Joe Biden to our troops, " Clap for that you stupid b******'s"

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  1. LangleyMan

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    It removed the context, obvious because of the reaction we can see.
    I don't know the full context of his remarks, something I'd have to know before I could say. As someone who has run campaigns and been in the public eye myself, I don't think much of the kind of joke Biden was trying to pull off. Humor is okay, but it should be self-deprecating. Period.
    I had two blood uncles--one was a USAAF/USAF Colonel who served in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam, the other a USA Major General who received the Distinguished Service Medal and worked for Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. My father-in-law was a USAAC/USAF Colonel and test pilot who flew 150+ aircraft and prototypes, including German and Japanese planes captured during WW2. Too many brass for you? My father was an enlisted Marine in WW2.

    I have a bias against anyone who trashes the military.
    Your video hides the context.
     
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    So, you're going to shift to something else...?

    We need to hear from Trump what he's going to do to get us out of the ditch created mostly by the Chinese Communist Party.
     
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    It's no better.
     
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    You just personally attacked me for my service in the USAF then use your relatives as a shield? This is what Biden did last night in the debate. He actually lied and said he never called them stupid bastards. But you excuse him for that comment saying it was a joke and condemn Trump for comments reportedly said by anonymous sources and no evidence it's true?
     
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    No, not shifting. You have to watch the whole video. I like they guys take on Biden's gaffes and his "stupid bastards" comment
     
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    That one has the part where he also calls the troops "dull and slow".
     
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    You're taking offense where none was intended or merited. You should have figured that much out from me telling you about all the military in my family.
    If he did it humorously, he might be thinking he didn't really mean his quip to be taken literally. But if he said the words, he should accept ownership and explain. Better yet he should have used self-deprecating humor. Explanations seldom required.

    Only the military could come up with FUBAR, SNAFU, etc. There's an incredible amount of humor associated with a deadly serious business. Maybe Joe could have searched his experiences with the military and told one of the stories he heard or was involved with, preferably one where the joke was on him. The best storyteller I know was an enlisted guy in the Canadian Air Force.
    I didn't excuse Biden and said I want to see the context. What I can see in the short clip says taking the comment literally is a mistake.
     
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    I wonder, do you also cut President Trump that kind of slack when he tries to be funny?

     
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    When he generalized about captured soldiers to take a run at McCain, he crossed the line.
     
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    Figures.
     
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    It should. Every man who spent time as a POW...

    Everyone who runs for President is taking their chances, so I have some admiration even for Presidents and candidates I don't like--Trump, Hillary the last time around. That said, if someone wants to impress me that they care about those serving, they will pay them more and make sure family members staying behind have they need to look after their families.
     
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    Biden was serious. It was personal to the troops who were there. They aren't public figures or politicians.

    Trump was clearly making a personal jab at McCain who had stabbed him in the back, not POW's. I was clearly a joke.

    It just goes to show your partisan bias and hypocrisy.
     
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    I see no evidence Biden wasn't kidding. Not even Hillary would go to a rally and insult her audience to their faces. Biden didn't survive four decades as a pol by being that dumb.
    Oh, I get the personal shot at McCain, but Trump screwed up by making an awful comment about POWs.
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    Biden calling them stupid bastards isn't funny on any level. It's not appropriate.

    McCain gearing called out for being a loser is something I completely agree with, especially since he not only stabbed Trump in the back, he stabbed all Republicans and all those who voted for him in the back, myself included. Trump called McCain a hero, but the fact is he was a traitor to his country.
     
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    Not even Trump could be that disrespectful, but if he had said that on video, Chris Wallace would have played it over and over at the debate. There are really bad videos of Biden. Let's see the anti-Biden ads NOW.
     
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    It's taken out of context.

    The idea Joe would have made the remarks seriously to a military audience is absurd on its face.
     
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    Depends on the context.
    He saved you from Trumpcare that had less than 20% public support.
     
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    He made the remarks. The fact that you keep defending the indefensible speaks volumes about you.
    There is no context in which calling ordinary airman stupid bastards is acceptable. None. I've given you plenty of room to explain a context and you can't do it.

    Trump care? How about following the Constitution and letting the states have jurisdiction over health care?
     
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    :deadhorse:

    We don't know the context from the clip you presented. It's highly unlikely Biden would choose that forum to insult the military. Not even "deplorables" Hillary would do something that stupid.
    What does "acceptable" mean? In what context?
    I said it would be acceptable but unwise as humor.
    The Constitution permits Medicare and Medicaid. What are you talking about?
     
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    The Trump we know and love...?
     
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    Yep!

    Michigan loves Trump!



    WE LOVE YOU!



    Nevada loves Trump too!



    We Hispanics love Trump too!

     
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    And he loves us too!



    Kanye loves Trump.



    He loves the poorly educated!



    North Carolina loves Trump!



    Arizona loves Trump!

     
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    Does he? I see evidence to the contrary.
     

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