Kids' gender clinic whistleblower "regretful patients begged to 'have body parts put back on'"

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  1. Oldyoungin

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    A children's gender clinic whistleblower claimed on Dr. Phil Thursday that she saw regretful patients ask to have their removed body parts restored after operations.

    Jamie Reed, who worked at the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital, penned a lengthy tell-all expose last year in which she called gender clinics for kids "morally and medically appalling." On "Dr. Phil Primetime," the host asked Reed, who is queer and married to a transgender person herself, what changed her mind about transgender treatments for youth.

    "A number of things," she said. "We started to see patients who were experiencing very significant medical harms being rushed to the emergency room with lacerations requiring stitches. We had patients contact us who were begging to have body parts put back on within months of having surgeries."

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/kids-...regretful-patients-begged-body-parts-put-back

    Truly sad. I think at some point in our future, we will look back at this time and view it similarly to when we forced black women to be sterilized and also the tuskegee study.
     
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    No one is being forced here. The Tuskegee comparison is insanely dishonest. And I smell BS. Some of the claims look like outright lies. Which wouldn't surprise me given the "venue" chosen to talk about this.
     
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    Reed, who is queer and married to a transgender herself, has first hand experience and knowledge because she actually worked in a clinic that performed said topic of OP.

    You staying at a holiday inn last night makes you more qualified somehow?
     
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    If you actually cared about first-hand experiences, and you don't, you'd care about the first-hand experiences of trans people. Meanwhile, I still call BS. Just because someone says they saw something doesn't mean they did, and a few details stand out here as complete BS.
     
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    I would caution about taking anything from the Dr. Phil show, or any other talk show, too seriously.
    Sometimes there is some accuracy, sometimes not so much.
    Dr. Phil, to me, has gone downhill the last few years. It seemed to be a fairly honest straight up expose show at first, but over the years has devolved, probably due to declining ratings and the desire to keep the ratings up so they start to make more effort to be controversial, leading to more bs.
    I've had to watch Dr. Phil way more than I wanted to due to my wife who really likes the show. She has even soured on it as it has gotten more sketchy.
    To the OP article, there have been and will be mistakes made. It's how we handle them in the future that is important. No one that I've ever read has been forced to have any gender treatment. It is a difficult issue, how to help someone who isn't even sure of how they need to be helped.
    Surgery should be a last ditch, every other avenue explored, effort.
     
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    Are you claiming Reed doesn't care about first-hand experiences of trans people? So she doesn't care about her life partner? Strange.

    Call BS all you want, when someone has a core belief challenged it can be quite difficult. Most result to calling "BS" to avoid the pain that growth brings.
     
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    So what did Reed say that is inaccurate?
     
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    Most complaining about a sliver of critical thought do so to avoid the pain that honesty brings so that they continue trans bashing.
     
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    What in your links disproves any of Reed's claims? Nothing.

    But , hey, you can support kids getting mutilated by doctors, and that's all you care about.
     
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    Links already provided. She's a lying sack of ****.
     
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    I get it: you are unwilling to read the links. Big surprise. I apologize for pretending you'd be willing to think about this topic critically. "Trans kids bad." Got it. You are unwilling to think beyond that.
     
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    Reed isn't trans, just her partner. What you are doing would be "gay bashing".
     
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    Ah can't actually discredit any of reed's claims, so you have to gay bash her? I get it, you think "Child mutilation cool" and are unwilling to think beyond that.
     
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    I haven't "gay bashed" her at all. But I see your inability to read links extends to your inability to read posts. Several people (actual medical professionals, not just case workers) who work at the clinic, patients, and parents of patients have called out the lies. We get it. You hate trans kids almost as much as you hate reading links.
     
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    I never called her trans. I said you were trans bashing. Which you are. And since you also don't understand what gay bashing is, no, that wasn't gay bashing. Do I have to end every post with a shooting star with a "The more you know" message?
     
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    You have absolutely gay bashed her for simply not following the progressive programming of "child mutilation is good". Reed worked at the clinics, you haven't. Ever. Reed worked at the clinics , day in and day out. You have never. Reed is gay with a trans husband and is part of the community, you aren't.

    You enjoy child mutilation almost as much as you like making wild claims.
     
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    Yeah, Just pointing out the only bashing is your gay bashing of reed because she doesn't want children to be mutilated and you do for whatever kink it is you have with that.
     
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    She was a case worker at the clinics. Not a medical professional. And others from the clinic, patients, and parents have called out her lies. I'm sorry you can't think of any reason to ever criticize a gay person (assuming she even is gay) without doing so for the purpose of gay bashing. The adults in the room can figure that part out.

    It is adorable as ****, however, to hear you pretend you care about the opinions of people who work at these clinics when you slander 99.9999% of them.
     
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    I agree. The trans work is done voluntarily, those others, were forced.
     
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    You are welcome to whatever kinks you like, so long as you aren't harming anyone. Please stop projecting your kinks onto others.
     
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    That reminds me...I need to check the tranny fluid in my Subaru.
     
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    Studies have shown that the percentage of people that regret transitioning is pretty low, below that of many other common surgical procedures. While we definitely need to be diligent in minimizing errors in diagnosis the claim by this person that there is some regret shouldn’t convince anyone that it is a poor practice.
     
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    Even among those who regret the procedure, the majority of those report that their regret is due to how they are mistreated by others.
     
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    Oh man. What a cop out when the report doesn't align with your desired narrative.

    This is the new ploy of the left here where stories and accounts don't align, just dismiss them as unreliable.

    How weak.
     

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