Jihadists now use ANY excuse to kill us.....including....BIKINIS!

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    Best post of the day (well, next to all my posts :) - just kidding)!
    Yes, great points. Yes, religion causes great suffering in the world.
     
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    It means you're taking something written so long ago, before education and science...so literally just like islamic radicals do.

    That's all it means.
     
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    No, we actually have more different interpretations of the Bible (over 40,000 different denominations), than we have VERSES IN THE BIBLE (31,000+-). That's because the Christian god is obviously not real, or he'd be a far far better communicator. I think a smart CHIMP could be a better communicator than the wacko god of the Bible is.
     
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    You clearly don't understand that most Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the immutable word of god.
     
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    When scientists disagree they have science supporting them. They have peer-reviewed studies on both sides.

    What peer reviewed studies do you have supporting you?
     
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    Muslims lack the moral courage, it seems, to improve the texts of their religion that says to harm gays. Christians, to be fair, are equally as morally lacking as Muslims are in this same vein.
     
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    They just don't kill them for kicks. Love the person not the sin.
     
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    This is not the point. People can believe what they like. The problem is those who do not understand the difference between 1) Having a belief and 2) forcing that belief on others.

    If one wants to follow Allah, YHWH, or Zeus in relation to personal beliefs - Fine "I don't care". When I care is what that person tries to force their beliefs on me through physical violence (Law) or holy Jihad.

    Many Muslims (not the majority but many) do not believe in forcing their religious beliefs on others. This is the distinction between an Muslim and an Islamist.

    The Islamist has no respect for individual liberty - they want to force religious beliefs on others (sharia) through violence (Law).
     
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    When one can show me that God/Thanos/Thor/Frodo have different courtroom level of evidence for them then I might agree with you. But today they have exactly the SAME level of evidence.

    PS I don't rely on authority the way religious people do - I can think for myself more than religious people do.
     
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    But Christians lack the moral courage to remove from the Bible, or condemn God/Jesus for his policy, per 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, that says that gays (no matter how ethical) can't get into heaven. Modern Secular Humanists, on the other hand, are far more ethical than Christians/Muslims.
     
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    So you are admitting you have zero scientific studies or research to back up your claims?

    So you are putting your unscientific worldwide ahead of established, well-researched, peer-reviewed science. Just like a theist does.
     
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    Modern Secular Humanists only invitation is 6' under and their God is man.
     
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    Why do you lack the moral courage to remove the line from the Constitution saying non-whites are only 3/5ths a person?
     
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    So the non-Islamist Muslim will improve the texts of their religion to take away ammo for future Islamists....right? I would, because I believe I'm more ethical than Muslims are. How about you?
     
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    I've admitted that Constitution got it wrong – most Christians and Muslims won't even admit that god got stuff wrong, however – by admitting that the BIBLE/QUR’AN are wrong. Big difference.
     
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    We have no "god". We believe in love.
     
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    YES, it is the point, and it's a good one.
     
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    Right, no God so man is the highest power, which led to some of the most horrific and murderous periods in mans past.
     
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    Changing the text would be a good thing ... or just getting rid of that religion all together.

    Absolutely I am more ethical than Muslims - simply on the basis that my code is based on logic and reason rather than belief in the tooth fairy .. and some human interpretation of a book that some human wrote that they claim was based on the tooth fairy.
     
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    But you don’t have the moral courage to remove it?

    Why won’t you hold yourself to the same moral standard you demand of others?
     
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    This was a lame response. You normally do better so I will forgive you - as Jesus says :)
     
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    MODERN Secular Humanism does not bring forward the communist/authoritarian beliefs of those barbarians - we believe in representative republics. Big difference.
    However, Jesus/Moses/Mohammad were not smart enough to understand that representative republics are the cornerstone of a great nation. They were fools - or at least not divine or divinely inspired. Buddha didn't understand this, either.
     
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    The amendment changed it, I believe.
     
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    Does Jesus forgive Gandhi for being a Hindu, Giftedone? In other words, is Jesus a LIAR in John 14:6, or was he HONEST and yes Gandhi gets burned alive in a "lake of fire" for simply not picking the one true god out of the thousands and thousands on offer (and therefore Jesus is a savage barbarian - similar to Attila the Hun, Hitler, etc.)? Please tell us, Giftedone, which one it is.
     
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    I admire you more than I admire Jesus, and so should other people.
     

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