Israelis acknowledge Nakba, urge unity.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    any true government punishes its civilians who engage in criminal acts.

    Palestine is now a signatory of the Geneva Conventions and other Human Rights treaties. That means they need to prosecute their people for terrorism, or be found in violation of these treaties.

    and if not, then perhaps they don't deserve to be a state.
     
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    The aggressors were vain enough to proclaim their intentions worldwide, its always under "new information" and "top secret" crap that Muslim propaganda tries to change that fact.
     
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    Well then all of the squatters should be in jail, without exception.
     
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    You are making the assumption that they are not attempting to prosecute. But in order to prosecute they first have to arrest. And in order to arrest they have to find them. Somewhat difficult when in many cases you are dealing with somebody who has attached explosives on his/her person and therefore blown themselves to bits. So with this in mind, how do you suppose they go about punishing these kinds of people? Collective punishment perhaps? Or shall we just leave that to the experts in that particular field - the neo-Zionists?
     
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    is that supposed to be an excuse to not prosecute Palestine's terrorists?
     
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    The illegal actions of neoZionists is not Muslim propaganda but objective fact.
     
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    let's not forget that there would be NO wall, if it wasn't for Palestinian terrorism.
     
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    Well that's how the neo-Zionists in the Knesset rationalize it. It no longer surprises me that you are their echo-chamber.
     
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    You're quite mistaken. The Israeli courts have already ruled that Palestine is under belligerent occupation by Israel and that the wall is political .

    Now you're going to ask me for proof, right ? Search it yourself.
     
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    Mod Edit ~ Rule 2/Stop the name calling. gag order is limited to several days and the press agrees to those laws. its not killing the report so stop twisting please.
    Mod Edit ~ Rule 2/Stop the name calling. its not about the Gov but the law, security forces made the investigation and the arrest and the legal entity prosecutes, to restrict the press release for a few days offers no protection if what you say is correct, it only helps the investigation nothing more.

    You like saying that but there is no case and there is no trial, instead of repeating that sentance perhaps you can try to contredict what your own source said ? the same applies to Britain and by no means special case to Israel, thus making the AIPAC-Israel control on NYT - a turd in a soup (?).
    Your English is better than mine Mod Edit ~ Rule 2/Stop the name calling. - its the Israeli court, no Gov officail gives a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) on your terrorist, he is one of many, and the censorship is limited in exact time - once again - ITS ALL FROM YOUR OWN SOURCE.

    Its not about Gov's! - its about criminal justice case, the COURT disallows so justice and not public opinion will determine guilt, the court can edit a gag order so the police can investigate, and it does apply to UK since your own source said plain and clear.

    Show me where it says the NYT articles are shipped to an Israeli censor to cross whatever he doesnt like - that is your claim isnt it ?

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    I thought neo zionists came only after 67, enlighten me again please term-master.
     
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    lol, what borders did they recognize in order to call it invasion ? 48 lines ?
     
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    Your presented points always had a point that preceeded them, I think the newest trick is "we didnt shoot it. Islamic Jihad did!"

    Like I said, we are fine the way things are right now. no kissing required at all.
     
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    Sure.
    It's policy.

    Of course, it's an absolute disgrace for the press to comply with the ' media blackouts ' of a foreign government. Murder, slavery, apartheid, illegal occupation, common criminality etc.- all redacted by a neoFascist State as a matter of policy by an American newspaper
     
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    you make a silly claim and then refuse to support it???

    :roflol: forgive me for ignoring your claim.
     
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    You mean the same court that gave the gag order ?

    Mod Edit ~ Don't make it personal.
     
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    Many of the authors of the PNAC document which predicted and paved the way for the Iraq War and who later oozed their way into high positions in the Bush II administration were Israelis who also helped author Israel's policy for "securing the realm" under Ariel Sharon. (Richard Pearle, Scooter Libby, Douglas Feith and others).

    What is amazing to me as an American is how these moles were ever given clearance to work in sensitive US governmental positions when they were obviously and admittedly agents of a foreign government. The fact that they were speaks volumes regarding the power that the Zionist lobby holds over the US government and military.
     
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    none of them were Israeli citizens.
     
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    Is there a difference between an ' Israeli ' and an ' Israel Firster ' ?
     
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    The line you qouted says no such thing, it says NYT respects gag orders that Israeli press also respect, deeper inspection to your source says if its a big story they go around it, if not they just wait a few days then publish it, nowhere does it say the BS lie you suggested - that an Israeli censor decides what they read in the US or that its a special case just for Israel. both accusations were refuted BY YOUR OWN SOURCE, try telling the truth for a while, you were better doing that.
     
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    so now someone who supports Israel= citizen of Israel???

    :roflol: what a dishonest argument to make.
     
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    I only checked two of them but didnt see they have Israeli citizenship, they were born in the USA, no reason to suspect them other then your hatred to Jews, "moles" ?

    gee, I dont know jack, perhaps you should strap a bomb to your chest and blow some bus or something, y'know, to save America.......

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    They must be desperate....
     
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    You don't know that. I am sure all of them would be granted asylum in Israel if they were rightly accused of being foreign agents, which they definitely are.

    http://dual-loyalties.blogspot.com/2005/04/richard-perle-neocom-darling-is-in.html

    EXCERPT:

    Perle is one of the architects of the Iraqi invasion and has been agitating about invading Iran. I suspect we will see an attempt by the Bush administration to quash this lawsuit for Bush's corrupt advisor.

    Perle is close with Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, the man who quietly left the Administration when the FBI investigated whether he was passing classified information through unofficial channels to the Israeli's through his involvement in the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee. As Chairman of the Defence Policy Advisory Board, appointed by Rumsfeld in 2001, Perle was involved in an obvious conflict of interest where his former employer was seeking to leverage Homeland Security contracts with Perle's help.

    This time, unless Bush can protect him, Perle may be over his head.

    The Globe and Mail: SEC may sue Perle over Hollinger

    According to an investigation by a special committee of Hollinger International's board last year, Mr. Perle admitted that he signed off on many of the transactions without reading the documents. In a report, the committee sharply criticized Mr. Perle as a "faithless fiduciary" whose "head-in-the-sand behaviour" breached his duty to protect shareholders. The committee also found that Mr. Perle and an affiliated company pocketed more than $7-million in compensation and investments from Hollinger International and a subsidiary. Mr. Perle has denied that his Hollinger benefits had any influence on his decisions as a director. Hollinger International officials, shareholders and the SEC allege that Lord Black and Mr. Radler wrongfully diverted proceeds from the sale of some of the chain's newspapers for their personal use. Mr. Perle said he never profited from the Hollinger deals that investigators have scrutinized."
     
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    got any proof that any of them are citizens of Israel and hold an Israeli passport?
     
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    On the contrary, I think the election of Hamas in 2006 is an EXCELLENT starting point. Prior to that it was Fatah that held the reigns.

    So do you agree with that? If not, why not?
     
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    Gilos, as an Israeli I'm sure that you have no problem with former employees and confidants of Ariel Sharon leaving Israel then being appointed to high positions in the US State Department and Military. However, as an American, I see it as a gross conflict of interest. I do not bear any hatred toward Jews or any other religious group. I wouldn't want former employees and confidants of Putin or Castro occupying high governmental positions here in my home country either. I think this revolving door policy from the US state Department and military and Tel-Aviv is quite troubling.
     

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