Jesus was a Muslim by US Religious professor part 2

When it comes to women they do.

 

Of course they are, they are a method of exerting social control. In their cultural context they do not insult family honour but restore it. Read up on it. If women became emancipated as has happened in th West, in Muslim societies, then Islamic societies would no longer be Islamic but Western. Social control of particularly women is essential for the existance of an Islamic society. You sure bet Muslim women becoming too western causes mass grief and chaos on the streets and elsewhere! Just look at the threat in Egypt or what happens in Pakistan.

You stated that Sharia was mixed with interpretations, I replied it couldn't be. What you state now is not what you stated before.

 

Hardly, however maybe I mixed up the examples, were you referring to the Somalian case not the Yazidi one as you wrote she was a little girl and in the Somalian case the victim was 13 as opposed to 17 in the other?

 

Could be coz you didnt know the term was derived from mule , offensive to some but not to others , same as the term Nlgger or half-breed or Mamzer.

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Pot - looking for a kettle ?


That's fukking hilarious , I'm yet to read a post from you which was fair minded / impartial and not out to bash /denigrate/demonise muslims + Arabs in general..

btw - I've never heard/read Cass making out anyone to be "angels " .

If you wish carry on a discussion , then do try accepting the fact that other people are not under any obligation to agree with your opinions - agree to disagree, without sounding like an irritated old hag.


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You should consider taking your own advice, Marlowe. You sound like an irritated old hypocritical hag...

 

At that time it wasn't generally considered offensive, I'm not even sure it is today. I was aware that was one idea about its origin. However I very much doubt many backpackers coming from Denmark would feel insulted then or today even those of mixed race. It takes the right social context for such a word to be perceived as an insult and indeed when that context becomes history the term gains a quaint attribute due to it and can in fact be used with pride. This process can even be used to try to force social change for example with the slutwalk protests.

Can I assume that you would felt insulted if you had the same experience as I did?

 

Trolling again, are you ?

 

Well you are in the Cassandrabandra camp and I was deliberately referring to the context as she likes to mould it to fit her argument always accusing me of taking her words out of context.

Hmmm, well maybe you can explain how I was bashing /denigrating/demonising muslims + Arabs in general in my last post? I know, I was hinting at the alternative Arab origins to the "M" word.....

You obviously didn't get it either.

I take that comment as a sure sign that your camp has nothing left other than resorting to such.

 

Somehow , since I'm in a foreign land , , I'd diplomatically try educatiing whoever used it learn the term's definition.
(wink)

btw - There are several posters here , the pro-Israel camp , who remind me of mules . Mules try their best to imitate a donkey's bray, most have a unique sound that is a combination of the horse's whinny and the grunting of the wind-down of a bray. Whinee.....and end in "-aw ah aw". Whenever they're confronted with some facts abt Israeli's dastardly deeds , they then end whining abt the Holocaust , anti-semitism , Jewish persecution - blah - blah -bal-lah .


cheers.


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How exactly would you try to diplomatically educate a Philippine soldier in his native toungue on the definition of imported foreign words? Western swaggers like you in the Philippines make me clench my toes and hide my face....

Actually its your camp leader Abu who's the donkey by his own definition. Israel blah Israel blah........

 

she looked Arab to me. maybe she was Egyptian? definitely not Somalian

 

This is Du’a Khalil Aswad, an Iraqi Kurd, a Yazidi. Not an Arab nor a Muslim and not a little girl:



This is Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow, a Somalian rape victim, a muslim, not an Arab, a 13 year girl:

 

Neither. did you see the link I posted? the girl on the link LOOKS Arab

 

Swaggers ? - Hmmm - are you' again using a word you apparently dont know the meaning of ?.

I've not been to Philipines , but have to several others where the average citizen didnt speak english- part Africa - sth east Asia and ME .

However during a stint in Saudi - parts of the contract was to over work of a Filipino team (roughly 20) each spoke adequate/understandable english . never had any communication difficulties.

As for the Filipino soldier , I'm sure I'd have found a humourous way of making myself understood. even if I had to draw a mule. (wink)

btw - there are some fair skinned Filipinos , i.e. mixed parentage. But with my fair hair there'd be no mistaken identity.


cheers.


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Question.

What is specifically meant when someone talks about 'orthodox', that sort of implies that there is an 'unorthodox'.

What in essence, does in mean? Do you mean they are religously obesevant, and strictly so, that is to say, they are religous Jews, rather than 'atheist' Jews?

Is an orthodox Jew more likely to be a Sephidic Jew, an Ashkenazi Jew or what?

Is a Hassidic Jew an orthodox Jew?

 

Again? A swagger is someone who is arrogant, conceited, haughty for example an Englishman in the Philippines seeing it as his purpose to educate Filipinos in the use of words they have the gall to import into their language.

The average Filipinoi speaks English but what has this to do with your travels to lands where the average person doesn't speak English? The soldier naturally spoke Tagalog to me.

I didn't imagine there could be a case of "mistaken identity" with me either. Wrong, Filipinos skin complexion varies as much as Europeans hair colour even within the same family. Its the hair colour and other features which gives the game away, still I was mistaken for a Filipino of mixed parentage just as you could be in the same circumstances.

 

Nope, they don't, and in actual fact, if you really wanted to be accurate you would say that, historically, all three of the desert religions have a shocking history of degrading actions towards women.

That is not opinion, it is a matter of fact, so, in reality, none of the desert religions can get all high and mighty over the other, when it comes to treatment of females. In some instances, it is even mandated, the OT for example is a book that is horrific toward females.

There is no use try to single out one, the bottom line is that the three were founded at a time when women were like objects, with no rights.

None can be deemed better than the other, for all three are culpable, probably, as I say, because the creators of these religions saw women as lesser, and felt vindicated treating them so.

Even god is portrayed as being male, proof that the minds that created a god in their image, they naturally would make god male, and they naturally would write a book that vindicated the use of women as cattle, because that is what the men who wrote them were like.

 

Well no I didn't as I assumed it was video of Du’a Khalil Aswad murder or something similar and quite frankly I have problems watching such, not so much the brutality though that is bad enough but the fact that the victim and family have not given approval for public viewing.

However I have now opened your link and seen it is not such a video but a propaganda one. You confused me with "they" when the case in question in my post which you responded to, was that of Yazidis.

 

All true.

Natrually, owing to their charachter, they will never admit or see this.

How many times, on this thread, did I show real and serious abuses, by the wickle juice state, and what did the Jews do?

Silence. The very worse of human abuses, being carried out by a state they vote for, and not a one of them has a grain of humanity to find it within them to state it.

It's because they have no humanity in their heart, it's because they do not care, maybe, who knows, since the Zionists sneakily militarised the entire population, and it has always been that way, you could find they are silent on it because, by extension of them having served in some level of their military, they have, or even do take part in it.

That would certainly explain why they REFUSE to even acknowledge it, and would rather make silly lists, or speak about my sig, or what you had for breakfast, and how we focus too much on israel, and not enough on Atilla the hun, who did bad things too.

Jack

I would not compare them to mules though.

Most Zionist Jews are like packs of wild dogs, that is their nature.

They spend a lot of money on things like Brand israel, and trying to convince they world that they are 'civlised' and 'cultured'.

Intelligent people are not fooled, intelligent people can see that's just yet another dishonest ploy.

It is quite a simply a facade, and a false front, while they point the finger at perceived savagery in gentiles, all gentiles get tarred with their slander stick, not just DEM MOOZLIMS, ALL non Jews have and do, while they do that, they are, esp in proportion to their number, the true savages.

Look mate, you know what the Zionist Jew is today, and has been, for as long as you began to get educated in this.

Manipulative, liars, deceivers, playing one nation off against another, bringing third parties into conflicts, to swing conflicts one way or the other, then, like doing a deal with the devil, the devil returns, and asks for his side of the bargain to be paid.

And what do they non Jew traitors usually sell? Their own nation down the river, their 'soul', if you wish to put it that way.

You can see the nature of the Zionist Jew, it is consistantly as I describe, they lie, they cheat, they steal, they evade, they make good people into bad people, they reward bad people, etc etc..

What they whine about as being 'anti semitism', is merely a natural and widespread disgust for their actions, but since they never take personal resp for this, and since they never know when to stop being obnoxious, they think it cannot be them...so it must be everyone else.

In the end, the non Jew that is curious, they do not need to believe you or I.

But they can believe their own eyes.

And no amount of Hasbara and Brand Israel is going to dupe people, forever.

 

Um, no.

I personally know quite a few Muslim- non-Muslim couples. As well as couples who later converted. Nobody killed anybody or shunned anybody or disowned anybody.

But did you even bother reading my post? This response made absolutely no sense and I cannot even try to take you seriously anymore.

I can't stress enough that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is my post.

You response disproved your own point pol

 

yep. you've got to wonder where people get their ideas. I know plenty of Muslims who have non Muslim partners - including muslim women married to atheists, hindus and christians ...

doesn't seem to be any issue. sometimes the grandparents can be a bit of a pain - wanting the kids to be brought up in the religion - but hey - I've met plenty of non muslim grandparents exactly the same.

 

Du'a Khalil Awsad was 17. by definition, still legally a child.

Both cases are shocking.

both cases highlight that there is a long way to go in the area of women's rights in Northern Iraq and in Somalia. And there are other parts of the world where this is true as well. Many of these areas are places where Islam is the dominant religion, but these practices are certainly not universal in countries where Islam is the dominant religion.

To pretend that this is TYPICAL of Islam in this day and age is deliberately deceitful.

 

well no, not to a danish person. and if I called you a n!gger you wouldn't mind either.

but to use either of these terms in the context of a person of mixed African/european descent is derogatory.

it is all about context.

 

can you point me to a post of yours where the focus is NOT denigrating muslims (apart from those which are thinly veiled attacks on those who regard Muslims as fellow human beings)?

and also - a post of mine where I make Muslims out to be angels?