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  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So we have now gotten to the point in this conversation where you have acknowledged that the climate models are NOT part of the "settled science". My position is that you have been conflating the models and the "settled science" into one. You deny that you are doing as much. After all of this bluster, lets take our conversation back to where it started.

    -You said "in the early 2000s, Exxon offered anybody with a Science Degree $10000 for each article they would write denying AGW".

    -When pressed for a link, what it ACTUALLY said was they put "out a call for people to write thoughtful criticisms and limitations of climate models" .

    Being that you took a call for thoughtful criticisms and limitations of climate models, and insisted that means that they are denying AGW, that shows beyond any shadow of a doubt that you are conflating climate models and the so called "settled science" of AGW to be one and the same.

    Check Mate!
    Game, Set, Match!
    The fat lady has sung!
    Stay down Rock!
     
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    I have no idea what you are taking about. How could I have been doing that given that I didn't even mention "models" until a couple of messages ago when you brought them up. But I'm glad your mistake is corrected.

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    Yes! A call to fabricate a strawman argument. Which, BTW, persists to this day. As demonstrated by the fact that it's not until now, 15 years later, that you learn that the models are not the "settled Science" anybody has been talking about.

    Better late than never....

    Actually it means that you are. Since you were the one who brought them up. Not me. And that was the intention of Exxon's $10K bribe. To anybody who could boost they had a degree in any Science to make up arguments to undermine settled Science. Strawman arguments was one of the resulting products. The others included all the anti-science arguments that you have heard on wingnut media for all these years.

    It took 15 years to debunk this garbage. You yourself only became aware today. It's a long battle. But we'll get there.

    What were you saying? "Check mate"? Yeah... you finally got what we have been explaining to you for 15 years. You do deserve to celebrate! But it should also serve as a lesson to you that wingnut media has forced you to make a fool of yourself for all these years. So you can be more critical of them in the future.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    -Yes....CHECKMATE. That is precisely it. YOU did NOT mention the MODELS. What you did is take Exxon paying for thoughtful critique and limitations of MODELS, and bogusly called that denying AGW. Thats the point, you are conflating them to be one and the same. You are taking your BELIEF of a catastrophic outcome based on those models, and conflating that with the settled science of the greenhouse effect. Im not sure whether you are aware of the fact that you are being deceitful, or are just truly confused, but from where I sit it doesnt matter.

    -Im sure you will try to throw around a little more sand in the hopes that no one can see, but the reality is that I have undeniably demonstrated how you are falsely masquerading your belief in a catastrophic outcome, with the science of what is called a greenhouse effect. This isnt me coming to some realization 15 years later as you are oddly trying to imply, this is me proving your nonsensical rantings to be nothing more than condescending bluster. It has been fun.
     
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    Perhaps you should look up stagnant.
    You might, gasp, educate yourself.
     
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    Or I might educate you.

    stag·nant
    ˈstaɡnənt/
    dull and sluggish.
    "a stagnant economy"
    synonyms: sluggish, slow-moving
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Nah, I already knew what stagnant means.
    Where is your source for the definition?
     
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    You seem to think stagnant means exclusively non moving and it does not. It can also mean very slow "sluggish" moving. Now you know. You're welcome.

    DICTIONARY
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    stag·nant
    ˈstaɡnənt/
    adjective
    1. (of a body of water or the atmosphere of a confined space) having no current or flow and often having an unpleasant smell as a consequence.
      "a stagnant ditch"
      synonyms: still, motionless, static, stationary, standing, dead, slack; More
      • showing no activity; dull and sluggish.
        "a stagnant economy"
        synonyms: inactive, sluggish, slow-moving, lethargic, static, flat, depressed, declining, moribund, dying, dead, dormant
        "a stagnant economy"
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth
    You always seem to be wrong when you try to guess what another thinks.

    https://www.investing.com/charts/live-charts
    So sluggish it was, that the DJI merely tripled in 8 yrs. 8 yrs of stock growth you missed out on. A 3X in stock growth you didn't get to cash in on.
     
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