Killing a baby to have a baby...

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  1. MuchAdo

    MuchAdo Well-Known Member

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    You did not rephrase it, you misrepresented her message and don’t try to disingenuously claim otherwise.

    She was talking about the joy of being able to celebrate Mother’s Day due to IVF and was stating her concern that legislation would restrict the full range of reproductive health care that would prevent people like her from having a chance to become a parent via medical intervention.

    She was talking about her successful IVF treatments and you twisted it into your own diatribe related to low chance that embryo will implant, expense, and implanting multiple embryos. Then you extrapolated the implantation of multiple embryos into aborting ‘one of them’. This is not rephrasing what the woman said at all.

    So you are seriously trying to claim your statement “So what this is, it's a woman killing one of her babies in order to have another” is rephrasing what this woman wrote about celebrating the fact that she has children through IVF.

    That is disingenuous.

    Is calling women selfish a rephrasing of what the woman said in her article?

    The extent the woman mentioned abortion was that abortion ban bills could take the option of IVF from others. You perversely turned her words into woman are willing to ‘kill’’ one of their developing children in the womb.

    You rephrased nothing. You twisted the words in an article so you could start yet another obsessive anti-abortion woman hating thread.
     
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  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously SHE did not say she is selfish.

    That was my assessment of the actual issues in her argument.

    Let's face it. You are just unhappy that I am calling out the euphemisms for what they are.
     
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  3. Izzy

    Izzy Well-Known Member

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    Just a few thoughts about the arrival of Alabama's frozen children.

    1. What happens to the people who stop paying their monthly storage fees to keep their child/children frozen?
    Will they be criminally charged with neglect and abandonment?

    2. If the freezer goes on the fritz will the owner of the clinic be criminally charged with mass murder?

    3. Will the clinic's refrigeration guy who didn't get to the clinic in time also be charged?

    4. Will the number of frozen children in Alabama be added to the number of children Alabama has in foster care and the next US census?

    5. Can the owners of their frozen children claim them as dependents when they file their taxes?


    'Alabama Supreme Court Rules That Frozen Embryos Are 'Children'

    Source: Huff Post

    Feb 18, 2024, 11:01 PM EST


    'The Alabama Supreme Court ruled Friday that frozen embryos are children, which pro-choice rights groups have warned could have dangerous implications for fertility treatments such as in vitro fertilization.

    The Alabama Supreme Court on Friday reversed Mobile County Circuit Court Judge Jill Parrish Phillips’ decision to dismiss a lawsuit in which a couple sued an Alabama fertility clinic and hospital for the “wrongful death” of their frozen embryos in a ruling that was riddled with theology. The couple’s frozen embryos were destroyed after a hospital patient who accessed the freezer that held the embryos dropped them on the floor. The ruling means that the couple can sue for wrongful death.

    “[T]he Wrongful Death of a Minor Act is sweeping and unqualified. It applies to all children, born and unborn, without limitation,” the ruling said. “It is not the role of this Court to craft a new limitation based on our own view of what is or is not wise public policy. That is especially true where, as here, the People of this State have adopted a Constitutional amendment directly aimed at stopping courts from excluding ‘unborn life’ from legal protection.”

    The ruling pointed to the Alabama Constitution Section 36.06, which argues that each person was made in God’s image, meaning each life has an incalculable value that “cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God.”

    Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alabama-ruling-frozen-embryos-children_n_65d29a77e4b043f1c0aba2b9?nmq
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Better yet if they have been frozen for more than twenty years - do they get to vote?
     

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