Jeff Sessions vs. Cannabis

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Will Trump Stop Legal Marijuana?

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  1. Nordic Democrat

    Nordic Democrat Well-Known Member

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    We all know Jeff Sessions is a backwards confederate when it comes to social policies. His view on marijuana is less intelligent than that of a caveman. ‘Good people don’t smoke marijuana’ and as far back as 1986, he joked that he thought the Ku Klux Klan “was okay until I found out they smoked pot,”. Sessions further argued that a lack of leadership from President Obama had been one of the drivers of the trend toward marijuana legalization in recent years. “I think one of [Obama's] great failures, it's obvious to me, is his lax treatment in comments on marijuana,” Sessions said at the hearing. “It reverses 20 years almost of hostility to drugs that began really when Nancy Reagan started ‘Just Say No.’ ”

    Most Trump supporters I know want cannabis legal, even if they do not use it. 60% of people now agree that it should be legal, and is no longer a "left hippie" or "libertarian" issue. Cannabis is now mainstream, and for the better.

    On cannabis, Trump has said "In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state. Marijuana is such a big thing. I think medical should. And then I really believe we should leave it up to the states. And of course you have Colorado. There's a question as to how it's all working out there, you know? That's not going exactly trouble-free."

    In 1990, Trump had said that "the only way to win the War on Drugs was to legalize drugs and use the tax revenue to fund drug education programs. As he put it, "You have to take the profit away from these drug czars." In his 2000 book, The America We Deserve, he stated that he'd never tried drugs "of any kind."

    Now, with all of this said.....do you believe Trump will turn moron Sessions lose on the new legal industry, or will he come to his senses and override Sessions and demand he not interfere?

    Let's hope for the latter, or the administration will face a severe backlash.

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  2. polski

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    This will be an interesting confirmation hearing.
    Sessions likes to talk. It should be fun to watch.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    recreational marijuana or decriminalization will become the law in the majority of states in 10 years
     
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    I think Sessions will go where Trump directs on this issue. However, let's be clear what the issue is: marijuana is still illegal in all 50 states. The fact that several states have decriminalized it under state law does not make it any more legal. It's still covered under the Controlled Substances Act. You want to smoke pot legally, then remove pot from that act. Until then, even if you share a joint with a local deputy, a fed can still arrest the both of you. Trying to pretend it's "legal" is an absurd fiction.
     
  5. Nordic Democrat

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    The Obama administration directed a memo to the DOJ to officially respect states where cannabis IS legal. Do you believe stone aged Sessions will continue the disastrous prohibition policy? What do you think Trump will say? Like I mentioned, cannabis legalization is VERY popular in the US, but our moronic Congress seems incapable of understanding that.
     
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    No, it is now legal in Maine, Colorado, California, Mass, and a few other states.

    Federal govt. can only regulate interstate movement of the drug.
     
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    Let's hope he talks himself right out of the job.

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    How much damage will be done from the DOJ re-fighting the war on marijuana? I'm afraid this will be a tough fight.
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Right, that was "prosecutorial discretion" from the Obama administration. Trump, from his public statements, seems anti drug, so I don't think the Trump administration is going to issue that same memo, but I'm not sure when he would take this up since it will be a political fight once the administration clarifies their policy on it.
     
  9. Lil Mike

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    From the guy who is worried about Trump concentration camps...

    So your legal argument is that the Controlled Substances Act only applies to interstate commerce? I think you guys on the left have forgotten how you've raped the commerce clause over the past century.
     
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    Yep, Genie is out of the bottle.
     
  11. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, its YOU who should be worried
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    You plan on tossing me in one?
     
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    I don't think the dems can stop this. They can, however, make him very uncomfortable. I do not see any pub voting against him.
     
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    For sure, it will be a HUGE fight. I really, really am hoping he doesn't allow Sessions to have control. He is a drug war dinosaur leftover from the 80s. Both red states and blue states want this for their coffers. Tax revenue for something less harmful than alcohol, it's a win/win. Except for anti science morons like Sessions.

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    Anyone who votes for him should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.
     
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    Well, many politicians prostitute themselves to corporations & other big money groups, so shame will not bother them.
     
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    I'm not so sure it is a win/win to oppose Sessions on pot. What you will have Democrats do is oppose a nominee for Attorney General, the chief law enforcement officer of the country, because you don't want him to enforce the law.

    That will be an amusing argument. The last two Attorney's General didn't enforce the law, why should this one?

    I personally would prefer that pot be legal, but the hypocrisy of having "legal" pot in some states when it's still covered under the Controlled Substances Act is just ridiculous. If the Dems were honest, they would just make the argument to remove marijuana from Schedule 1 by passing a law, but funny, going the legal route doesn't occur to anyone, so here we are.
     
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    I meant it's a win/win to be pro legalization. Cannabis is not the only reason to oppose a confederate to the UNITED STATES Justice Department. But that's another debate....

    That memo Obama issued was helpful in lieu of changing the laws. I hear you on Democrats, they are seriously the wussiest bunch of babies I have ever seen in politics. They should have introduced this bill DECADES ago, but as you say, here we are.

    People are going to jail and prison for this, so anything to stop the prohibition immediately is what should happen first. The Republicans in the House and Senate are too stupid to understand the will of the voters, BUT, Dems have no spine or backbone.
     
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    Well, you seem to think that the Attorney General not prosecuting is legalization; it's not. You don't get legalization by getting an Attorney General to promise to not enforce the law (well under a Republican administration anyway).

    The only legally correct answer is to remove Pot from the controlled substances act. That requires Congress to pass a law. The fact that states decided to play pretend because ONE President made the decision to not enforce the law was foolish.
     
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    Of course, I never said the AG not enforcing the law is our goal, but he MUST avoid attacking this new, growing industry. I have zero confidence in Congress, or the idiots who sit in the Senate, so ACTUAL legalization at the Fed level will not happen until Millennials start getting elected 30 years from now.

    States legalizing is not pretend, Cannabis IS legal within the state borders and not on federal property within. The feds can raid and arrest, but doing this would have to be priority number one since the costs and political blow back would/will be HUGE, so the states literally can get away with it. I support that. Anything to stop the arrests and prosecutions.
     
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    Yes state legalization is pretend. Marijuana is still a schedule 1 drug in Colorado, just like in any other state. It's not restricted to federal property.
     
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    No, it's NOT pretend actually. It is ILLEGAL in Colorado (and now 1/3 of the population) for local LEO's to arrest people on federal charges. The feds can of course come in and TRY to stop it, but it's so widespread and accepted the political blow back would/will be huge.

    My federal government thinks I am a federal criminal, but my state (California) protects me most of the way. There is a very slim chance of being arrested by feds in my own home, slim to none in fact.
     
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    So because there are political consequences to following the law, you think there is no law.

    OK
     
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    My opinion of our congressional invertebrates is so low that I can barely stand thinking about them. And the Orange-tan has flip-flopped on so many issues, he can’t even decide which wig to wear. There will be no intelligent leadership in D.C. for the next four years, just the insane leading the stupid.

    Still, I hope they can, at least, legalize pot. I’ve never seen a violent pothead. The government should supply every American with free pot in order to help us get through the next four years.
     
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    And this 'new' industry IS bringing jobs back to America. Small Hands should be thrilled about that.
     
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    Backlash doesn't matter to these Neanderthals, in fact, they court it on some things and this is one of them. Marijuana is "immoral" and "decadent" to these ultimate hypocrites and "restoring morality" is a big part of Making America Great Again. It's also not "tough" to smoke marijuana and their tough guy image is everything to these overcompensators. Expect even more insane laxness on gun laws and an equally insane "crackdown" (another thing this administration is going to just love doing) on marijuana, but then again we've elected a demonstrably insane madman. Thanks Republicans
     

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