Jewish criminal falls ill in North Korea, jewish newspaper invokes the "holocaust"

ForumPoster · Aug 15, 2017

The "American" jew Otto Warmbier, who was very active in the jewish community, decided one day that it would be a good idea to visit North Korea as a tourist. When he arrived in that country, he decided that it would be a good idea to steal a poster from his hotel. He was caught and sentenced to 15 years in prison.

A couple of months after his imprisonment, Warmbier fell into a coma. The US government demanded his release, and North Korea complied. Shortly after his return to the United States, Warmbier died without regaining consciousness, and now the jewish author and political and cultural commentator Bethany Mandel is angry and agitates against North Korea, and she even invokes the "holocaust" in The Jewish Daily Forward:

After Otto Warmbier, It’s Time To Say ‘Never Again’ About North Korea

This week, with the death of one of our own, American Jews can no longer claim ignorance of the atrocities taking place in North Korea. Monday, June 19, saw the tragic loss of Otto Warmbier, a 22-year -old college student from Ohio, dead at the hands of the North Korean government, guilty of the “crime” of stealing a poster from his hotel room (…) In the years since the gas chambers of Auschwitz closed, humanity has witnessed the longest-running human rights catastrophe in human history. We have chosen to remain silent. (…) While the United Nations time and again commits to set its aim on Israel, little notice is paid to the continuous human rights violations in the “Hermit Kingdom.” (…) More than most, the Jewish community has been active and outspoken about human rights violations across the world, and, more than most, it is up to us to speak out.
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http://forward.com/opinion/world/37...ts-time-to-say-never-again-about-north-korea/

I have the following questions for my fellow PF members:

1. Should America go to war with North Korea to avenge the jew Otto Warmbier who decided that it would be a good idea to travel to North Korea and commit a crime there?

2. Do you think it's right of Mandel to use the "holocaust" as a weapon against North Korea?

3. Is it right of Mandel to try to whitewash Israel's countless war crimes by basically saying "North Korea is worse, so get off Israel's back"?

As always, all opinions are welcome.

ForumPoster · Aug 15, 2017

From the jewish news site JTA:

Otto Warmbier, American student released from North Korea, was active in Hillel

Otto Warmbier, the University of Virginia student imprisoned by North Korea who remains in a coma since his release this week, was active at the campus Hillel and cared deeply about the Jewish community, its rabbi recalls. (…) A 2014 Birthright mission to Israel, where Warmbier received a Hebrew name during a hike to Masada, left a strong impression on the young man. Following the trip, he became involved with the Jewish community on campus.
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http://www.jta.org/2017/06/16/news-...eleased-from-north-korea-was-active-in-hillel

ForumPoster · Aug 16, 2017

From Times of Israel:

Otto Warmbier’s family kept his Jewishness under wraps while North Korea held him hostage

The family of Otto Warmbier, the American college student who died on Monday, days after his release from 17 months of captivity in North Korea, was advised to keep his Jewish background and identity concealed while officials tried to negotiate his release.

That was because the North Korean justification for his imprisonment centered on a dubious claim that Warmbier had stolen a propaganda poster in a Pyongyang hotel lobby on orders from the Friendship United Methodist Church in Wyoming, Ohio, to bring it back “as a trophy” in exchange for a used car worth $10,000.
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/otto-w...der-wraps-while-north-korea-held-him-hostage/

The "Western" media didn't want to reveal Warmbier's jewish origin...so they let Christians take the blame? Interesting...

Brewskier · Aug 16, 2017

Interesting how they are only told to get involved after "one of (their) own" is victimized. Really underscores how tribal their thinking is. The very same kind of thinking they try to discourage Europeans from engaging in.

ForumPoster · Aug 16, 2017

Brewskier said: ↑

Interesting how they are only told to get involved after "one of (their) own" is victimized. Really underscores how tribal their thinking is. The very same kind of thinking they try to discourage Europeans from engaging in.
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Exactly, and it's not just "American" jews who think this way; you will find the same mentality among "European" jews. I'm not being "antisemitic" here, I'm just telling our readers what prominent jews say.

ForumPoster · Aug 16, 2017

The famous anti-zionist jew Gilad Atzmon has written an interesting article about Warmbier:

Was Otto Warmbier an American Student or an Israeli Spy?

Was Warmbier an Israeli spy? Who knows, but it is likely that someone in North Korea thought he was.

We know that Israel and North Korea are extremely hostile towards each other. North Korea has never recognised the Jewish State and in 1988 it recognised the State of Palestine as including all of Israel. Israel often accuses North Korea of trading arms with Hamas and Syria.

Peculiarly, not a single MSM outlet has referred to Warmbier's ties with Israel. Until his last hours, Israel and the Jewish community kept silent about Warmbier’s Jewish identity, his Zionist affiliation and his visit to Israel. Maybe this silence is more revealing than anything else.
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http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2017/6/22/was-otto-warmbier-an-american-student-or-an-israeli-spy

ForumPoster · Aug 17, 2017

Thousands gather to mourn US Jewish student imprisoned in North Korea

His former soccer coach, Steve Thomas, said Warmbier came from a religious family and was involved in mission trips and a Birthright trip to Israel.
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/family...l-of-us-jewish-student-imprisoned-in-n-korea/

ForumPoster · Aug 26, 2017

Dear readers, I would like you to keep in mind that the jew Warmbier belonged to Hillel, an organization that's composed of jewish supremacist thugs who patrol US campuses and harass students and lecturers who are critical of the racist, genocidal bandit state of Israel.

Apparently, Warmbier really loved being a member of Hillel. I guess he felt safe and comfortable when he was surrounded by a large group of like-minded jew thugs. Well, he didn't look very comfortable in North Korea, when he was about to face justice for his crime.

ForumPoster · Aug 27, 2017

Warmbier, whose mother is Jewish, became active in the Hillel after a Birthright trip to Israel, during which he received a Hebrew name. A spokesman for the family said this week that they chose not to disclose his Judaism during negotiations for his release so as not to antagonize North Korea. (…) U.S. Sen. Rob Portman, a Republican from the Cincinnati area, told reporters outside that North Korea must be held accountable for Warmbier’s detention and death. (…) “This college kid never should have been detained in the first place,” said Portman, who met secretly with North Korean officials in New York last December to press for Warmbier’s release.
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http://www.jta.org/2017/06/23/news-...st-intellectually-curious-people-ive-ever-met

“This college kid never should have been detained in the first place,” said Portman...

Really, senator? This jew committed theft. He stole something, i.e. he took something that didn't belong to him. This is a crime in the US too. It's a crime in all Western countries. Sure, one could argue that 15 years in prison is too harsh a sentence, but to say that Warm-beer shouldn't have been detained is ridiculous.

ForumPoster · Aug 31, 2017

From the Jerusalem Post:

North Korea threatens Israel with 'merciless, thousand-fold punishment'

Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman hurt the "dignity of the supreme leadership" of North Korea, state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) reported Saturday. The comment was in reaction to Israeli remarks on how the Jewish State is affected by North Korean tension with the United States. In an interview with Hebrew news site Walla this week, the hawkish Liberman stated that North Korea’s leader Kim Jong-un is a madman and that together with the leaders of Iran and Syria was part of an “insane and radical” gang that was bent on undermining international stability.
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http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/No...ith-merciless-thousand-fold-punishment-489316

In reality, it's Israel that's the biggest threat to world peace:

The Samson Option is the name that some military analysts and authors have given to Israel's deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against a country whose military has destroyed much of Israel.
(…)
In the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Arab forces were overwhelming Israeli forces and Prime Minister Golda Meir authorized a nuclear alert and ordered 13 atomic bombs be readied for use by missiles and aircraft. The Israeli Ambassador warned President Nixon of "very serious conclusions" if the United States did not airlift supplies. Nixon complied. This is seen by some commentators on the subject as the first threat of the use of the Samson Option.[18][19][20][21][22]
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We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[31]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

ForumPoster · Sep 8, 2017

Many jews hate North Korea because it has condemned Israel's genocide against the Palestinians.

Israeli-North Korean relations (Korean: 이스라엘-조선민주주의인민공화국 관계) are very hostile,[1] and North Korea has never recognized the state of Israel, denouncing it as an "imperialist satellite".[2] Since 1988 it recognises the sovereignty of the State of Palestine over all of Israel, except for the Golan Heights, which it recognises as part of Syria. Israel considers North Korea and its nuclear missile program as a major threat to global security. It has called for international action on the issue. At times, Israel has been the subject of fiery threats from North Korean state media.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–North_Korea_relations

ForumPoster · Nov 4, 2017

From Israel National News:

Meet the Jew who may bomb North Korea

Of all the Jews in the world, the one who controls the greatest firepower is not necessarily Binyamin Netanyahu or the current commander of Israel's Air Force. It appears the distinction is held by the Chief of Staff of the US Air Force, General David Goldfein.
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/237098

David Lee Goldfein (born 1959) is a General in the United States Air Force who currently serves as the Air Force Chief of Staff. Before, he served as Air Force Vice Chief of Staff. He was previously Director of the Joint Staff, a position within the Joint Chiefs of Staff who assists the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.[1] On April 26, 2016, it was announced that Goldfein was nominated to succeed General Mark Welsh as the 21st Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force. His confirmation hearing took place on June 16, and he succeeded Welsh on July 1, two days after his confirmation.[2] Gen Goldfein is the second Jewish U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff, after Gen Norton Schwartz, USAF (Ret).[3]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L._Goldfein

ForumPoster · Nov 17, 2017

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From a Salon article that was pulled because it was deemed offensive:

This might be America’s biggest idiot frat boy: Meet the UVa student who thought he could pull a prank in North Korea

“What were you expecting? Some Spring Break spot with a bunch of strip clubs?” Wilmore said. “Because North Korea’s version of ‘Girls Gone Wild’ is just middle-age women eating full rations of oatmeal.”

“North Korea isn’t a playground for college pranks, Kim Jong-un isn’t a fictional character from a Seth Rogen movie, and Pyongyang isn’t some game you play with Coors Light and Solo cups,” Wilmore continued. “It’s just tough for me to have much sympathy for this guy and his crocodile tears.”
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https://archive.is/fHaSN

ForumPoster · Nov 20, 2017

Sorry, folks. Wrong post.

Spooky · Nov 20, 2017

ForumPoster said: ↑

Exactly, and it's not just "American" jews who think this way; you will find the same mentality among "European" jews. I'm not being "antisemitic" here, I'm just telling our readers what prominent jews say.
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LOL

I'm sure you mean "some" prominent Jews right?

Otherwise they may be, well, anti-Semitic.

Spooky · Nov 20, 2017

ForumPoster said: ↑

From the Jerusalem Post:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/No...ith-merciless-thousand-fold-punishment-489316

In reality, it's Israel that's the biggest threat to world peace:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
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Uh huh.

That whole building houses thing is absolutely horrible!

That eclipses nuclear war any day of the week.

lol

Daggdag · Nov 20, 2017

Lets get a few things straight.

1; When the guy's religion wasn't public knowledge, and the media thought it was a Christian, the same conseratives were up in arms over his treatment by North Korea.

2; His illness, accoridng to many sources, came from inhumane treatment, including beatings, sleep deprivation, being deprived of food and water for weeks on end, and other such treatment.

3; Israel and most prominent figures in the Jewish community never said a word when he was thought to be a Christian. It only became an issue when he was revealed as a jew.

4; He didn't just "steal a poster". He was tearing down state propaganda posters, which in some cases is considered a capital offense in North Korea.

ForumPoster · Dec 9, 2017

Russia won’t be surprised by war in North Korea, it’s been preparing for it – Security Council head

A war breaking out on the Korean Peninsula is one of the scenarios considered by the Russian military, so it would not be blindsided in case it actually happens, the head of Russia’s Security Council said, advocating a diplomatic solution to the crisis. (...) Russia has repeatedly called on Washington, its allies and North Korea to back down from confrontation and accept a “double freeze” plan backed by China that would see the US and South Korea halting their large-scale drills and Pyongyang suspending its nuclear and ballistic program. Washington, however, refused to consider the plan
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https://www.rt.com/news/411504-russia-prepared-war-north-korea/

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