Justin Trudeau Wore Brownface at 2001 ‘Arabian Nights’ Party While He Taught at a Private School, Ca

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  1. Distraff

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    It kind of depends on the times. For example, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned black slaves but that was pretty typical of the times. Blackface wasn't considered racist a just a few decades ago. I don't think we should be too harsh critics of the past by the standards of today.

    Next we have to consider the severity of the racism. Even today, celebrities who do blackface are widely condemned, and have to profusely apologize but it doesn't necessarily destroy careers although it damages them.

    We also have to consider whether the person was young when the act was committed and he long since grown out of the behavior. We have all done things we want to forget about in our younger days.

    I'd rather vote on the issues rather than what some politician dressed up as when he was in college.

    Yes I am. Black actors have done whiteface many times and manage to avoid condemnation. This is a complete double standard. It got so ridiculous when some people got in trouble for applying black makeup to their faces to pretend to be white coal miners. Its ok to dress up like a white person, Asian, or an Indian, or an Arab, or a Black person. Just don't use it to mock or degrade them, and don't use it to take away their acting roles.

    Saying that black face is wrong because it has been used by racists is like saying that all guns are bad because they have been used for murder.
     
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    If the left was true to making people accountable and unacceptable due to things they’ve done in the past, then O’Rourke is disqualified because of his DWI and burglary conviction.
     
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    If My Posting Content at PF was a Category on Jeopardy, you would be the Champ.

    I really do appreciate your undying devotion.

    It means alot to me. Never change.

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    As far as John Wayne? I stand by my statement.

    As far as the Actual TOPIC of this thread?

    1) The Trudeau Thing is Much Ado about nothing.

    2) Canadians are always free to vote him out.

    3) The American RW could not care less about Trudeau--The RW is just using this to take cheap shots at "Liberals".

    End of story.


    And, as always, thank you for your kind attention.:handshake:
     
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    Thats exactly how they do.

    I also hear that a coworker from the school these blackface photos are from was diddling children.

    Thats actually the bigger news, which this is covering up.

    And of course his history of corruption.
     
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    Norm McDonald, Gavin McInnes, or Lauren Southern would all be good choices.

     
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    The irony and hypocrisy here is the left called Mary Poppins racist because she ‘blacked up.”
     
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    Let's talk about this time, blackface had been deemed racist and unacceptable long before these instances.

    He's 29 in one and a TEACHER stop with the nonsense.

    Scroll up and look at that attacks Mygan Kelly got just making the same defenses you are trying to make here.

    So what should happen to Trudeau, if it was wrong he wouldn't grovelling now.
     
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    What should happen to Trudeau?

    My guess would be RE-Election as PM.

    This whole Ludicrous Epically FAILED Attempt (by the Pro-Trump RW Reddit/Twitter Trolls) to shade "Liberals" has FAILED (miserably).

    Trudeau will be RE-Elected. Bank it. :salute:
     
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    You elevate the forum, your contribution is underappreciated. Speaking for myself and others, thank you.
     
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    It's really quite simple, AJ. You'd be amazed what being a teacher and having to remember hundreds of names of kids with new ones coming in every week does for the memory and having remembered what you wrote about JW, it was easy to do a quick search to find that post where your feelings in THIS thread do not quite match the same in that one. You appear to think that just because you've limited access to your profile that we can't search your posts. I assure you, this is another fallacy on your part.

    Now, the interesting thing here is that you've done everything in your post save explain why it is that we have two instances of racism happening a very long time ago and yet to you John Wayne is incredibly racist (which is true) but Trudeau means nothing at the very same time. You can attempt to deflect away from this truth by self-indulgently fantasizing about people following your posts out of some kind of devotion but the plain fact is that people look up your posts simply to prove you wrong - and you make it so easy to do. The fact that you cannot account for the disparity in your viewpoints towards JW and JT in your post but instead look away FROM it only makes it more obvious. And if there's one thing I love doing, it's deconstructing posts from people who are clearly and plainly wrong. Beyond that, ensuring that others can see how easy it is to prove how - varied - your viewpoints are based on whether you approve of someones politics or not is just as entertaining.

    Now, I've explained my POV - I think it's a bit unfair to hold people to today's standards based on their actions decades ago. But at the same time the LW - or as you might put it, the LW Fever-Swamp Borg Drones - having castigated and unloaded their Two Minutes Hate onto JW and any other RW person who has engaged in the same behavior, it makes it difficult for them to turn around and NOT hold their own accountable. Because when they don't - they end up looking mighty foolish. The LW has essentially put themselves in a position where they MUST ask for JT's blood as they have from others - they've boxed themselves in. Meanwhile we have you condemning one and excusing the other and we have your own words proving it so.

    How does that end up looking? I don't expect you to respond to that, but to everyone else the answer is obvious.
     
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  11. Andrew Jackson

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    Mary Poppins "blacked up"?

    Julie Andrews or Emily Blunt?

    Do you have a link?

    I'll wait. :salute:
     
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    Don't haveta wait long there. Here ya go. It was even posted in a NYT op-ed which you can find HERE, so you should find it safe and non-threatening. But there ya go, I'm sure the NYT editorial board - who I'm pretty sure are left-of-center - had no problem with it, I mean, they ran it.

     
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    The left is losing track of their own outrage. Who would have thought?
     
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    Nobody Cares. :bored:

    This "thing" is a *blip*.

    Trudeau will coast to another term as PM. :salute:
     
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    I only remember people getting in trouble with blackface in the past few years. It it true that it was considered offensive for many before that, but it wasn't a potential career ender it is today.

    And I believe that Meghan Kelly was absolutely unfairly treated. It seems that many on the left, rather than respecting other opinions, would rather try to ruin their careers for having opposing opinions. Kelly had some valid points, and instead of listening and debating them, people decided to scream racist and shout her down. In an attempt to save her career, she tried to deliver a fake apology she didn't believe in, but even that wasn't enough for them because she dared to challenge their opinion.

    Trudeau and even I, if I was in public office, would of course give a ton of apology if a blackface photo came out, because we know what happens to people who question the left-wing ideology on blackface. Most celebrities and politicians who have had blackface photos surfaced, have apologized profusely, whether they meant it or not, and most saved their careers by doing so.
     
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    My Dad retired from decades of teaching, ag and horticulture. Glad he retired.
     
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    I dont use ignore, but with some, I simply scroll on by. I commend you, though I think your efforts are falling on deaf ears, in this case.
     
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    :bored:

    Yet another LONG post just to OBSESS over me? :roflol:

    Thanks again for your kind attention.

    If you feel the need to luxuriate in obsessing over my content, more power to you.

    If throwing shade (and insulting me) gets you a few "likes" (from the similarly situated) more power to you.

    Hopefully, in the future, I may have enough time to waste time obsessing over the content of an "Anonymous Internet Person".

    I am not quite there yet, but who knows?

    Just spell my name right.

    Still, how does it look when you are constantly going out of your way to throw shade at me?

    Even to the point of dredging up Ancient Posts (from unrelated threads)?

    How does that end up looking? I don't expect you to respond to that, but to everyone else the answer is obvious.

    Anyway, back to the ACTUAL TOPIC:

    Trudeau WILL Still be the Canadian PM at the end of October.
    So, at the end of the day, this story will prove to be a big Nothingburger.

    IF, you choose to respond--Please keep your keystrokes ON-TOPIC.
    (Unlike your quoted post that is 99% Off-Topic, since you are engaging in shade and personal insults).

    Carry on. :salute:

    PS--No Hard Feelings. I am ALL Class. :handshake:
     
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    Blackface used to be fairly normal and wasnt viewed racist in the past,

    there is a tradition in flanders and the netherlands with a dutch version of santa claus where the people aiding a old man by climbing the chimney(to give presents to children) are all blackfaced, that has been call for controversy the last few years but nobody complained about it 10years ago,
     
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    Of course he will, but it's wonderful to see the Hypocrisy of the Liberal left and their fake outrage about Racism. All we hear from Liberals is Racism this and Racism that and as long as the can point a finger at President Trump or any other Republican it's fair Game, but as soon as it's a Liberal who obviously engaged in Racist activity, they hide their Heads in the Dirt and want to pretend it didn't happen. It's just great to see Liberal Politicians and their Hypocritical supporters exposed for the Fakes they are and lose all credibility.
     
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    I'd argue all credibility was lost long ago.

    They are incredible.
     
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    You know, its sad but true.

     
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    I have only read Page One of this Thread. Black and White Minstrel Show anyone?

     
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    It's amazing how the Democrats are DEFENDING racism...WOW! They had better get their stories straight----is racism ok or not? It sounds like you think it's ok...
     
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    And they don't call it brown face.
     

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