Kyle Rittenhouse Shouldn’t Even Be On Trial

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lawyer reports, and shows the video, that Kyle never should have been put on trial. Recall the cop not put on Trial who killed Ashli Babbitt? The lawyer makes the claim that Kyle did not belong on trial. I know we have threads on this but this is different due to it being a different issue.
    Who agrees with the lawyer that Rittenhouse does not belong on Trial?

    Also will you predict the outcome of the trial. I predict Kyle is not found guilty.

    You will see video used in the Trial.

     
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    I'm glad your opinion carries no more weight than my opinion. :)
     
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    Sure, reality does its own thing regardless of our opinions. It's a good thing his opinion is based on facts, evidence, and rational deduction. It's why his opinion sits closer to reality.
     
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    Especially when it’s been made political and the state tries to prove something.
     
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    Definitely does not belong on trial and I’m a proud donator to his cause. I have donated multiple times. The constitution gives no legal age for defending yourself with arms. Proud as heck of that kid. Handled it like a pro and only shot those who attacked him. If he needs more donations I will donate more.
     
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    Sooooooo - please explain HOW he was “defending himself” when it was clear he was looking for trouble?

    And let’s play “Goose and Gander”. Now if this was a black cop with a legal firearm shooting above the heads of a crowd aiming for a non lethal shot when a rioter moved into the firing line - would they too be “defending themselves” and others?
     
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    What does your scenario have to do with anything? If a group of people were chasing you down and verbally threatened to kill you and then physically tried to attack you, I don't care who you are. The fact is that it was self defense when you shot him.
     
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    1- More people die from blunt objects each year than an AR-15 so I would say his life was in more danger when he was attacked by a skateboard.

    2- every witness has testified to have an interpretation of self defense

    3- he was actively being chased and had people reaching for his weapon. He was chasing no one.

    4- one witness said one of the attackers that were killed threatened to kill rhittenhouse.
     
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    Only in a minority of minds.
     
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    5- if he waited to defend himself until they took his gun away or knocked him senseless, he would likely be dead.
     
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    I'm starting to think it's a show trial. Just to show that they are exhausting every effort to determine guilt.

    The news media lies mostly by omission so people think they have to do this

    Reminds me of the Zimmerman show trial. Everybody involved already knew it was self defense but they had to put in a show.

    The problem is it won't convince anybody. The people that want Kyle convicted have already convicted him. He's guilty because he had a gun, or he didn't reside in that state. Or because he shot people involved with BLM.

    It's like that kid that was called a white supremacist for smiling while a toothless meth head pounded a drum in his face.
     
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    I agree he should not have been put on trial. The police probably did not want to put him on trial. But pressure came from higher up.

    Of course this is very political.

    Unlawfully having a gun because he was one year away from being old enough is a separate matter. I'm not sure I even agree with that law, but he will undoubtedly have already pled guilty to it. Of course, being convicted for breaking one law can sometimes be used as a pretext for punishing a defendant for something else which they were NOT convicted of. (Yes, very unfair, it's easy for a bad judge to use their power in an unfair way)

    And of course he did not put himself in the best situation in the first place. I would even say that he is somewhat responsible (though I do not think in a criminal way) for the situation that ended up happening and in which he found himself in. The same if I went to bad neighborhood, all alone by myself at night, and walked down a dark alley.
     
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    Kyle is on trial because the right to self defense is on trial. They cant ban guns, so they'll ban being able to use them for self defense instead.
     
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  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for the fairness you show.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I also donated to his cause. An innocent boy or man should not be on trial.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Second amendment does not mention age at all, right?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Case made in the Video. And there is video proof.
     
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    a trial is the best place to decide if he is guilty or not
     
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    this is what I do not get, if I went up to a group of rowdy white teens with a baseball bat and started talking smack and they attacked me, I would be arrested, this was an ar-15

    I could not use self defense as I took a baseball bat to the crime

    doesn't mean the ones that attacked me were not wrong too, but I would not be in the right
     
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  20. Robert

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    That incident with the kid and the drummer made the kid a rich boy.

    The young man in a MAGA hat thrust into Washington’s political wars last year has walked away with a victory. A very substantial one.

    Nicholas Sandmann tweeted Friday he reached a settlement in his $250 million defamation lawsuit against the Washington Post — on his 18th birthday. Nobody divulged the payout.

    “Today, I turned 18 & WaPo settled my lawsuit. … Thanks to my family & millions of you who have stood your ground by supporting me. I still have more to do,” Sandmann stated in a tweet. The “more to do” are similar lawsuits against Gannett, ABC, CBS, the New York Times and Rolling Stone, the Washington Post reported.
     
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    You should have watched the entire video. All that is clear in the video.

    And the entire story is the young kid went with his first aid kits expecting to do good for his community and was attacked by adults.
     
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    How often have you been put on trial? This trial is not cost free for the lad.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know, there was millions of dollars in damage done by the other people there. And Rosenbaum was guilty of burning things up on property he did not own. I side with Kyle on this matter.

    He had that lethal first aid kit on him as well.
     
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    I have never taken an ar-15 anywhere and killed anyone
     
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    I'm glad he was victorious. But my point is he was evil and wrong by the court of public opinion because the media shaped it that way. That's exactly what they've done to Kyle Rittenhouse
     
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