It Always Starts with the Jews.

This topic is about Jews. Many so called African Americans are self proclaimed jews. You are in no position to determine who is a Jew.

 

Actually when history and the vast majority of humanity currently, is aware of who they are.... It is you who are in no position to determine some historical revisionism all on your own.

 

Who is they and who are you to determine who they are?

And who are you to determine what someone claims to be, like you have some understanding of what constitutes a Jew?

You are out of your depth here.

 

As I am short on time, I will try to address your major points first:

I will start with your statement in bold:

"Why it is so difficult for you to admit a true fact that there were people much worse then Jews?" ( quoted from Zalekbloom)

I have never said that Jews are either worse than anyone else or better than any other religious / ethnic group. I have repeatedly stated that I don't believe any, single, race, religious or ethnic group has a monopoly on either good or evil.

I am disappointed that you continue to rely on the blatantly Zionist dominated Wikipedia which even admits, itself, that it is unreliable.
The equally pro Zionist MEMRI is also an example of the pro Israeli MSM (1), (2)

Next:

You haven't "corrected" what I wrote but may have disagreed with my statement that: "IDF has been murdering, kidnapping, raping and torturing Palestinians by the tens of thousands while stealing their land since the 1940s.”

A simple time frame map supports precisely what I said as does the British Hope-Simpson Report of 1930 that you ignored along with the fact that Nazi armed and trained Zionist terrorist gangs destroyed over 500 Palestinian towns and villages, stole the land and raped, murdered, mutilated and/or expelled their residents.


Not only does a time frame map support the fact that: "IDF has been murdering, kidnapping, raping and torturing Palestinians by the tens of thousands while stealing their land since the 1940s.” but historians on both sides agree that:
"These attacks included massacres, direct expulsions and other atrocities both before and after the Declaration of the State of Israel."
"Nakba Denial and ‘Teshuvah’/Reparations"
https://evolve.reconstructingjudaism.org/nakba-denial-and-teshuvah-reparations/

EXCERPT "According to several Israeli new historians[3] like Benny Morris, Ilan Pappe and Tom Segev, plus the research of Palestinian scholars like Walid Khalidi and Rashid Khalidi, Nur Masalha, Addel Muna and many Palestinian oral reports, the real cause of the flight of Palestinians was Zionist forces attacking Palestinians. These attacks included massacres, direct expulsions and other atrocities both before and after the Declaration of the State of Israel. All these scholars agree that least 85%[4] of the 300,000 Palestinian refugees who fled before the Declaration of the State on May 15, 1948 fled because of attacks by the Zionist militias, direct expulsions or fear of massacre; the proportion of direct expulsions increased from July 1948 to end of the war. This is the truth of the Nakba, a truth that is profoundly troubling for most liberal and progressive Jews." CONTINUED

Another question you asked:

I hope you remember that I recently showed you a BBC poll that showed Israel to be one of the world's most unpopular countries.
The standard Hasbara response is to dismiss any criticism, justified or not, as as simply the product of anti Semitism.
Repeatedly howling "anti Semite" at criticism for every Israeli Human Rights violation, War Crime and act of deception is no longer an effective rebuttal especially when some of the harshest critics of Zionist criminality comes from other Jews.

Before I attempt to explain why I think that there was little global sympathy for the victims of 7 October 2023 I must say that I did, indeed, read and hear American politicians and pundits obediently repeating gross exaggerations about 40+ headless babies, babies in ovens and blaming Hamas for killings that were the work of trigger happy IDF members. (3)

It may be that the lack trust in Israel's 7 October narrative has dampened global empathy because people don't know what to believe.

Still another reason that there are no massive protests condemning Hamas is the feeling that after decades of ethnic cleansing, apartheid, genocide and / or general abuse that, at some level, the Israelis deserved their turn as victims in the cyclical violence that "Settlement" expansionism perpetuates.

A final though not complete reason for so little empathy for the victims of 7 October 2023 was the rapidity with which Israel's reaction became disproportionately genocidal.

In other words, Israel had achieved a proportionate and justifiable retaliation within hours. After that, 7 October became a suspiciously convenient excuse to seize Gaza for "Greater Israel" and exterminate / expel Gaza's native residents.

Finally, you posted various videos featuring Palestinian atrocities, hate speech, and more grisly videos that, I imagine, are intended as "proof" that the Palestinians are more violent, inferior, greedy and hate filled than the Israelis and their extremist "Settler" land thieves who murder West Bank Palestinians with impunity. (4)

Among the many possible reasons behind the long expected attack of 7 October is the realization that the right wing Netanyahu regime will neither make peace nor stop stealing Palestinian homes, farms and shops.
Gaza's long tormented and overcrowded Gaza's were / are a people without hope or prospects for a better life.

Because I doubt that anyone reading this has either spent time in Gaza or any Palestinian refugee camp with no hope for a better life, it's impossible to predict anything except one reality history has taught us.
All brutally occupied people eventually resist their occupier regardless of the consequences.

I hope I have answered most of your questions.

Enjoy your weekend,





(1). “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U

EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.” CONTINUED


(2). “Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

EXCERPT “Mainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ‘us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with,...." CONTINUED


(3). “Haaretz confirms Grayzone reporting it dismissed as ‘conspiracy’ showing Israel killed own festivalgoers”
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/11/21/haaretz-grayzone-conspiracy-israeli-festivalgoers/

EXCERPT “Israeli outlet Haaretz has acknowledged a police report confirmed partygoers at a festival three miles from the Gaza border were killed by the Israeli military on October 7, just two weeks after the publication accused Grayzone editor-in-chief Max Blumenthal of spreading “conspiracy theories” for reporting on the story." CONTINUED


(4). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/11/israel-west-bank-palestinians-settlers-violence.html

3, November 2023

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas." CONTINUED

 

I'll answer that when you explain who is the " extreme selfish disposition " that you so conveniently forgot to answer earlier.

 

An extremely selfish person knows who they are. No need for me to point fingers.

It is rather telling that you have already decided who it is.

 

Don't try to turn your anti-Semitism on me. I'm not the one who admires Louis Farrakhan

 

Don't try to turn your anti-Semitism on me. I'm not the one who admires MAGA

 

I'm not the guy who admires Farrakhan who says that Jews are termites

 

I'm not the guy who admires maga who says that Jews will not replace us.

 

You can't try to pin something on me that I never agreed with from a handful of people thousands of miles away from me and years ago but we see that you personally admire the anti-semite Lewis Farrakhan.

 

You can't try to pin something on me that I never agreed with from one person thousands of miles away from me and years ago but we see that you personally admire the anti-semite maga movement.

Project much?

How about discussing the topic for once instead of continually talking about Esau..

 

As you've probably seen where I have suggested that there were at least some members of the Netanyahu regime who were well aware of the Hamas attack planned for 7 October 2023 but allowed them to occur which gave Israel's right wing element the chance to do what they wanted to do all along:

- Invade Gaza, murder and expel Gaza's native residents and fill it with greedy and militant, right wig "Settlers" who poison land and water with weaponized raw sewage (1)

I have repeatedly asked who in Israel's government deliberately ignored specific warnings dating back at east one year, they ignored Hamas' videos showing how, when and where the attacks would occur and even ignored warnings of the attack from the Egyptians.
Finally, in addition to unfettered access to America's spy satellites and most effective monitoring equipment on the planet, there's no chance that at least some members of the Netanyahu regime knew about the pending attack and deliberately fabricated "headless babies" and other inflammatory lies in an attempt to justify the invasion of Gaza and exterminate its native residents.

This is not the first time that Zionists have been willing to sacrifice other Jews for a "Greater Israel."

“If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”

Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).
https://www.progressiveisrael.org/ben-gurions-notorious-quotes-their-polemical-uses-abuses/


As far as the much earlier attack on Pearl Harbor and 9/11, I also feel that the official narrative for those events, too, is deceptive, incomplete and misleading to the point of being fraudulent.
The objective of the official narrative behind both events was to demonize an adversary and drive America to war, not examine the facts and explain the causes.

Because too little emphasis is placed on the teaching critical literacy in our schools and too much credibility assigned to Hollywood's chronic demonization of "evil" Muslims, Japanese and, of course, Germans, many gullible rubes actually believe these fraudulent official narratives.

I suppose that there's a good reason that P.T. Barnum chose to make his fortune in America where: "There's a sucker born every minute."


Many thanks and keep up the good work.




(1). "The devastating environmental effects of Israeli settler-colonialism in the West Bank"

"Israeli settlement expansion is not only illegal, it is also destroying Palestine's environment through the urbanization of the West Bank."

https://mondoweiss.net/2022/01/the-...israeli-settler-colonialism-in-the-west-bank/


EXCERPT "Israel dumps 80% of the waste products generated from Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. This in turn, “[pollutes] the Palestinian earth and water supply, while Israeli settlers in the West Bank – who produce similar amounts of wastewater to the Palestinian population, despite being outnumbered more than six to one – deliberately poison the water, land and livestock of nearby Palestinian villages”. This means that every year over “2 million cubic metres of raw [untreated] sewage flow into the valleys of streams of the [Palestinian] West Bank…[causing] severe damage through the West Bank… " CONTINUED

 

Welcome to protest season, where the cause changes but the tactics stay the same. “These mass demonstrations used to be more localized, such as Occupy Wall Street or the unrest in Ferguson, Mo. Today, they are global, and the new cause is released with the regularity of a new car model’s marketing campaign. This year, ‘global intifada’ is all the rage. I suppose activists are brainstorming a new cause to release in May 2025.”

This time part of the Left is attacking the Jews, when most Jews are reliably Left.

 

Judaism in Africa is centered in Ethiopia.

History of the Jews in Ethiopia - Wikipedia

 

The presence of Jews in high places does not prove anything at all, but it does contribute to "the preponderance of the evidence" dynamic.

The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview 1976 The Hidden Tyranny – Crucible Media

If you dare read the Rosenthal interview, you will understand better. Mr. Rosenthal was Jewish, and in high places.

If you read the work of Christopher Bollyn, you will understand even better. Knowledge is a good thing.

 

From Idealism to Irresponsibility: Comparing College Protests Then and Now.

The Anti-Semitism is different.

'One apparently striking difference is the strong current of anti-Semitism. It is ubiquitous now; it was not a factor in the protests of the 1960s and 1970s.'

It's still Marxism.

'But that difference distracts us from a deeper similarity between the two. Fueling the anti-Semitism is a profound anti-American and anti-Western animus. Although shot through with radical Islamic verbiage, the overarching ideology is essentially Marxist in aim and origin. The assaults on campus are not so much political as a snarling repudiation of the political in favor of something more atavistic. As Jean-François Revel noted in The Totalitarian Temptation (1977), such an upsurge is “not simply a new political orientation. It works through the depths of society. It writes the play in which political leaders will act much later.”'

'As we ponder the emergence of “Gaza Solidarity Encampments” on the quads of our most exclusive universities, it may be useful to note a few things that today’s protestors have in common with their predecessors.'

'One of the most conspicuous, and conspicuously jejune, features of America’s cultural revolution has been the union of hedonism with a species of radical (or radical-chic) politics. This union fostered a situation in which, as the famous slogan put it, “the personal is the political.” The politics in question was seldom more than a congery of radical clichés, serious only in that it helped to disrupt society and blight a good many lives. In that sense, to be sure, it proved to be very serious indeed.'

'Our new revolutionaries, like the college revolutionaries of yore, exhibit that most common of bourgeois passions, anti-bourgeois animus—expressed, as always, safely within the swaddling clothes of bourgeois security. Typical was the spectacle of that Columbia Ph.D. candidate who, having helped smash into and occupy a major college classroom building, stood before microphones, keffiyeh in place, to demand that the university feed the occupiers. As Allan Bloom remarked in The Closing of the American Mind (1987), the cultural revolution proved to be so successful on college campuses partly because of “the bourgeois’ need to feel that he is not bourgeois, to have dangerous experiments with the unlimited. . . .Anti-bourgeois ire is the opiate of the Last Man.” It almost goes without saying that, like all narcotics, the opiate of anti-bourgeois ire was both addictive and debilitating.'

'Like Falstaff’s dishonesty, the adolescent quality of these developments was “gross as a mountain, open, palpable.” Looking at the pampered multitudes agitating on campus, one is reminded that now, as in the 1960s, the actions of the protestors were at bottom an attack on maturity; more, they was a glorification of immaturity. As the Yippie leader Jerry Rubin put it, “We’re permanent adolescents.”'

‘Violent’ leader of Columbia University’s anti-Israel protest is unmasked as 4o-year old son of millionaire ad execs who is married to a model and lives in $3.4M Brooklyn brownstone.

 

Jewish folk only employ other Jewish folk, so once one gets in power they all do, its nepotism and far from meritocracy.

 

Thank you for this very important information. I am going to write to Wikipedia requesting removal of this false information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Wallace_Rosenthal

After writing my letter for sure I will start to read this fascinating book.

 

Wow! How Jews and Blacks are similar!
Black folk only employ other Black folk, so once one gets in power they all do, its nepotism and far from meritocracy.

 

Similar?

They are the same thing! Smh

 

Isn't one of the so called "lessons of the Holocaust" supposed to be against apathy when there is a genocide taking place or does that only apply when Jews are the victims?

If you don't know what conditions are like in Gaza it's only because pro Israel MSM is too busy recycling hyperbolic old Holocaust film fodder.

 

Gaza's genocidal dreams are being thwarted.

Harvard Harris Poll

 

I think it is very simple - Harvard and Columbia students showed apathy when on Oct 7 Hamas committed genocide against Jews but showed great sympathy to victims of Jews:
https://www.columbiaspectator.com/n...y-groups-release-open-letter-joint-statement/

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/10/15/gaza-protest-harvard/

We all know that conditions in Gaza are terrible and we all know that if Hamas release hostages and leave Gaza - Palestinian people will stop suffering.
Unfortunately there are some people who don't care about Palestinians and are very happy that Hamas is fighting Jews - these people will never demand release hostages, will insist that murdering, raping and kidnapping on Oct 7 was not genocide, but response to Oct 7 was.
And Hamas knows they have great support and promise more Oct 7 attacks.
Very sad.

 

Your hatred of the Jews is obsessive and pathetic.