Keystone Pipeline suing Biden admin for $15B in damages

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump cut taxes for all payers. When you use a system that punishes the rich, naturally relief will help cure that problem such as cutting taxes.
     
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    it will be here for a long time, but we will move to alternative energy sources more and more
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    trump gave a mega permanent tax cuts to the corps, a small temporary tax cut to the middle class, then had the nerve to call it a tax cut bill for the middle class

    in fact it was so small, he reduced withholdings to make it look bigger, many were shocked when they owed money come tax time when they were using to getting money back
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The way Congress was formed was at two levels.
    Representatives were for guys like me and you.
    Senators were for the states.

    A huge mistake was made by changing the Senate to public voting for them.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Petroleum is alternative to the horse and buggy.
     
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    Die! Die, Keystone, die!


    YES I Want Gasoline At A Good Price
    NO! At the risks of aquifers should an oopsy occur.


    Moi :oldman:





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  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tax law is changed by Congress. Congress represents the public. Trump agreed to cut taxes for the middle class. Nobody in this country should be compelled to wait later for funds they earned prior.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The risk to aquifers is vastly over blown.

    Any human now sees the results of the Biden ooopsy. We are saddled with very extreme fuel prices.

    Fuel prices amount to a hidden tax on the public. Even the poor get shafted.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Compared to the public at large, there are very few corporations that got benefits.
    The system is rigged against the rich. That is wrong. When you target a group to hurt, that is poor government.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Congress did all of that. Don't you favor what Congress does?
     
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    Until It Happens!



    Now go watch Deepwater Horizon
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_(film)

    And worry over fracking aquifer pollution too! :rant:
     
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    Trump signed the bill, means he approved of the corp tax cuts over the middle class

    Congress added special golf course tax cuts to entice Trump in

    I don't care that he moved the funds, but he should have made it clear that was not a part of the tax cuts
     
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    You apparently missed the tax cuts you received.
     
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    I must have as I paid more, not less, about $700 more to be exact

    how much more did you get?
     
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    the system is not rigged against the rich

    the system is rigged against the middle class

    wanting the rich to pay the same tax per dollar as I do, is not targeting the rich, wow, just wow
     
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    Sucks that you live in a high tax democrat controlled state.
     
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    I live in a republican controlled State, so try again
     
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    So what's your point then? Which is still the safest and cleanest way to transport oil?
     
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    Do you even know why one was permanent and the other has to be renewed after 10 years? And are you claiming middle class tax rates weren't cut?
     
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    for some they were cut, not for all, and it was nothing like the huge middle class tax cuts Trump promised us

    it was a corp tax cut with a middle class carrot tossed in
     
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    Do you even know why one was permanent and the other has to be renewed after 10 years?

    Who in the middle class didn't get a tax rate cut? What did Trump promise that they did not get and be specific?

    The top rate fell from 39.6% to 37%, while the 33% bracket dropped to 32%, the 28% bracket to 24%, the 25% bracket to 22%, and the 15% bracket to 12%. It raised the standard deductions dramatically. It raised the childcare tax credit and made more of it refundable. Millions were removed from any tax liaiblity at all at the bottom.
    United States Congress. "H.R. 1, 115th Congress," Pages 1–3.
     
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    average refund per state per year per person, some even paid more

    don't spend the $50 all in one place

    https://www.policygenius.com/taxes/who-benefited-most-from-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act/

    Average tax refunds by state in 2018 vs 2017
    State 2017 Average refund 2018 Average refund Change in refund
    Florida $2,933 $2,989 +$56
    Georgia $2,823 $2,872 +$50
    Iowa $2,602 $2,650 +$48
    New York $3,059 $3,099 +$39
    New Jersey $3,013 $3,052 +$39
    Washington $2,681 $2,718 +$36
    California $2,911 $2,946 +$35
    District of Columbia $2,900 $2,933 +$33
    Michigan $2,560 $2,591 +$31
    Arizona $2,672 $2,702 +$30
    Oregon $2,398 $2,426 +$28
    Massachusetts $2,850 $2,877 +$26
    Maine $2,336 $2,362 +$26
    Vermont $2,392 $2,417 +$25
    Delaware $2,648 $2,672 +$24
    Ohio $2,517 $2,540 +$23
    Tennessee $2,726 $2,749 +$23
    Alabama $2,802 $2,823 +$21
    Mississippi $2,922 $2,943 +$20
    Virginia $2,771 $2,789 +$18
    Illinois $2,900 $2,916 +$16
    New Hampshire $2,602 $2,618 +$16
    Minnesota $2,516 $2,530 +$14
    Kansas $2,665 $2,677 +$12
    Pennsylvania $2,643 $2,655 +$12
    Hawaii $2,564 $2,576 +$12
    Missouri $2,601 $2,613 +$11
    Nebraska $2,615 $2,626 +$11
    Kentucky $2,648 $2,658 +$10
    North Carolina $2,629 $2,638 +$10
    South Carolina $2,569 $2,578 +$9
    Alaska $2,843 $2,852 +$9
    Idaho $2,457 $2,465 +$8
    Wyoming $2,989 $2,997 +$8
    Indiana $2,612 $2,619 +$7
    Utah $2,681 $2,685 +$4
    Wisconsin $2,436 $2,438 +$2
    Colorado $2,636 $2,638 +$2
    West Virginia $2,649 $2,650 +$1
    Maryland $2,861 $2,860 -$1
    Texas $3,206 $3,203 -$3
    Arkansas $2,759 $2,755 -$5
    Montana $2,401 $2,394 -$7
    Rhode Island $2,643 $2,636 -$7
    Connecticut $3,099 $3,091 -$8
    New Mexico $2,657 $2,647 -$10
    Nevada $2,830 $2,807 -$23
    South Dakota $2,651 $2,620 -$31
    Louisiana $3,115 $3,060 -$55
    Oklahoma $3,098 $2,964 -$134
    North Dakota $2,983 $2,831 -$151
     
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    The amount of your refund has nothing to do with how much tax you paid...............geeezzzzz surely you do not believe you came out great on taxes because you got a huge refund to you. I pay additional tax at tax time, BY DESIGN, and I got my middle class tax cuts.

    Now refute the rate cuts and credits I posted are you saying that is not factual?

    And again explain why the personal income tax rates sunsetted after 10 years while the corporate rate did not. Which party was responsible for that?
     
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    I know I paid more in taxes after Trump's tax cuts... sad!
     

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