Jews Don’t Have a Right to Palestine

Israel exists despite the United Kingdom, not because of it. The invading Jordanian army in Israel's war of independence was trained, armed, and led by British officers.

Jews' right to self determination in Palestine has been established - as a matter of international law - at the San Remo Conference of 1920. The Document of the Mandate grants Jews the right to settle anywhere in Palestine west of the Jordan river.

 

despite josh's agreeable nature towards a purported "mighty righteous nazi nation", how exactly would this "alternate history" explain why european jewish ppl needed to be killed off?

 

Define "Palestinians".

Define "Semitic".

 

we did not have a right to America.... but might makes right... Israel is much more powerful then Palestine

that is the reality of it, Israel is growing and they need to expand, Palestine is in the way and they have a choice, stay and fight for their land and die... or move on... ask the American Indians how it worked out for them

not saying it's right or wrong... that is just the reality of it..

the only thing saving the Palestine from being wiped out is that Israel wants to keep their victim status and they woudl lose that if they committed genocide of the Palestines.. so they are trying to provoke them into a war they can't win

Palestine can't win this war... they need to realize that and move on with their lives

 

no, his post is showing that european jewish ppl are not descended from Israel. nothing mentioned about purity or race, i guess thats just your poor interpretation.

also im not aware of supposed descendants of biblical israel wanting to claim "jewishness" lol. jewishness is just some european schizm.

in fact jewishness is really an insulting word, think about it. not only do they merely pertain to jews (ish) but now you want to pigeon hole this likeness with some kind of homogeneous nature forsaking the very divided nature of israelis

 

religious Jews vs the genetic Jews from biblical times are two different things, not sure he gets that.. any race can be Jewish as that is a choice

kinda like new Israel vs the biblical Israel, not the same thing... just the same name

it can be confusing, but also pretty simple too

 

The San Reno conference established the administration of the former Ottoman Empire by the Allied Powers. It was a precursor to creating the British Mandate of Palestine and followed the Balfour declaration by the British government. Hence, the Israeli state was formed because of the United Kingdom.

Jews had long been moving to the area even under Ottoman rule.

 

In time of war both sides often treat members of those they are attempting to kill.

Your case does not imply that Israel has decided not to commit humanitarian atrocities on all those in Palestine. For example, they continue to bulldoze homes in ethnic cleansing operations and they continue to carry out perpetual war against Gaza, refusing to even consider settlement.

 

How many years does someone's ancestors have to be on a land to have a claim to it? What's the objective qualification? All our ancestors come from Africa. What percentage of what DNA has to come from an ancestors who **** on what land for it to count?

Nobody owns any land. It's all just made up. Israel exists because they are strong enough to hold it. That's the only real qualification.

 

It wouldn't and it would be unecessary at that point since there wouldn't be anyone left alive to care.

 

That's absolutely preposterous.

Ethnic cleansing is a humanitarian atrocity regardless of whether you manage to actually cause the total population of a region to decline.

You need to read up on what ethnic cleansing is.

 

It goes back further than that. Most of the Middle East was under the control of the Ottoman Empire, which chose the wrong side in WWI, so that the Middle East came under the power of the British after the war. It was the British who decided that the Jews needed a homeland and picked the ancient territories of Israel and Judah to be it. Perhaps if the British had been more forceful in creating Israel in 1920, enough European Jews would have moved that the Holocaust wouldn't have happened.

 

This only covers the Ashkenazi Jews. The Russian, Spanish, and other Jews are not Germanic. And this runs counter to the other evidence that Jews and Arabs are both still Aramaic, and that even the African Jews can be found to trace back to Aramaic ancestors. Are African Jews black? Of course. Are European Jews white? Of course. That doesn't make them not Jews. Yiddish has been long abandoned in Israel, by the way, in favor of a revived Hebrew. You're more likely to hear Yiddish in New York than in Jerusalem.

 

Over the last two decades the leadership of West Bank has worked closely with the IDF to oppose violence. President Abbas has gotten praise from the IDF as their primary partner in peace.

Time and again, Abbas proves that his approach to ending the humanitarian atrocity of Israel against his people is strictly diplomatic. He has subjected Palestine to the World Court and has gotten Palestine certified by the UNSC as a legitimate state. He has worked to end Hamas control of Gaza - work that Netanyahu has opposed, by the way.

Beyond that, your assumption that I have some personal connection to anyone in ANY ME state is just your blunder.

What I care about is America. WE support the ethnic cleansing carried out by Israel.

That is a demonstration that we don't believe in the rule of law, that our humanitarianism is purely political opportunism.

And, the result is that the states of the ME can not believe the US supports the values we proclaim.

When Egypt had its revolution, US ideas were rejected outright, because they came from the US, and the US supported the regime in power and because they see what we do in the region.

Our support of Israeli criminal behavior costs American influence throughout the world. Even the head of Mossad a few years back stated that Israeli policy was one of America's serious foreign policy problems.


America needs to start operating on the basis of what we CLAIM to stand for - those principles in our founding documents.

 

None of this touches the fact that Israel has been ethnically cleansing Palestine.

The 1967 border was certainly NOT what Palestinians wanted, but it became recognized as what they would need to accept.

Since then, Israel has invaded and is ruling West Bank with mercenary support for its own military law. And, it has been bulldozing Palestinian homes and farmland, stealing water rights and building walls criss crossing the state of Palestine.

 

I'm pretty sure that Russian Jews are Ashkenazi Jews and those in Spain are Sephardi Jews. In WWII it was Ashkenazi Jews who were killed in the concentration camps. It is Mizrahi Jews who are native to the Middle East.

 

Ain't no landmarks on a map; and even actual landmarks count for nothing unless they mark the borders of a country, which did not exist in the region called Palestine when the Israelis claimed ownership.

 

Semitic = those of Semitic ancestry - The Sumerians were Semitic people
Palestinians - Semitic people who have long roots in Palestine.

 

What on earth are you talking about - I said nothing about Jesus.

2) That people occupied some land 2000 years ago for a period of time .. does not give them rights to the land.

That you claim this is "anti Semitic" is laughable idiocy.

 

Apparently not, since they lost and are irrelevant. And the concept might makes right only goes as far as who controls and has right to a particular piece of territory, not to who has the moral high ground.

 

Laughed at “Your sense of justice is positively twisted”

 

Seems that while the Jews were an easy going people, they learned from WWII that if you don't want to be slaughtered, you must learn to kick-ass. They learned well, and gave the world a lesson in how war should be fought. Unfortunately, we didn't learn and continued to conduct our wars as endless exercises in compromise...

 

"anti-Semitism" means hatred of Jews.

its a Neologism.

unless you think a "Lesbian" is someone from the Greek Isle of Lesbos.

LOLOL!!!!

 

Once again, we are talking about who has rights to territory. So calm down with your "He's a nazi/slaver/genocidal maniac hyperbole. It makes you sound silly.

 

And he responded to a poster who's argument was might makes right.
Might does not make right. That is a logical fallacy. Might makes things possible, nothing more