of the talkback posts that pretty much says it all:

     
  12. Borat

    Borat Banned

    Joined:
    May 18, 2011
    Messages:
    23,909
    Likes Received:
    9,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just a few words about the author - an obscure unknown author that are a dime a dozen, he is a former communist, a supporter of the Soviet Union...The irony is that he lived all his life in Israel so he has absolutely no way to compare 'racism' in Israel with racism anywhere else in the developed world. That obviously does not stop him. People unfortunately don't change, he was a Stalin's useful idiot when he was young, he is a useful idiot to anti-Israel islamofascists now that he is senile.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_Michael
     
    daddyofall and (deleted member) like this.
  13. Mandrake

    Mandrake New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    3,063
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm pretty sure Japan is far more racist than Israel. Nobody except Japanese are humans.

    Have you ever wondered why there are NO muslims in Japan?
     
  14. Big George

    Big George Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2009
    Messages:
    929
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So if you're discriminating against people of your own race, are you still a racist?
     
  15. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2011
    Messages:
    8,759
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    63
    He was an idealist when young and honest when older? Good man.
     
  16. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,345
    Likes Received:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Unconditionally hating a group of people because of their identity is racist, regardless of their ancestry, culture, religion or background. It's the reasons for the hatred that makes racism what it is, not the nature of those being hated. One is racist because one hates others in a group because of who they are.
     
  17. gchamblee

    gchamblee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2010
    Messages:
    1,377
    Likes Received:
    39
    Trophy Points:
    48
    this seems more like an opinion article than a world event. but i suppose he gets a better audience by posting it here and after all that is what this is all about, exposure.
     
  18. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,345
    Likes Received:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This might have been true if Israel had recognized and accepted the nation of Palestine decades ago. Unfortunately, however, Israel chose instead to encourage its supporters to be or lean towards being anti-Semite and thus now we are talking about the result of such.

    Israeli racism is embedded in daily politics of every state body

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/israeli-racism-is-embedded-in-

    Racism against Arabs in Israel has also been claimed in personal attitudes, the media, education, immigration rights, housing, and social life
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel

    Peres calls for stop to racism and incitement
    www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=272168


    To claim that Israel is not being strongly burdened with its own flavor of anti-Semitism, is claiming incorrectly for the purpose of denial or defense of such.
     
  19. gchamblee

    gchamblee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2010
    Messages:
    1,377
    Likes Received:
    39
    Trophy Points:
    48
    actually i didnt disagree with the article. i was simply stating that if opinion is now world news i have several new threads id like to start but i have a feeling they would get deleted for being opinions and not world news.
     
  20. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2011
    Messages:
    14,163
    Likes Received:
    730
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Palestinians themselves didn't recognize the nation of Palestine decades ago but nice headline...., they saw themselves as Jordanian and Egyptian citizens and so did Israel.

    If someone could simply push a button and solve this whole mess it would been done a long time ago, it didn't happen in the 90's and that's something I never heard any anti-Israel member talk about here, its much easier to say Israel can just give the Palestinians a country but chooses not to than facing that many of the Palestinians themselves - perhaps even a majority - don't want a separate country, and if Israel makes a deal with one half and draws back than the other -non too happy half - will continue to "resist" only on much better grounds, so if one is true with himself he knows there are no magic tricks here.
     
  21. Chamelon

    Chamelon New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2012
    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    0
  22. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Not true , , during Ottoman times and later during the Mandate , before the creation of the Zionist state of Israel , all resident . including Sefardim/Mizrahim , was classified as Palestinian - Falastin . The Majority population throughout that region was NON_JEWISH for over a thousand years :

    The precursor to modern Jordan was founded in 1921 as the Hashemite Emirate, and it was recognized by the League of Nations as a state under the British mandate in 1922 known as The Emirate of Transjordan. In 1946, Jordan became an independent sovereign state officially known as the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan.


    Palestinian are NOT and have never been Egyptians or Jordanians , That BS is just another Zionist lie in order to deny Palestinian l;egitimate rights to land which Zionists Jews stole.



    ....
     
  23. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    13,345
    Likes Received:
    64
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Decades ago, Israelis saw themselves as Germans, Russians or Poles, Italians saw themselves as Romans or Venecians, Pinoys were Americans, Cubans were Spanish, Serbs were Jugos, Greeks were Macedonians..... I could go on and on and on, but you can see that your argument has no meaning other than nothing of any relevance for anything. Nationalism 100 years ago had a much different meaning from today.

    Israel has tried everything except to respect and accept Palestinians, treating them as equal who have the right to live in their own nation. I see nothing wrong with trying what has never been tried before to test if it will make a difference, especially considering that most nations have already taken that step to recognize Palestine with no serious negatives resulting from such.
     
  24. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0


    That;'s the crazy part of it. JEWS in general do NOT regard Palestinians + other Arabs as being of the same race . Ashkenazis (European Jews ) somtimes think of themselves as White orr much superior to all Gentiles. Now + then they'd feel confident enough to voice what other Jews think . If you've ever had close contact with some , you might have noticed their characteristic arrogance .


    Here from the horse's mouth :



    I've a few more similar quotes by other Jewish Supremists .
     
  25. Marlowe

    Marlowe New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    11,444
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    0

    So you're quite happy about it are you ?

    Apart from Nazis and Sth Africa's now defunk Aparthaid regime . I cant think of where its more evident than in Israel .


    Evidence ? I've got loads . Here's a starter :



    example No 2 follows :


    ...
     

Share This Page