Last night we had another democrat debate with no American flag on stage.

Well. It’s hard to say they knew it was wrong when they actively engaged in it and/or profited from it. Some gave lip service to being against it while actively engaging in the activity. Like Washington.

But regardless if you would have asked every single one of the founders if the white race was superior to the black one they would have universally answered in the affirmative. Without exception.

 

It is an interesting detail to be sure. When it comes to debates, both parties (in this case the DNC) pay attention to every last detail. It is clearly not a simple oversight, and thus the flag was inarguably absent for a specific reason. It is not a leap in logic to conclude that they chose to not display a flag because a significant enough percentage of their voters are anti flag and what it stands for.

When the right accuses the left of being anti American, they are specifically referring to the percentage of their voters that are in fact anti flag.

 

Pretty lame way to say you want to lead this nation. The flag of North Korea is also- Red, White and Blue. There are 29 countries using the same color scheme.
The way these people speak, it's sometimes makes you wonder which nation they might be in favor of.

This is one of those things where the left would go berserk if we were talking about Trump..... but this is different, isn't it?

It's Okay. They are free to make themselves look bad. Trump appreciates it.

 

We can agree to disagree:
By the quotes, letters, and documents they left behind, it is clear that most of our founding fathers wished to see slavery ended, though they did not believe it possible for it to happen in their lifetimes. Some of them, most notably Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, and John Jay, were very supportive of the rapidly growing abolitionist movement. Benjamin Franklin was President of the Pennsylvania society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery, which included Jay and Hamilton. The year he died, he signed a petition for the abolition of all slavery. He died before he got to see it become a reality.

John Jay, as governor of New York, made numerous efforts to push anti-slavery laws. He founded the New York State Society for Promoting the Manumission of Slaves and New York's African Free School, which taught freed slaves reading, writing, and basic arithmetic.

Alexander Hamilton grew up in the Caribbean islands. The majority of the sugar imported to the Colonies were exported from those islands and were maintained by rented out slaves. Almost everyone, no matter how poor, had several slaves that either worked for their masters or were rented out to make extra money for their masters. Hamilton grew up with a deep rooted hatred of the slave trade that fueled his work as an avid supporter of the abolitionists his entire life.

Here's some context:
https://www.revolutionary-war.net/slavery-and-the-founding-fathers.html

 

The candidates had nothing at all to do with the debate stage. And the entire stage was a giant red wire and blue digital display, that did include the flag.

 

A flag on a stage is a way to lead a nation. Please.

 

But no flag.

 

Yes, the graphic showed the flag. But that’s irrelevant. You guys can’t address the policies or substance of the debate so you attack the inane and irrelevant.

 

To say you WANT to lead a nation. To say, you are supporting that nation. Endorsing that nation. It's not a generic thing, it's specific when you are a candidate for it.
Got it now, or need more instructions??

It's a small thing- yet one with a very plain statement. Like an SBD in church- leaves a bit of an odor.

 

Do you think one of the candidates say how the stage is decorated?

Yes, I need more instructions.

 

The flag is important unless, of course, the left thinks that the flag will offend some of their base. Can't think of any other good reason not to do it. It is a simple thing, but important to some of us.

 

no, the flag has no importance in a debate about policy.

You’re free to fly whichever flag you want on your own property. Nobody is stopping you.

 

It costs almost nothing to fly the flag. For many of us it is important. It had to be an intentional act not to display the flag. I would like to know why they chose not to fly the flag.

Did they believe it would offend part of their base?

 

nor does it const anything to not fly it. It’s irrelevant.

Tj en fly one. Nobody says you can’t. B it don’t pretend you would suddenly vote for a democrats if only they would have a flag on a debate stage.

Probably the same reason it wasn’t flown in some 2016 debates. It’s irrelevant.

I’m hoping they did it just to watch righties whine like little girls.

 

Franklin became an abolitionist after he built his wealth and name on the backs of slaves.

“Like most citizens of his time Benjamin Franklin owned slaves and viewed them as inferior to white Europeans, as it was believed they could not be educated. His newspaper the Pennsylvania Gazette advertised the sale of slaves and frequently published notices of runaways.”

“Franklin owned slaves from as early as 1735 until 1781. The Franklin household had six slaves; Peter, his wife Jemima and their son Othello, George, John and King.“

Hamilton didn’t free his slaves until 1798.

Hamilton's position on slavery is more complex than his biographers' suggest. Hamilton was not an advocate of slavery, but when the issue of slavery came into conflict with his personal ambitions, his belief in property rights, or his belief of what would promote America's interests, Hamilton chose those goals over opposing slavery. In the instances where Hamilton supported granting freedom to blacks, his primary motive was based more on practical concerns rather than an ideological view of slavery as immoral. Hamilton's decisions show that his desire for the abolition of slavery was not his priority. One of Alexander Hamilton's main goals in life was to rise to a higher position in society. His humble birth meant that he would not only have to work hard but that he would have to befriend the right people -- the wealthy and influential. During the eighteenth century, a large number of upper-class Americans held slaves. When Hamilton had to make a choice between his social ambitions and his desire to free slaves, he opted to follow his ambitions.

John Jay was also a slaveowner. Although he owned slaves himself, Jay had an explanation for this seemingly contradictory practice: “I purchase slaves and manumit them at proper ages and when their faithful services shall have afforded a reasonable retribution.”

 

Trump has turned the flag into a symbol for authoritarianism and abuse of power.

Trump even tried to change the flag himself. He even had the gall to show a child to draw it this way


It was your choice



True Americans need a new flag that is free of trump contamination.

 

It appears that the democrats have made a choice. They figure they would lose more votes by flying it than not flying it. That is tragic. It shows their true colors.

 

This is the GOP choice of colors.
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The candidates have nothing to do with the stage set up, lol.

 

You have all those candidates for the presidency of the United States and they have no say. That has to be the worse excuse ever.

 

I think the DNC probably controlled that. I think the candidates would also have a say in regard to it, if they wished to.

It's not a huge thing by itself. But when things of this nature accumulate, it's like for example someone that never says thank you, never displays any gratitude for what he has been given- in this case, the opportunity to try for an office. Perhaps it's the entire DNC, saying they don't like America very much, but lack the guts to openly say it. Just not a good sign, and affects their image and the message it sends.

 

No American flags. No chants of “U-S-A!”. They don’t even hide their hostility toward the U.S. anymore.

Bernie said today he wants to “transform” America. Transform into what?

 

Why would they have the American flag? The DNC doesn’t respect Americans or are system of Govt

 

I know. Reality has a liberal bias. Lol

 

No, that's the toilet paper in the DNC restrooms.