Jail for Danish ex-minister for asylum separations

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I applaud this. Ministers being held accountable for breaching the law on the policies they pushed through out of political believes. This should be done way more often.



    And FYI... I added that her own party puked her out. Nobody agrees what she did.
     
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    JAIL Time is most appreciated
    and not just a fine & probation.


    Meanwhile, with no appreciation of Latino Adoption
    :flagus: separated immigrant children from the adults
    they identified as their parent.
    Courtesy of St. Obama



    JAIL Obama :rant:


    Moi :oldman:



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    Good.
    So he can share his cell with Donald, how did that far more often. So Donald should be in there for much longer.
     
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    **** Denmark. She supported the separation of muslims with 'child brides'. So in your mind, it's a bad thing to separate asylum seekers for any reason? Seems to me the muslims are gaming the system just like the folks crossing our southern border.
     
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    The judge ruled against the minister, and she's been kicked out of her right wing party because of it.
    See that I care you think it's acceptable.

    Point is... it's a happy thing a judge can kick a minister into jail for breaching the law.
     
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    I must say I'm a little confused as to how this will work now - they will inprison the kid with the supposed parent? Or just release them both into the interior of the country?
     
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    I think it's a little ridiculous. Yes, the law directed the minister to do one thing, but what the law stated was kind of questionable and bordering on being ridiculous in that situation.

    The minister was having couples separated when the female was under the age of 18 and the husband was older. With so many migrants coming from the Middle East, the minister feared some of those girls could be victims.

    The Left was angry at this minister because her actions are perceived as being Right wing anti-muslim anti-immigrant, even though her actions in this case could arguably also have been Feminist and pro-women, trying to protect female migrants from sexual abuse.

    The other side is saying the law directed the minister to have to examine all these situations on a case by case basis, which did not happen. The minister probably believed those couples should be separated immediately, and then for reasons of pragmatics they cases could not be quickly individually examined.
     
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    I half agree with what she did.
    Of course there is rule of law, but the law is not always made or obviously designed for specific sorts of situations like this one. In such a situation, it is reasonable to give the minister some leeway, until that minister is specifically instructed otherwise.

    Imagine a 36 year old man is having sex every night with a 13 year old girl. Should the Danish government do nothing? At that point the government has not really assessed the situation and determined whether the girl really even wants to be in that relationship, whether she was forced into the marriage or entered it by choice, whether they even are actually married, etc.

    Even if you say "Okay, you can't have sex", it's still unrealistic to house them in the same quarters. That male and female have been accustomed to living as husband and wife and most likely they are just going to go on continuing to have sex.
    And then you're going to have teenage girls ending up pregnant, and the government is going to have to deal with that, which will just complicate the whole refugee migration process.

    You can totally see why this minister made the decision she did.
     
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    If you applaud that, then I question whether the news media article you read about it in intentionally misled you about the actual background of the situation.

    Because the reasons for the minister's actions don't seem to be in your opening post.

    But hey, I guess you support a 40 year old man and a 14 year old girl sleeping in the same room, when they have had sex in the past and the man feels it's only completely natural to have sex with her.
    Or maybe you feel they should have at least gotten unsupervised visits together every day?

    (If you have no idea what I'm talking about, then it's obvious you don't really understand the issue, the situation, or the story you read about)
     
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    Not hard to figure out if the parents got a kid.
    We got DNA for that.
     
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    In this case it is about "23 couples, most of whom had a small age difference, were separated without individual examination of their case, following instructions from the minister"
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...ets-prison-term-for-splitting-migrant-couples


    Your example is something that she wasn't convicted over.
     
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    What do you do if it is verifiably their kid and the parent needs to go to jail?

    Imprison the parent and care for the child as a ward of the state

    Imprison both together

    Turn both around at the border

    Fly them back to their country of origin

    Or let them both into the interior of the country?
     
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    This is not about that if. This is just illegally demanding young married couples to live apart when applying for asylum without a care in the world.


    And most of all... this is about getting politicians behind bars for demanding their law breaking policies to be implemented. Way too many think they can rule with impunity and are above the law. You can stretch this idea that politicians who made it seemingly legal to torture prisoners, are breaching the law. Rumsfeld lost the courtcase about it in the US. I wouldn't know why he is walking around as a free person.
     
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    Could be a good idea, OSHA's vaccine mandate in the US just got struck down as illegal so I suppose they could imprison the head of that agency.
     
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