Jews Take Note: Dems Not That Into You

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    dodge duly noted! :truce:
    Yes lil mike that was your moment of truth and you failed spectacularly.

    I'll take your answer as a resounding, No.

    Thanks for exposing the truth buddy
     
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    I agree completely, and find it refreshing to find an American conservative with that view.
     
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  3. Zorro

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    'WHY IS HIGHER EDUCATION SUCH A CESSPIT OF ANTISEMITISM?' House committee opens investigation into Rutgers University over ‘pervasiveness of antisemitism on its campuses.’

    'House Education and the Workforce Committee Chairwoman Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) announced she opened an investigation into Rutgers University over its response to anti-Semitism on campus.'

    'Foxx wrote that Students for Justice in Palestine at Rutgers has received over $20,000 from its student government.'

    That's a racist organization, so why are they getting over $20K?

    'The pro-Palestinian group also received 8,682.70 for two events listed as “pinkwashing information session” in 2023,along with another $884.00 designated for organizational maintenance.'

    What the hell is "organizational maintenance'?

    'the SJP chapter has ”repeatedly engaged in antisemitic harassment and disruptions of student life and learning at the university.”'

    No student should be subjected to that.

    'The SJP chapter was suspended in December 2023, only to be reinstated in January.'

    Most of that was semester break.

    'When the group was reinstated, SJP members said during a press conference that “dying as a martyr, dying as a hero is one of the greatest sacrifices you can do as a Palestinian and as a Muslim...say it loud, say it clear, we don’t want Zionists here.”'

    SJP sounds like a hate group.

    'Rutgers student Joe J. Gindi said during a committee roundtable on Feb. 29 that ”Jew-hatred has become rampant at Rutgers University.”'

    ”And it has become clear that some members of the school’s administration and faculty are complicit in allowing—and even in encouraging—this hate to grow,” Gindi said. “at Rutgers University—like at many other campuses—there appears to be selective enforcement of [University] rules. They just don’t seem to apply when it comes to protecting Jewish students.”

    Yeah, that's been noticed.
     
  4. Pisa

    Pisa Well-Known Member

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    Do you really believe that the US just gives Israel money without getting anything in return?

    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org...benefits-why-us-israeli-alliance-good-america

    The American aid is often used to exert pressure on Israel, however. Israel, not the US, would be better off without it.
     
  5. Pisa

    Pisa Well-Known Member

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    Anti-Zionists have hijacked the civil rights and social justice movements in the US.

    Though many call them pro-Palestinians, they never really care about Palestinians. Their wet dream is the total annihilation of the Jewish state. That's why I call them anti-Zionists.
     
  6. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hamas is made up of Palestinians.
    Zionists are Jews as is the IDF and Netanyahu's regime.
    Israel is a Jewish-supremacist state advancing the interests of Jews over those of indigenous Palestinians.
    Which side is better, the one inflicting an illegal occupation of Palestine or the one resisting that occupation?
     
  7. georgephillip

    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because Hamas in spite of its religious fundamentalism resists an illegal military IDF occupation that could not happen without US assistance.

    October 7th was a legal response to that illegitimate occupation even though war crimes were committed during its execution.

    When Israel ends their collective punishment, ethnic cleansing, and genocide in Palestine, Hamas will no longer have any reason to resist.
     
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    georgephillip Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your link makes no mention of Israel's use of deliberate starvation as a weapon of war; why do you think its author ignored that particular war crime?

    As far as your hasbara about the integrity of the IDF...:deadhorse:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_c...cational facilities, and entire neighborhoods.

    "Numerous charges of war crimes have been levied against Israel for its actions against civilians.

    "These charges have come from Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, B'tselem, and human rights groups and experts, including UN rapporteurs.[92]

    "Antony Blinken indicated the Biden administration has a 'high tolerance' for whatever happens in Gaza.[93]

    "On 27 October, the White House stated it had no red lines for Israeli actions.[94][

    "In the first week of the war, the IDF carried out 6,000 airstrikes across Gaza, killing over 3,300 civilians and injuring over 12,000.[96][97]

    "The strikes hit specifically protected locations, including hospitals, markets, refugee camps, mosques, educational facilities, and entire neighborhoods.[98]

    "A group of UN special rapporteurs asserted that Israel's airstrikes are indiscriminate, stating that the airstrikes are "absolutely prohibited under international law and amounts to a war crime'.[99

    "Israeli army spokesperson Daniel Hagari said that 'the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy'"
     
  9. FatBack

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    Legal response my ass..... There's nothing remotely legal about attacking a bunch of children at a concert
     
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  10. Esau

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    1. They weren't children. (Fyi, only one child was recorded as having died that day and she was blown up by a tank shells according to eyewitness, y@smin por@t.

    2. The nova festival was not the target. It was actually moved to this location on the day before the attack and was on the planned hamas route to the military compounds within various kibbutz'. There is another conspiracy for you: did mossad know about the attack and deliberately move the nova festival to be right in hamas' way? Human shields?

    Many israelis do in fact believe netandyahoo knew this attack was imminent but allowed it to happen so he could send IDF into gaza to wipe out palestine
     
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    I've failed many "moments of truth" from tin foil hat conspiracy theorists who have nonsensical rants about incomprehensible things that make sense in their heads, but once leave there for the real world sound simply like chaotic ramblings.

    As you are the only example I'm familiar with of the particular breed known as "White Hotep" I don't really have much to go on in trying to translate your particular rantings into some sort of coherent statement.

    Sorry!
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    There is zero media attention to that view (and many others).
     
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  13. Lil Mike

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    I realize there are lots of military links and joint projects between our two countries. I wasn't counting that. I was referring to what is referred to as "aid packages" for Israel that don't seem to be linked to any particular need. As a taxpayer, my question is why Israel, a rich country, is the single largest recipient of US aid? What am I funding and why?

    I simply can't justify it beyond joint projects like missile defense.

    In any case, I agree that the US would be better off without aid to Israel and you think Israel would be better off without US aid to Israel so it seems we agree.
     
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  14. Jolly Penguin

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    Yes, but there are Jews opposed to Israel's actions and there are Palestinians opposed to Hamas'. We should be very mindful not to generalize. We should also be very mindful not to fall into complete tribalism and declare Netanyahu/Hamas good because the other does bad.
     
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    Intellectually lazy? Ha!

    When do you join up with Schumer to give the leadership of Hamas a pass? If you leave them in place, they will be back. They are still holding hostages. They have only offered to give back less than 100 hostages in exchange for 700+ of their supporters, including cut throat murderers. They hide in a hospital because they know the world will say going after them is off limits. So they commit uncivilized acts and use the values of civilization to shield them from justice.

    Hamas ends up with a reward for their acts of terrorism. They get their cut throat terrorist warriors returned. Hamas has never acknowledged the butchery of what they did on October 7. Yet, you line up with Schumer who has betrayed his race.
     
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    For 50 years Jewish American voting for DEMS by 70%.

    upload_2024-3-30_8-47-21.png
    Anyone thinks one poll or 2 polls say differently will change the 50 years trajectory has ZERO idea how politics works.

    But if I am Trump supporter and I see inevitable defeat in November, every good news is monumental.

    So I do realize why create thread like this. after all hope is a good medicine for the soul.
     

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    I agree with most of the things you said. Hamas has to go. There is no negotiation with them.

    Schumer didn’t say anything to support Hamas. Schumer said Bibi needs to go. He is causing more harm to long term Israeli policy then help. If that is betraying his race then 85% Israelis are betraying their race. 85% Israelis don’t support Bibi.
     
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    I don’t think it has anything to do with “woke” but lack of understanding of Islamic extremism or lack of understanding of Islam itself.

    Many of my fellow liberals thinks if America has more balanced / unbiased policy in Middel East, if American policy between Arab Muslim and Israel were more balanced. If America didn’t support dictators in ME but side with regular Muslims , things would be different.

    What my fellow liberals don’t understand that this f$$$ Islamic Jihadist don’t give a s$$$ what we do. we can give everything to Arab Muslim. We can band backward and do what they want, yet this jihadist will kill us. Islam is very clear – kill every Jews, kill infidel and get 70 virgins. Arab Muslim wants 6th century Islamic Caliphate. Anything less is not acceptable to them. Unfortunately liberals in the west don’t understand this simple truth.
     
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    LMFreakinAO!
    Mischaracterized Bullshit Much?:roflol:

    The Poll was conducted by Siena in February.
    New York Jews now favor Trump over President Joe Biden 53 per cent to 44 per cent, according to the Siena College poll
    Jews made up just 8 per cent of the large sample of 806 people.
    That means the margin of error for the 65 Jewish respondents would be potentially much larger than 4.2 percentage points.
    Mark Mellman, president of Democratic Majority for Israel, told JNS that “the margin of error for Jews in the Sienna poll is plus or minus 13 points on each number.”
    This poll tells us very little about how New York Jews will vote,” he said.

    FACTS:
    65 Jewish People were polled
    Of those 65 Jewish People:
    The Poll Claims that 53% Favor Trump to 44% for Biden
    53% of 65 = 34.5 (But let's round up to 35)
    44% of 65 = 28.6 (But let's round up to 29)
    The Current Estimated Jewish Population of New York is 1.77 Million.
    So, let me get this straight, I wouldn't want to miss anything.
    1% of 1.77 Million 17,700
    1/10 of 1% of 1.77 Million is 1,770
    1/100% of 1% of 1.77 Million is 177
    1/1000th of 1% (a number which represents 1 out of every 100,000 people) is 17.7.
    Thus, 35 (the number of people favoring Trump in the Siena poll which was cited):
    Represents 2 out of every 100,000 New York Jewish.
    ^And, based on that FACT, someone is making the claim that:
    'a majority of Jews in New York, one of the bluest of states, say they are likely to vote for Trump
    ***Give everybody a break with that egregiously mischaracterized BS!:roflol:

    Besides, April Fool's Day isn't here yet...:bored:
     
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    There is nothing legal about Israel's occupation of the Palestinian Territories.
    Hamas has a legal right under international law to violently resist Israel's military occupation.

    That doesn't mean Palestinian war crimes were not committed on October 7th including the events at the musical festival you mentioned.

    Hamas and allies blew ten holes in the barrier surrounding Gaza on October 7th.

    Most of the Islamist fighters who trained for this operation were back inside Gaza in about four hours; however, hundreds (at least) of untrained Palestinians flooded into Israel and engaged in serious revenge crimes that likely included murder, kidnapping, and rape.

    Which side do you blame for those crimes?
     
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    Yep, that's why Trump is so determined to deliver tax breaks for the working and middle class. Oh wait...
     
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    I think you're right about generalizing the policies of all sides in the Israel/Palestine conflict, but I wonder why legacy media coverage doesn't extend this principle the use of the word "terrorism" to describe IDF tactics as well those of Palestinians?

    https://ifamericansknew.org/history/terrorism.html

    "Where Israeli state terrorism is acknowledged in the United States, it is almost invariably described as 'retaliatory,' hence not criminal even if regrettable.

    "To cite only one example, consider the laudatory article by Amos Perlmutter on General Ariel Sharon in the New York Times Magazine. Commenting on Sharon's exploits as the commander of Unit 101 in the early 1950s."
     
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    That's real brave of you to bash that strawman over the head and pummel him to the ground.

    Any time you're happy to address my extremely pertinent question then I'll be happy to engage in intellectual debate but as of now, this proposition seems to be a bogey man that you outright refuse to engage with due to you safe zone being compromised.
     
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    Pisa is merely posturing. Israelis would be utterly routed if not for sugar daddy providing unlimited weapons.
     
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    Agreed. Assad killed hundreds of thousands, without a peep from these folks. All these folks want is a stick to beat Jews with. And given that, they haven't simply hijacked civil rights and social justice, they have destroyed them, for these movements now are bent on hate, racism, and the violent control of others.

    A restorative movement to recapture the vision and expel these vile haters, would not surprise me.
     
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