It Sure Looks Like Marie Yovanovitch Committed Perjury in Her Testimony

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Nah. My opinion is correct. Republicans in the Senate have no spines and Trump owns their balls.
     
  2. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    When did Hillary get impeached and elected POTUS?

    Oh wait, nevermind. This is just the classic Trumpers but, but Hillary defense. LOL
     
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    Bold 1 = BS - That will eventual be stated by the SCOTUS, but D's aren't waiting anymore - wisely
    Bold 2 = Irrelevant - They are still in a subservient position to the current administration.
    Bold 3 = Doubtful, but this isn't a legal process as you define it.
    Bold 4 = Ridiculous - If that was the case, they would have move immediately after the Mueller report came out... was plenty of justification there.
    Bold 5 = The only question is who pays more... I hypothesize R's for blind subservience... American's don't love that in the end.
     
  4. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Of course we won't be removed. Republicans in the Senate have no spine and Trump owns their balls.
     
  5. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    What's sad is your boy is indeed going to be impeached. LOL
     
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    If only the ambassador would realize she was played by schifty.
     
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    How many times can we tell you to read the transcript before you'll notice?
     
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    Another National Security staff member just testified that EU Ambassador Soudland told him that he was in charge of Ukraine policy and that he talked frequently with the President. He checked each time Soudland told the NSC what the President wanted and Soudland was right. The President essentially allowed him (and Rudy) to by-pass the State Department in order to pressure Ukraine for personal gain. And, Soudland confirmed that in his telephone conversation with the President, overheard by embassy staffers, at the restaurant in Kiev.
    Connect the dots.
    If Pompeo wants a political career after Trump, he should resign within the next few days.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who are you loyal to? Have you studied Lysander Spooner? He speaks of voting, voters and the constitution.
     
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    Democrats ae so full of hate they would trade our national identity to erase Trump.
     
  12. Robert

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    Mrs Yovanovich clearly is a dupe of Schiff. She is not there as a volunteer. She was served a subpoena. When asked to name Crimes done by Trump, she said none.
     
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    She said she wasn't aware of any, in response to a question asked by one of the Republican committee members. That's what the committee is investigating.
     
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    Just so were clear. If Hillary did the exact same thing, you would be OK with that ?

    I mane you did support the Benghazi and email hearings right ?
     
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    Not to mention she was actually out of the country doing her job most of the last few years ;)
     
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    Bold 1 is the truth as is Bold 2, 3 and 4.

    Bold 4 is fact. Democrats openly announced it. They started it ahead of the actual swearing in. Recall the way Trump was slashed and burned merely for taking his oath to the office? 19 minutes after he was sworn in, Democrats commenced the impeachment process.

    I am pleased with the progress during Trump though Democrats want to credit his success to the failed Obama.

    The tell will be the election in November of 2020. When Trump wins, it will drive Democrats crazy.

    As I said and repeat, though it ought not be necessary, the Senate will never convict.

    Take the Russians in Russia, are they convicted? There is a legal process to have them convicted. Why are not Democrats speaking of convicting those they believe to be guilty?

    Finally, why are Democrats so eager to help out the former Ukrainians who did work to elect Hillary? The current government of Ukraine did nothing to help elect Hillary. The corrupt ex-Government did.
     
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    You do not believe Schiff is investigating. You know for a fact in your way of thinking, he found Trump guilty.

    Glad you and I agree on what she said as to crimes done by Trump. She said she knows of none.
     
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    Those four would be enough to change the Senate rules to allow for a secret vote. Then all bets would be off.
     
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    About as many times as you've got to be told that the transcript is not a record of the entire phone call.
     
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    We had that secret vote talk last week, as I recall... I'm still not sure how I feel about the concept...

    It's sort of a bad thing (having secret votes), but if it's the only way to accomplish the goal, I might swallow my discomfort and hope for it...

    Even if they got 4 who vote to convict, that would be YUGE... there goes the Trump argument of partisan process... right out the window with 99% of what he says...

    I wonder what 4 the Prof was referring to?? Mitt, Murkowski, ?, ?
     
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    LOL.... that's funny... what do you think Schiff was doing until 10PM last night and again starting at 10AM today??

    Tetris?? Fantasy Football??

    And not once has he run to the WH for HIS information....

    He's running out of days to schedule the witnesses coming forward...
     
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    She got fired from her assignment as an ambassador but you know that and are obviously trying to throw mud around.
     
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    Maybe she did not hear of him bragging... because this was just implementing us policy at the time

    I never saw it, and chances are that you have not seen it until it became a thing in conservative Media... which not every one tracks

    In case you are interested, here is a run down on what happened with regard to Biden and this prosecutor

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...orced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

    Basically... there was a big problem with political corruption in the Ukraine
    The prosecutor was a problem because he was not prosecuting the political corruption
    The investigation into Burisma was terminated BEFORE Biden’s son was involved with them
    Getting rid of that prosecutor was not Bidens idea I order to protect his son
    it was an international policy a objective that was assigned to Biden to follow up on... entirely independent of his son and Burisma

    Yes it is true that the ambassador was prepped on this issue....
    It was not because there was an administration policy controversy about Biden or his son
    It was because of the likelihood that senators would ask about the faux issue now being raised by frump. And so the ambassadors answer that the issue was not raised was saying the issue was never raised as a policy issue.
     
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    It's sickening that some trumpers are screeching about her being a "deep-stater". As if that has any meaning.
     
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    They already have. It's premeditated, which is what makes it meaningless.
     
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