It's Time For Trump To Call Ukraine's 'Pro-Russian Rebels' What They Are: Russian Inv

No Sergei... What's surprising is you can't even deny the fact that there is a "green corridor" starting from the Caucasus, goes through Turkey and finishing in North Syria set by the FSB. You can't also deny the FSB agents issuing "brand new" passports for "listed" Jihadi terrorists like Saadu Sharapudinov or Rabadanov to send them via this route to Syria to join ISIS. These jihadis are very well known by names and shared by reuters along with photos of themselves and their families.

Those links you shared as examples of simply "nothing" are not even close to be refuting any of these claims by no means. So sharing none sense is not going to help you dodge any of the proven facts like FSB having managed to create a subgroup within ISIS to serve as a "Russian Proxy" in Syria !!!

And what's more surprising is compared to your earlier posts, all of a sudden you started posting in a little too well English. What's going on Sergei? Why hiding behind the "multinational" "multicultural" "multi this" and "multi that" bs? Why do you think being multi-national or having multi-cultural social structure would make any difference when it comes to Russian citizens already listed as terrorists by the FSB get issued brand new passports and get to fly from Moscow international to Istanbul and then end up in Syria joining ISIS? Why so serious now?

 

RT- isn't this Russia Today?

 

Yes and all rossia TV

 

The problem is that the russkis living " behind the lines" in the " newly" created states have been known to cause problems and still do, simply because they harbor these feelings of some ...superiority..over the other ethnic minorities, which they've never recognized since they were the conquered people anyway, and feel their " rights" supercede everyone else's. There never really was a "CccP", it was a giant prison more than anything else and anyone trying to tell me that many languages were spoken "freely" is an illusion, russian was the dominant and speaking anything other may have gotten you a ticket to Siberian" summer camp". No surprise you don't approve of poroshenko or any other president in Ukraine, most Muscovites don't, a russian governor more fitting, something that clown Zhirinovsky has said numerously.

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Yes, may as well say Putler TV.

 

I literally did just that - denied that such thing exists.

Second - if you once again will adress my by a made up name - I will report that as insult and invasion in my privacy. Forum rules nowhere stated that I have to be deanonymised for using forum, and therefore you, to say the least, have no approval for adressing me by made up names.

And I do - and will keep doing that - deny that my country's security services providing any sort of assistance to terrorists.

And I am not the one who is in need of proving anything, I am not the one making accusations. If you make accusations - you provide proofs. And not just opinion of some media agency, but a literal proofs. Registered confessions of terrorists and members of security services, with proofs of their identity and reliability of their statements. You do not simply smear dirt over a country and get away with that, this is not medieval age, and there is not more iron curtain to protect you from a legit, rational questioning of where is basis for such accusations, and why, for example, your security services fail to capture terrorists, that may be passing through your country into mine? Or do you think these ISIS recruteers just materialized out of nowhere in my country, and started trashing heads of youth with that ISIS garbage, luring naive into a terrorist army?
Or if I ask these questions, your 'green corridor' will suddenly vanish and you will starts blaming Azerbaijan and Armenia, Georgia and Iraq?


As for me being capable of typing well in English, well - SURPRISE! - in twenty first century it is kinda common language of globe, you kno-ow? So it's kinda necessary to know it! Using German like in XIX century, or French like in XVIII century is out of fashion, there's new language that needs to be well known to communicate with majority of foreigners.

And if you, somehow, did not knew, there is an article on Wikipedia about what multinational state is, with list of such states included:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_state
If for you it sounds like bull(*)(*)(*)(*) - well, my condolences to your ancestors, who, if I am not wrong, for ages lived, in country included in the list I provided. Country, that I quote, 'Through millet courts, confessional communities were allowed to rule themselves under their own legal systems: for example, sharia law for Muslims, Canon law for Christians, and halakha law for Jews. After the Tanzimat reforms from 1839–76, the term "millet" was used to refer to legally protected religious minority groups, similar to the way other countries use the word "nation". (The word "millet" comes from the Arabic word "millah" (مل&#1577, which literally means "nation".)[citation needed] The millet system has been called an example of pre-modern religious pluralism.'
I assume you consider that being bull(*)(*)(*)(*)?

Or you did not knew that Russian Federation consists of various ethnicities and nations, religions and cultures?

I am so serious now, because apparently for past tenty five years people abroad considered a normality to smear dirt over my country and citizens of it. That - believe it or not - became a concern of mine.
And I have to add, that there are lots, lots of such concerned people, who grew up in our country, and going to live in our contry for many, many years, and do not find neither current government, current attitude towards RF, economy, quality of life, and presence of various hostile elements around borers of our country acceptable.

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You made statement - go prove it.

 

Ninian..it's not just a "statement", there's merit to it also, I've been to Ukraine twice, and Russia once , I've spoken to many, you may not be aware since you live in Moscow land. Seems you find some things "offensive" here? Well I do to, but get a " thick skin" for starters.

 

Proofs. Without them - it is a domestic opinion. And yes, I do find underestimations of citizens of my country, unsupported accusations, and direct insults being offensive - and by rules of forum I can report at least the insults, if find that being a necessary measure.

 

You're no Russian citizen Miss...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva

 

Proofs. If that is such a common knowledge, that any of 'normal people' automatically know that - provide the proof. And do not expect me to take these ludocrous accusations for granted without one, and a good, solid one.

Simple. Not enough proof. I can wrap kerchief around my head and say I am a suicide bomber, confessing to be supported by ФСБ. That will not my make words true, just as what any of these 'jihadists' said.

Proove that accusations legit.

 

FSB sent jihadis to join ISIS in Syria with brand new passports. This guy called Saadu Sharapudinov is the proof:



I believe you can always ask Chechens and Dagestan militants who chop off heads, legs, arms in Syria for proof too. They totalled up around 3000 a year ago. God knows how many are there today. I've been to Syria, have you? I know Russian is the second most spoken language after Arabic by the ISIS militants. Saudis, therefore the US is number 1 source, second is Russia, third is UK.

By the way, how long did it take finding the FSB's Russian abbreviation Dimitros?

And you prove that you weren't born on May or June !

 

I checked Google, and all sources about him lead to Reuters. With no other sources presenting their own look at that individual, nor I can find any sort of information about such individual existing, being a terrorist, and being in list for arrest.

I can assume members of these nationalities are present here. I an also assume, some of them may been members of terrorist organizations for years, and not necesserily came to Syria directly from RF. Since end of last war in Checnya in 2000 and end of terrorist activity there in 2009 they had plenty of time to move out country, to evade being arrested ad put in trial.

Prove it.

Ah, I see where assumption about greek descend comes. I have three languages installed on my keyboard, since time when I studied antient Greek in university.

And again, stop assuming names.

 

I didn't say anything about Greeks, why so nervous?

And what happened to those cute little grammar errors? Are they all gone now..?

ahahah... Oh lord that literally cracked me up...

Since you love wikipedia just found something cool, you might wanna check:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva

I wonder if Dimitros is still wearing that funny hat

And since you're not a greek, and a patriotic Russian citizen, whom I admire the most, I think it is just fine for me to say all greeks are pathetic lazy morons, aren't they ""ALL""?

ahahah...

 

'"Assad being happy with US proxies who invade his lands' well, Kurds always live in Syria, even when French men created Syria. Baath lost Syria to breath control technologies. I just don't baath -alawit Syria can work in 2017. Much like Muscovite empire...

 

First of all, for a second time you give a link of wiki page about goddess Minerva. I do not know, if deliberately, or you have some glitch with forum that affects your links.

Second - no, I do not find your statement about greeks being true, and point to you that it is insulting.

Third - I have right to type well and fine, and accusations made based on level of my grammar correctness - that is, between you and me, is still far from a decent level, in my opinion - is one of many ridiculous acts I have witnessed happening on that forum.

Stop assuming names, that begins to sound less like impoliteness and more like unhealthy obsession of some sort.

 

No... During the French mandate, Kurds were only in and around Jazira, making up to 7% of the total population in that small city and a very small fraction of the general population and many of them have "migrated" from Turkey after their well documented British backed uprisings have failed. Their number later grew in Syria by migrations from the East mostly and skyrocketed starting from 2011. Before the French mandate, there were only few thousands living in villages around Afrin. The reason as I told you before, is that their homeland is "Zagros" mountains located in Iran-Iraq border.

 

"Where's my Ouzo? Fetch the baklava or any other Turkish food we call greek... Cheers Reeee..."

Anyways, seems like Dimitros needs to calm down and go take a nap now...

 

I've read this article in the newspaper which our dear friend and Putin's agent Litwin posted here about this green corridor. But I can't agree that's kinda a "double game". FSB saw a good chance to improve criminal situation in the North Caucasus and helped those ones who wished to join jihad to do that in Syria, not in Russia. And in Syria most of these jihadists were successfully utilized by Syrian army. That was the point.

 

Chechens are guns for hire. What's new?

 

And where is proof? Present it, please.

Well, apparently my country now accused of being responsible for some of them appearing in Syria and one precise media agency making a few articles on that, with no integrity in them. And as always - no sources, no proofs, no anything. Apparently we supposed to take that for granted because RF is now a 'Doctor Evil' of the world in the inflamed imagination of specific, peculiar special people that, regretfully in my opinion, can vote in their countries.

 

Which proof?
This article says names, places, dates...
https://www.novayagazeta.ru/articles/2015/07/29/65056-171-halifat-primanka-dlya-durakov-187

 

The only difference I think is that Western Europe and Japan did not wage war against the United States because of the occupation.

 

Yeah I agree, but that was before,
Russia now is a sovereign state and Ukraine is also a sovereign state, independent with each other.
In view to this fact the conflict or rather atrocity of Russia against Ukraine is already international and we do have peacekeeping which is delegated to deal such an unwanted issues. That's why US and the rest of the enforcers are there.

 

Article provides no proofs. I am not supposed to take for granted statements like that. Ι have not found other sources confirming that info.
But - taking in consideration positive rewievs of that media source, I may presume it may posess grain of truth.

That would mean that security service of my country have assister terrorists - wich is a serious case, that - if will be confirmed - will be a cause of scandal, to say the least.
Until there is no further proof - I cannot take that for being true, but I will keep an eye on the subject in the future.

 

Which does not changes fact, that post-soviet countries suffer from a various territorial desputes. As example - two wars in Chechnya in RF. So I fear that such disputes may continue, and will be harming efforts towards unification of Eastern Europe with Western.

And I point once again, that referendum in Crimea is a democratic procedure, and that it caused no casualties, unlike the armed conflict in DPR and LPR between separatists and pro-ukrainian insurgents. It may have been much more grim life for Crimea, if military of RF was not present here during the referendum, and elements, such as ones that blocked coal supply to Ukraine and that Poroshenko have not subjugated - instead subjecting citizens of Ukraine to energy crisis - would have had chance to interfiere with crimean referendum. I remind you, in Lugans and Donetsk it started with referendums too, but with no presence of RF or Ukraine military.

I recommend taking that in consideration, when calling actions of RF in Crimea 'an atrocity'.

 

you seem to find just about everything insulting!...get a pair and get a thicker skin, this is social media here on PF forum.