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'It's turned crazy': Inside the scramble for Trump pardons

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Andrew Jackson, Dec 16, 2020.

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    As for McCain I was referring to the posters accusations that McCain was a closet communist and a disdain for the USA.

    Trump is the anti free speech and due process !!!
     
    mdrobster, Dec 23, 2020
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  2. Arkanis

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    They have all been convicted of war crimes by the American justice.

    Do you understand what "war crime" means?
     
    Arkanis, Dec 23, 2020
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    At least he pardoned a couple whose testimony could be useful in an investigation and suspect more will be coming.

    I hope he pardon’s himself simply because it would be fun to watch him testify under oath with no way out.
     
    PPark66, Dec 23, 2020
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  4. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He can't pardon himself. The constitution says he has the power to grant a pardon. You can't grant yourself something. (Though this is not tested with SCOTUS.)
     
    Curious Always, Dec 23, 2020
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  5. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just did some reading about the incident. It was chaotic, there was a bomb or mortar used (not by the Blackwater people), people dressed as Iraqi police opened fire on the convoy, bullets that killed the civilians could not be matched by the FBI to the weapons used by the Blackwater people, and empty cartridge cases of foreign manufacture were found on the ground in the battle space.

    I'm not saying with 100% certainty that the fire from some of the Blackwater guards didn't kill some civilians. But I do see "reasonable doubt", and I am aware that bad things can happen in "the fog of war", while there is chaos, and while under unimaginable stress. Add to that, if you ask combat vets about the Iraqis in battle, they will tell you that they are well known for firing wildly, with little regard for accuracy or civilians, often without even aiming.
     
    Seth Bullock, Dec 23, 2020
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    Jestsayin, Dec 23, 2020
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    peacelate, Dec 23, 2020
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  8. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The democrat run cities are already doing that thank you very much.
     
    Jestsayin, Dec 23, 2020
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  9. peacelate

    peacelate Banned

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    Do you think Trump will pardon more killers than activist judges will this month?
     
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    They are defense contractors. In this case they were escorting State Department officials through a war zone. Would you murder the State Department officials as well?
     
    glitch, Dec 23, 2020
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    Oh but do you have evidence?
     
    doombug, Dec 23, 2020
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  12. doombug

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    War is hell.
     
    doombug, Dec 23, 2020
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    It’s not the number, it’s who he’s pardoning
     
    The Mello Guy, Dec 23, 2020
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  14. peacelate

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    Trump supporters don't care. It's not who or how many get pardoned. It's who is doing the pardoning. Trump could posthumously pardon Bin Laden and they would laud it.
     
    peacelate, Dec 23, 2020
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    I agree that the last thing we want in our military. Our front line line troops should be men in drag, crippled lesbians and blind minorities. They may lose the battle but *******n, they will win a million diversity points.

    It would be interesting to see what would happen if our chicken hawk leaders spent some time on the front line instead of prosecuting the people they send to the front line.
     
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    So being challenged stopped Trump from being great? Trump hasn't been a great POTUS? What, exactly, did the left do that stopped Trump's great plans? What were those plans that were stopped?
     
    Pants, Dec 23, 2020
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    LOL! Yeah that Papadopoulos guy is really dangerous......
     
    doombug, Dec 23, 2020
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    Why would Trump pardon activist judges?
     
    Jestsayin, Dec 23, 2020
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    Defense contractor... LOL!
    Your state dpt offcials shouldn't be there in the first place.
     
    Badaboom, Dec 23, 2020
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    Only in liberal land is following the constitution unconstitutional. Civics classes are in order.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 23, 2020
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    It'll be for you soon too.
     
    Badaboom, Dec 23, 2020
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    Who cares, eh?
     
    Surfer Joe, Dec 23, 2020
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    Compared to activist judges, will Trump pardon more.
     
    peacelate, Dec 23, 2020
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  24. Doofenshmirtz

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    Nothing unreasonable about these pardons.
     
    Doofenshmirtz, Dec 23, 2020
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    Well let's bring back the draft so we don't need contractors. What do you think? Only this time no College deferments.
     
    JET3534, Dec 23, 2020
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