Lets fight the left

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  1. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    You seem to have me backwards. I am talking about legitimate gripes about bad behavior. For example, "we should delay Obamacare another year because it isn't ready yet and is a big mess and causing cancellations contrary to what people were told so the law needs to be fixed". "Dear HR member such and such, have you considered that the Internet Sales Tax software wouldn't work with all ecommerce systems? What happens with phone orders? Email add ons?"

    You see? Public pressure, asserted in an organized manner over flaws in bills and policies before the Congress. Not obeying whatever Obama wants and pretending things aren't bad and keeping your head in the sand like some leftist or RINO. Richard Nixon has nothing to do with it.

    Liars, hypocrites. Name one person on the left that isn't a liar, hypocrite, deceiver, manipulator, or toe the liner.

    Other then yourself of course and other normal people. I am talking about the ruling class.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    You are left wing, and not for liberty at all. You advocate violence and land theft. I am well familiar with your posts. Of course you would think the word "fight" meant literally. The left never wants an engaged debate on policy. They want to take, and are quite ready and willing to do it by force - on Internet blogs. In real life they stop once the cops round them and their friends up, and then they cry about police brutality. Thankfully, the police still like to club and spray hippies. :gun::hippie:
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    How is this terrorism? Writing letters and calling congressmen in an organized manner is terrorism? Are you nuts?

    This, what the left does is terrorism:

    [video=youtube;aHlGob3CvV8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHlGob3CvV8[/video]

    You guys love to project your behavior onto others - don't you? Now show me one of the tea party rioting. Go on, I will wait.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    You are also left wing. You buy into the game of tribalism and believe the world is war of races pitted against each other, which is just marxism of race which is what Hitler brought to the fascist economics game, which I imagine you are OK with too. Application rejected.
     
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    why does this thread not get moved to humor and satire?

    i always think that i cudnt think any lower of right wingers, but when i hit PF im constantly proven wrong...i really dont mean that with disdain, but i do honestly feel sorry for u, u are so perfectly brainwashed..u dont only have lost all ability to think for yourself, but u think all this crazy lunatic ideas come from your own mind and u will fight anyone who claims different...
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Typical lefter, just hurling insults. No offense, but I feel sorry for you. Always agreeing with government, needing it wash and wipe and feed and shelter you. I wish you could provide and think for yourself,, but you will follow any crazy lunatic idea one of your rulers comes up with, and you will fight anyone who points out that you have no success stories, and nothing to offer the country except more government control, a weaker economy and a watered down military.
     
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    Other than yourself of course, name one person on the right that isn't a liar,hypocrite, deceiver, manipulator, or toe the liner- specifically about the ruling class of the right.

    I keep circling back around to Richard Nixon, because, while the Right likes to pretend that he never existed, I think he set the stage for the modern attack messages of the right, with no regards to the truth.
     
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    No, id like to preserve my people or nation. All nations.

    What is the difference between nationalism and tribalism? I am the first one.

    No, im an Austrian economist.
     
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    I think members of the Tea Party are nuttier than a fruit cake. I think shutting down the government was an act designed to terrorize the country. Of course you'll say "we didn't shut it down, Obama did," but the majority of the country knows who did it. Good luck in your hopeless quest my friend.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    My bad on the second. If you can't tell the difference in the first, then I was right about the rest.

    - - - Updated - - -

    How many times did the government shut down under Reagan? Carter? Neither Bush had a veto spine. Clinton had some shut down time. It is part of our political process Canadian, don't get all upset.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Ron Paul. Your turn.

    Here is some truth, Democrats and lefters in general, are responsible for the mortgage crisis, wiping out middle class wealth, and nationalizing the home mortgage industry and they are off to conquer another industry or two. Probably health and energy, but I bet they want food supply too. Once they control all that and put unions in charge of clothes again they will have nationalized every necessity industry. What % of American households are already on food stamps? Are most big growers beholden to them for subsidies? etc..

    Nixon lied about Watergate. No one died. Obama lied about Benghazi and scapegoated an American citizen.
     
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    Ron Paul?
    http://spectator.org/archives/2011/09/13/the-hypocrisy-of-ron-paul
    Just before last week’s Republican debate at the Reagan Library, Ron Paul released an attack ad targeting his fellow Texan and presidential aspirant Rick Perry. It shows a young Congressman Paul posing with the Gipper in a series of photos and features a portentous voiceover claiming that, while Paul “stood with Reagan,” Perry was a perfidious, Gore-pimping liberal. This ad is brazenly deceptive, but it does provide an edifying glimpse into the true character of a slippery Beltway operator posing as a man of principle fighting the good fight against the corrupt “prags” of the GOP establishment. It reveals that Ron Paul is a fraud of the first order. The sordid reality is that his loyalty to Ronald Reagan lasted only so long as it was politically expedient and his vaunted libertarian principles have proven to be remarkably elastic.



    Here is some truth.

    There is no discernable difference between the Right and the Left when it comes to truth or hypocrisy.

    None.

    That you on the far right or those on the Far Left wave your flags of Rightious indignation- but history is littered with Republicans and Democrats who have lied and cheated and been hypocrites.

    What I find most common when it comes to the extremist positions on the right and the left is how completely sure that they are right-and anyone who disagrees with them is wrong.

    Something very much in common with the extremist Fascist and Marxist movements.
     
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    You think exactly what your heroes, Obama and Maddow tell you to think.

    Your post has been refuted.
     
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    Here is the libertarian influenced Nolan Chart.

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    Again, Obama is not left wing.

    Same as this one I already posted.

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    It is simply untrue that Obama is some radical leftist. By international standards Obama is center right and even by American standards, where no real left wing exists by international standards, Obama would still be a centrist (at an extreme stretch, center-left).
     
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    Obama is a fool - a salesman posing as a leader - nothing more. He is whatever the camera tells him to be.
     
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    I would like to believe you; but the right doesn't seem to believe in equal pay for equal work with actual solutions and counter proposals to the People, instead of just pleading so specially, so often.
     
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    Is that your c+p response to everyone on the left? Because that response had nothing to do with what I said. You're just rambling.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    What was your post about? Do you agree with vouchers or do you prefer a "zip code fits all approach" to education?
     
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    It's imperative you watch the Documentary " Park Avenue " on Netflix
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    I love documentaries. Will have to check that out. Thanks.

    20 Minutes in, is it all about "the poor are poor because we don't tax people enough to make them poor too and close the gap"?
     
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    Man don't the TRUTH hurt.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense. California has super high taxes and a vast wealth disparity issue. Taking from the productive and giving it to the rich and powerful or creating more dependency does nothing to solve poverty.

    The poorest people with no job skills etc... Should maybe move out of the richest city on earth. Move some place they can better afford. Or NY can abandon its leftist ways and high taxation and let people rise up on their own. Like they have been for a long time in our history before the massive welfare state. Capitalism built NY. Capitalism can save those NYers struggling today. Not your dependency programs.
     
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    How is that working for Texas and other low tax, low service States?
     

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