Jewelry store sign prompts same-sex couple to ask for refund

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  1. Nunya D.

    Nunya D. Well-Known Member

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    Would they be bullies if they post hateful things on the store's Facebook page? Trying to "convince" the owner to let the couple out of their contractual obligation becasue they do not agree with his beliefs?

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfo...s-same-sex-couple-to-ask-for-refund-1.3077192
     
  2. Nunya D.

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    The sign said nothing about homosexuality. It's actual wording was "The Sanctity of Marriage is Under Attack". A person can support their idea of what sanctity of marriage means without being against homosexuality.
     
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    You are stealing the man's labor.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  4. JavisBeason

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    gays feel bullying is ok, so long as it's for the gay agenda.... just ask these highschool kids who dared to think differently....

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/02/09/students-opposed-to-lgbt-agenda-shamed-in-classroom.html

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    oh that's ok... because [insert example of when a 'Christian' sent hate mail, death threats]

    it's already been used to justify boycotts..... "because Christians did it..."

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    why is it propaganda? because you don't agree with it?
     
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    Its people's business because its a societal topic that gets lots of news coverage.

    "Someone else's marriage is none of your business."
    According to this ridiculous statement then "What someone thinks about gay marriage" is none of your business.
    Of course which is wrong; everyone's entitled to their opinion.

    To categorize those who think gay marriage should remain "that between a man and a woman" as "disliking gays" is as nonsensical as asserting "those who favor gay marriage" dislike heterosexuals. Its a juvenile and shallow way of stating "you disagree with me, therefore you MUST dislike gays."
     
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    or they were meaning, they wouldn't have put that guy in such a bad predicament, knowing that the bloodlust will have the gay community turn on their own for doing the right thing.
     
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    we are still speaking about Cruz here right?

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    it's not a bible quote was my point.... it was anti-homosexual propaganda
     
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    Where exactly did the store owner state they were against homosexuality?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why did you cut the quote short? the full quote was "The sanctity of marriage is under attack. Let's keep marriage between a man and a woman."
     
  11. JavisBeason

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    why? because you don't agree with it? As a Christian, I'm allowed to have any opinion I choose, even if it's not in the bible. incest for example. I don't object to it because the Bible condemns it. I don't support it either, even though the Bible has countless examples of incest... and polygomy, even adultery and murder, etc.
     
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    So what. Just because someone supports one thing, that does not mean they are automatically against another. Supporting traditional marriage does not mean someone is against homosexuality. It just means they support traditional marriage.

    In regards to 'cutting the quote short', sorry, I couldn't read the fine print:

    anti-gay-marriage-sign-posted-in-today-s-jewellers.jpg
     
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    and why is that propaganda..... just because you don't agree is not a valid answer
     
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    yes, one can post descriminatory quotes like the one below in their business, but it's bad for business imo

    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/loving.html

    "Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And, but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriage. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix."
    -Judge Leon M. Bazile (January 6, 1959)
     
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    Sorry, but no- it means they are against same sex marriage, and therefore feel same sex couples are not deserving of being treated fairly and equally under the law. That's what it means.
     
  16. Nunya D.

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    Well, I'm sure that is how some people view it. However, that is a logical fallacy. People have support traditional things all throughout time. It does not mean they oppose something else. Some feel that changing traditional marriage is a 'slippery slope" that could have unintended consequences. Polygamy. Marriage between father-daughter. Maybe even pedophilia if it ever consider acceptable in society.

    In regards to being "under the law", that is still debatable. Seeing as how it is still being argued in court, that question has not been completely answered.
     
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    they already can marry.... under the same set of qualifiers.... opposite gender, no more tahn one, not closely related. How is that NOT EQUAL?
     
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    So they take money from same sex couples and utilize the public infrastructure that same sex couples also pay for with their tax dollars, but this opinion needed to be publicized...why exactly?

    They have the right to express their opinion, but the same sex marriage supporters have all the right the world to express their opinion of this opinion.
     
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    I'm sure the jeweler will be more than happy for them to take their business elsewhere. I do find it amazing that a group that is demanding service from a business that does not support the way they choose to live their lives then turns around and demands a guy return money for services rendered because they don't support the way he chooses to live his life. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
     
  20. Nunya D.

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    And what does this have to do with anything????

    Why not? Are we now only allowed to express our opinions if those opinions are popular? It is his store, he can do what he wants within the bounds of legality.

    Yep, but that does not mean people are justified to harass him on the store's Facebook page....and it does not give the couple grounds to get their money back.
     
  21. dairyair

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    Must have been somewhat a secret. He only put the sign up for Mother's day, according to the story.
    Not saying he purposely kept it a secret, just wasn't posted when the girls were buying their rings.

    And they could do that and may be one of their options.

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    I didn't say they did. Most times if a jeweler has to give a refund, there is a part that can not be returned and is set in the story policy.
    So you don't really have to be all emotional.
     
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    There is no sin, if one isn't a christian. So they don't have to stop if they are not a christian.
    And sexual urges can not be stopped at the blink of an eye. Hell, divorced bigots have to remarry and live an adulterous life style because they need sex.

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    So now your understand perfectly the mind of the girls and their feelings.
     
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    So, someone doesn't agree with the owner of a business, and thus decides not to do business with them?

    This is how capitalism is supposed to work! This is the stuff that you're supposed to be in favour of! Why are you objecting to the very thing that defines proper capitalism?

    Of course, we all know the answer; bigotry, but I thought the question sort of needed to be posed anyway, for science.
     
  24. dairyair

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    My response was to someone who was asking if it was ok to return something to his auto mechanic. He said he would have no right.
    Not related to the story. Someone attempting a strawman.

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    Sure. But I'd be willing to bet all posting were not gay.
     
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    Yes, you can have your opinion about certain sins. And I can call adulterers or other sinners out as hypocrites when they want to bring christian into the topic.
     

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