Let’s Get This Class War Started

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by VanishingPoint, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    You're easily satisfied, apparently. Glad you're time and effort is so easily purchased, if that works for you.

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    Rich people pay the little bucks...that's how they stay rich.

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    There, we agree.
     
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    You mean, what the latest corporate trend that dictates how much hard work that is demanded for miniscule compensation. People need to disengage the corrupt system, and let it fail.
     
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    Heard you were looking for a job worthy of your talents...also heard the unions are paying $15/hr for picketing.....
     
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    Nah...I want 5 grand an hour, like the corporate CEO/throat slashers. 15? Not worth my time at all.....maybe some kid will be happy with gas money and lunch money twice a week.
     
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    There however are big benefits---all the road kill one can eat and many dumpsters along the routes to scavenge...
     
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    Probably better than the high profit, processed garbage corporations offer at Walmart...
     
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    Owning a property/business isn't the same as running a business. I'm tempted to post the video again. :wink:
     
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    I heard it through the class warfare grapevine, that some of the wealthiest believe only fools and horses should have to work.
     
  9. OverDrive

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    Guess 'welfare queens' are no fools, huh?
     
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    Livable wage is a subjective thing. I earned $12,000 last year. I lived. Apparently $12K is livable.

    In socialism, people literally starve to death. Go read about the satellite photos over North Korea showing mass graves, and then go visit South Korea, and you show me the long lines of people there who believe Capitalism is so bad, that the alternative is better. Show me the long line of South Koreans trying to escape to North Korea, to get away from Capitalism.

    If you put half as much effort into working and advancing yourself, as you do in making up absolute stupidity on this forum, you'd be wealthy by now.

    I wouldn't know that, and he didn't say.

    This was back in 2009.

    As for McDonalds helping people sign up for medicaid.....

    Any time the government hands anything out.... no matter what it is, companies, individuals, everyone, is going to find a way to use it.

    If you were to increase medicaid to cover people making $50,000 a year, there would be thousands of companies signing up middle class employees on it.

    Back in 2007, Hawaii passed a "universal child health care" law, which allowed any child without health care, to qualify for free health care paid for by the state. The program lasted only 7 months, because everyone, even the rich people, canceled their coverage, so that they then qualified for free health care for their kids.

    Again, it's not McDonald's job to make sure you are smart enough to get your own health insurance coverage. They are merely taking advantage of the system government setup.

    Why you people don't get this, I don't understand. If the government offered free food to people who had pink flip flops, half the the entire country would be waring pink flip flops on registration day, whether they were poor, middle class, or rich.

    People ALWAYS game the system. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS!!! And then you want to blame McDonalds for the system you created?

    By the way, who was it that made health insurance too expensive for McDonald's to offer in the first place? Obama care!

    So jack up the price of health insurance, and then want to complain McDonald's is pushing people onto government care?

    No sorry. False argument.
     
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    Yeah...12k is livable (if you live in a cardboard box, outside, in the summertime, out of the rain, under a freeway). Other than that, it's unusable as a realistic income.
     
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    What "costs" are being incurred by one"s merely "looking for work"--costs that are so "many" as to be (presumably) onerous?
     
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    What skills do you possess that you believe are not worth "bother[ing]" about sharpening or upgrading?
     
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    They are just looking for a way to also get multimillion dollar bonuses from individual welfare instead of corporate welfare.

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    Searching for a job may be analogous to working without getting paid, in our modern, Information Age.
     
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    And free smokes.
     
  16. Roy L

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    It is the escalator that is powered by the treadmill.

    Anyone who opens their eyes and is willing to see can see them. Anyone who has worked for decades and got no farther ahead knows he has been running on a treadmill. And anyone who sees rich, greedy parasites getting rapidly richer without effort or contribution of any kind can see the escalator. It takes a certain amount of knowledge and intelligence, though, to understand how they are connected.
     
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    You mean like... landowners...?
    While running on the treadmill that powers the rich's escalator...?
    Unless you own other people's rights to liberty, that is. Then you can just charge them rent for exercising their rights.
    "I will work harder." -- Boxer the draft horse, in Orwell's Animal Farm, just before he is sent to the glue factory.
     
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    What is that supposed to mean, exactly?

    It is certainly true that merely "earching" for a job is an unpaid endeavor--always has been--but once one actually finds that job, it is quite a different matter...
     
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    I am really not sure what difference might be made by this technicality...

    Anyone who has "worked for decades and got no farther" either (a) is burdened by a vastly inferior skillset; or (b) is working for the wrong company...

    This is merely an appeal to spite (argumentum ad odium); which is both a logical fallacy and (even more importantly, I think) an enormously unedifying response...
     
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    Only the difference between a disgraceful fact and an absurd lie.
    No, they are just on the treadmill that powers the escalator. Like most people.
    Garbage. That is a stupid, dishonest attempt to evade the facts.
    No, it simply identifies a fact that you refuse to know and seek to obscure.
     
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    So, you consider me "stupid" and a "li[ar]"?

    I am willing to debate the issues with anyone; but I really do not care to participate in a mudslinging contest, or indulge ad hominem attacks...
     
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    It tends to mean; that only the least wealthy are burdened the most by our current regime.
     
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    What does "our current regime" (presumably, the Obama administration) have to do with "our modern, Information Age" (as in the assertion, "Searching for a job may be analogous to working without getting paid, in our modern, Information Age")?
     
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    Consider this perspective and alternative, employers don't have to hire anyone under the doctrine of employment at-will; so, why is labor burdened with having to ask an employer who doesn't have to hire them--especially if it can cost money and the employer doesn't have to hire them.

    I only agree with those of the opposing view if employers are required to hire everyone that applies, and only fire them if they don't work out.
     
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    Well I have. Absolutely.

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    Well.... if everyone doesn't want to pay you more for your skill set.... that's a hint that you and your skill set are not as valuable as you think.
     

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