Joe Biden Now Leads Donald Trump in Ten Polls

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  1. nopartisanbull

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    Excellent and honest article, and exactly what I’ve been saying.

    However, to the Maggots, in one ear and out the other, and they’ll keep repeating the same B.S. over and over again.
     
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    JFC man.

    YOUY claimed that Biden, thru his policies has HURT the oil industry. I showed you that they are pumping MORE than under Trump and you now try to move the goalposts again, falsely claiming that supply isn't meeting demand.....

    So you want Biden to get government into oil refining ?

    I eagerly await your next post claiming prices have doubled since Biden took office......
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    I asked you what he has done to increase our domestic drilling and refining capacity while pointing out what he has done to harm it and JFC you can't list anything can you.
     
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    Then why are you trying to credit him with what we are producing? I have already listed several of his anti-energy policies and he just declared a future ban on any use of natural gas in all federal buildings. If he can't effect it why did he run on and still promises to end it all.
     
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    My goal is rather to discredit Trump who claims that since Biden has been in office, the country doesn't produce enough oil to provide for Americans.

    It's a lie that's repeated over and over again by the MAGA.

    Even if Biden were the greenest POTUS in US history - which he isn't - the fact remains that the country is more energy independent today than when Trump was in office.

    As I said, it's the fact that you can't get around.
     
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    Gas prices are down….your asking what has he done it “increase production” and I showed you that in the first post that production is UP. YOU claimed it was down.

    JFC your being obtuse, and your embarrassing yourself.
     
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    Oh you missed Biden depleting the oil reserves, you missed him begging the Saudis to pump more, you missed the prices as supply can't keep up.
    Still can't come up with anything?
     
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    If you had $10 billion, would you build a new refinery that would produce 100,000 barrels of gasoline per day?

    Warning; One unscheduled shutdown could eat your profits, and even put you out of business.

    Refining is a business that doesn’t grow like weeds.
     
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    Saudi Arabia Crude Oil Production Monthly Analysis

    Nov 2019; 10.10 M bpd
    Dec 2019; 9.52 M bpd
    Jan 2020; 10.10 M bpd

    Feb 2021; 8.39 M bpd
    Apr 2021; 8.34 M bpd
    May 2021; 8.67 M bpd
    Jun 2021; 9.14 M bpd
    Jul 2021; 9.65 M bpd
    Aug 2021; 9.75 M bpd
    Sep 2021; 9.85 M bpd
    Oct 2021; 10.01 M bpd
    Nov 2021; 10.11 M bpd……pre-pandemic level

    Biden asked the Saudis to pump above their normal output

    Trump once asked the Saudis to increase production back to their normal output.

    See the difference?
     
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    Timeline of Biden asking the Saudis to increase production;

    FIRST DEMAND

    Headline; U.S. Calls on OPEC and its Allies to pump more oil…..Aug 11, 2021

    Aug 11, 2021; Saudi’s production was at 9.70 M bpd, WTI price was at $69.35
    6 months later, Feb 2022, Saudi’s production increased to 10.46 M bpd

    TRUMP’s demand for Saudi’s to increase production

    June 30th, 2018; When Trump asked the Saudis to pump more oil, WTI price was at $74.13, and Saudis production was at 9.95 M bpd.
    6 months later, Saudi’s production increased to 10.35 M bpd

    NOTE; Feb 2022, Saudi’s production increased above Trump’s demand, 10.46 versus 10.33 M bpd.

    NEXT…..Biden’s SECOND demand for Saudi’s to increase production above 10.46 M bpd, hence above normal output, and due to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
     
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    Interesting trivia.............so what?

    What has he done to increase drilling and production HERE?

    He demanded they not engage in dumping to try and harm our own markets and expansion and independence and of course gas was under $2 at the time as I recall. Your point being?
     
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    NO..............if you had $10,000 would you invest it long term in domestic oil and gas production? What is Biden doing to insure investors that he will not be shutting them down and piling even MORE taxes and MORE regulations and MORE cost on them so they WILL expand?

    Biden’s Energy Policies Harm U.S. Producers While Helping America’s Rivals
    Gregory Zerzan
    April 19, 2024

    On President Joe Biden’s first day in office he repealed President Trump’s Executive Order 13783, “Promoting Energy Independence and Economic Growth.” It is difficult to understand how the new President could have found offense in a directive that begins “It is in the national interest to promote clean and safe development of our Nation's vast energy resources, . . ,” but the action proved to be a harbinger of things to come. The Biden Administration has spent the last three years actively discouraging American fossil fuel production. These policies are supposedly aimed at battling climate change, but the primary beneficiaries are America’s global rivals.

    In his first week President Biden ordered a “pause” on the approval of oil and gas leasing and drilling permits in America’s public lands and waters. This clear violation of law was overturned by a federal judge a few months later, but the delay had the desired effect of slowing new projects and discouraging would-be investors. The President issued executive orders directing the government to end all “subsidies” for fossil fuels, ramp up criminal prosecutions in the name of “environmental justice,” and rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement- all in his first 30 days.

    The President issued an order directing America’s financial regulators to tackle “climate related financial risk,” on the absurd premise that bankers and investors, whose number one job is to constantly evaluate whether they are likely to profit from their investments, were failing to “appropriately and adequately account for and measure” climate change. The order also directed financial regulators to strong-arm lenders into financing “good” green investments while discouraging “bad” investments in fossil fuels....
    https://www.realclearenergy.org/art...rs_while_helping_americas_rivals_1026304.html

    Still waiting for you to tell me what Biden has done to ensure our oil and gas independence and to bring down the cost of gas at the pump?
     
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    Reference to Trump’s EO 13783…..promoting energy independence, You were provided with an article that defines energy independence.

    If you didn’t read it, what’s your definition of oil & gas independence?
     
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    And you STILL cannot cite ANYTHING Biden has done to increase our drilling and refining capacity and to get prices down. How embarrassing that you have to keep spouting your strawman argument.
     
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    In addition to the above, EO 13783 does not define energy independence, and MAGAs on this site keep saying that when Trump was POTUS, we were energy independent, however, when asked for a definition, NO RESPONSE.
     
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    And what has BIDEN DONE to make sure we remain oil and gas independent and that we expand our capacity. What is his current policy and what is he pledging for another four years?
     
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    Now that you've admitted that the US is more energy independent than under Trump, you deserve an answer to your question.

    Biden did two things:

    1- He maintained political pressure for oil companies to produce and refine more oil.

    2- He has promoted green energy - especially electric cars - which has significantly reduced consumption.
     
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    No admittance please back up YOUR assertion it is and Biden is responsible.

    ROFLMAO he promised tk shut them down, cut their leases, stopped their pipelines, increased their fees and demand the Saudi's make uo the difference. Show me these EO's to pressure oil companies to expand our capacity.

    Which are dying a slow death along with his projects and have made narely a dent in our demand.
     
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    “To make sure we remain oil and gas independent”

    Your statement contradicts your belief that we currently don’t produce enough oil to meet domestic demand.

    However, mainly due to scheduled and unscheduled maintenance, we had several refinery utilization rate problems, and some disruptions led to a shortage of petroleum products in one or more regions.

    Note; a +/- utilization rate of 1% equates to 180,000 barrels per day of petroleum products, 5%, 900,000 barrels per day.

    On a given day, retail gas stations and their bulk plants holds an average of 60 million barrels of petroleum products, thus, a minus 5% utilization rate over 60 days would be chaotic, and Nation-wide.
     
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    Your reaction doesn't surprise me at all.

    You demand proof only to refute it with stupidities.

    You're a lost cause.

    But in the end, the facts remain.

    And they are that under Biden, the country has never been more energy independent.

    It short-circuits your conservative propaganda.
     
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    If that's the case, why is energy cost more expensive than ever before?
     
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    Excessive speculation.
     
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    Can you elaborate? I'm not very knowledgeable with the terms. I think speculation is the finding of energy sources?
     
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    Google; Speculative purchases of oil futures
     
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