Libya on the brink: Obama to Gadhafi, (*)(*)(*)(*) YOU!

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    Thank you President Obama for a job well done. Mubarak down, Gadhafi down... next, the Republican Tea-Party!







    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/08/21/libya.war/index.html?iref=BN1&hpt=hp_t1

    Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- The 42-year rule of Moammar Gadhafi appeared on the verge of collapse early Monday, with rebel supporters making it to the same Tripoli square where regime loyalists had congregated for months.

    But in a possible indication that the fight is not over, celebrations in Tripoli's Green Square gave way to tension Monday morning after rebels told CNN that they'd heard Gadhafi army forces were heading their way. CNN could not confirm any movement of Gadhafi forces.

    A large fire, meanwhile, could be seen rising over the capital around 4 a.m. Monday from about 10 miles (16 kilometers outside the city).

    The uncertainty came hours after news broke that two of Moammar Gadhafi's sons -- Saif al-Islam and Saadi -- had been arrested by opposition forces. Jumma Ibrahim, a rebel spokesman based in Libya's western mountain region, said both were captured in Tripoli.

    International Criminal Court chief prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo said the court plans Monday to contact authorities associated with those holding Saif al-Islam to try to arrange for his transfer to the Netherlands for an eventual trial for "crimes against humanity." The court, based in The Hague, earlier this summer issued an arrest warrant for Saif Gadhafi as well as his father and uncle Abdullah al-Sanussi.

    Tipping point in Tripoli Saadi Gadhafi, a businessman and onetime professional soccer player, helped set up an April CNN interview with a woman who claimed she'd been raped by government troops. He later told CNN that those behind the attack should be prosecuted.

    There was no immediate reaction from Libyan government officials to the reports. Court wants Gadhafi's son | Who is Saif al-Islam?

    In an audio address broadcast just before midnight Sunday -- his second of the day -- Moammar Gadhafi claimed "very small groups of people who are collaborators with the imperialists" were fighting inside the capital. Should the rebels prevail, Gadhafi said NATO would not protect them and predicted massive bloodshed. To prevent such bloodshed, he said, Libyans, including women, should go out and fight.

    "Get out and lead, lead, lead the people to paradise," he said.

    Just after midnight Sunday, scores of raucous rebel supporters packed Green Square -- the same place where Gadhafi loyalists have congregated regularly -- celebrating, waving the rebel flag and even flashing the "victory" sign.

    NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said Sunday that "the Gadhafi regime is clearly crumbling," and urged the leader to acknowledge defeat.

    "The rebel fighters are in control of most of the neighborhoods in Tripoli," said the rebel spokesman, Ibrahim.

    A main supply route into western Tripoli -- which, earlier Sunday, had been the scene of intense fighting -- was clear early Monday, occupied only by rebels heading toward the capital.

    CNN's Sara Sidner reported around 3 a.m. that the route heading to Green Square was "eerily quiet," with cars passing by checkpoints run by those loyal to the opposition. Between 100 and 150 rebel fighters by then had gathered in the square, only to scatter an hour later amid concerns about possible snipers and an upcoming battle there, in the heart of the city.

    The advance included members of the "Tripoli Brigade," a group of rebel troops who'd once lived in the capital who might help navigate the city. But they weren't all professional soldiers, such as one IT worker who hadn't held a gun before joining the movement a few months ago.

    They entered a city that, after being largely free of large-scale fighting since the conflict began six months ago, became the site of intense drama and significant violence over the weekend.

    Libyan government spokesman Musa Ibrahim told reporters just after 11 p.m. Sunday that some 1,300 people had been killed and about 5,000 wounded in fighting in the previous 12 hours.

    "(The city) is being turned into a hellfire," he said.

    The spokesman denied a report from Arab-language news network Al-Arabiya that Gadhafi's guard had surrendered, calling it "false information."

    Col. Roland Lavoie, a NATO spokesman based at the Joint Forces Command in Naples, Italy, described the situation Sunday as "very dynamic and very tense" after a spate of mostly small-scale skirmishes in downtown Tripoli and near the sea. While there was no sense of massive encounters, there were large movements of troops by both sides outside the city.

    In another sign of possible trouble, the signal for state-run television -- which has long been a forum for pro-Gadhafi views -- repeatedly froze, with the station later claiming there had been "interference" due to a "hostile media campaign." The network reverted to taped broadcasts of previous pro-Gadhafi gatherings.

    A woman in Tripoli said late Sunday that she and others went outside, "screaming" and calling for Gadhafi's ouster -- and had plenty of company.

    "We realized that no one wants him, no one wants this dictator," said the resident, whom CNN is not naming for safety reasons.

    Musa Ibrahim told CNN on Sunday that "more than 65,000 professional men" are fighting in Tripoli, with thousands more flooding in to help defend the regime, and added they "can hold for much longer." He predicted a "humanitarian disaster" unless an immediate ceasefire is called.

    "It's not about who will win," he said. "The world needs to hear this message, that a massacre will be committed in Tripoli if one side wins now."

    Some areas of eastern Tripoli, including the suburb of Tajoura, were out of government control Sunday, according to a Libyan government official who asked not to be named. Rebels set car tires afire along barricades there, the official said.

    Meanwhile, Zawiya -- a key coastal city about 30 miles west of the capital -- appeared under rebel control, with celebratory gunfire and fireworks as some yelled out, "Libya is free!"

    Aref Ali Nayed, an ambassador in the United Arab Emirates for the Libyan rebels' Transitional National Council, said that opposition forces were calling Sunday "Day 1."

    "The reason we declare it 'Day 1' is because we feel Gadhafi is already finished. He is already finished, most importantly, in our hearts," he said. "We no longer fear him."

    The fighters are continuing to get significant support from NATO to maintain pressure on Gadhafi's forces, Lavoie said.

    Ibrahim, the government spokesman, blamed NATO for the conflict and appealed for a cease-fire.

    Libyan anchor waves gun on the air


    "Every drop of Libyan blood shed by these rebels is the responsibility of the Western world, especially NATO's countries," he said. "We hold (U.S. President Barack) Obama, (British Prime Minister David) Cameron and (French President Nicolas) Sarkozy morally responsible for every single unnecessary death that takes place in this country."

    Several U.S. officials -- including President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton -- were getting updates on the situation, officials said.

    "Tonight, the momentum against the Gadhafi regime has reached a tipping point," Obama said in a statement, claiming "Tripoli is slipping from the grasp of a tyrant. ... The surest way for the bloodshed to end is simple: Moammar Gadhafi and his regime need to recognize that their rule has come to an end."

    In the rebel hub of Benghazi, meanwhile, CNN iReporter Sammi Addahoumi showed video of large, boisterous crowds in the city's Freedom Square reacting as reports of the developments played on a large screen.

    "The spirits are quite high," said Addahoumi, a 28-year-old deli manager from South Carolina who said his father fled Benghazi decades ago. "Everyone is expecting Tripoli to fall."

    In the first of his speeches on state television Sunday, though, Gadhafi was still insisting the rebels -- whom he described as "infidels," "traitors" and "gangsters" -- would fail and vowed not to back down.

    "This is the hour of victory," he said. "This hour is the hour of defiance."
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure what Obama did to free Libya but I guess if Reagan can get credit for the Wall coming down what the hell why not.
     
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    Don't forget the big fish!! Osama!!

    Obama knows how to get (*)(*)(*)(*) done with out making indefinite wars at indefinite costs!!
     
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    Obama and Al Queda have defeated Lybia......yayyyy!
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    Good point!
     
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    The people of Libya support Gadhafi as they showed by flooding the streets of Tripoli. They know what's coming with western intervention.

    We do not even know who or what we are fighting for, but we do know that they have some fine crude oil and Gadhafi had plans to introduce a gold-backed economy. You have been propagandized. Congrats.
     
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    I'm watching BBC and the streets in Tripoli are flooded with people and they sure as hell aren't supporting Gaddafi.
     
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    The Tea-Party and Gadhafi together bite the dust once again! Thank you President Obama!
     
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    Does it look like this?

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    this is coming from the same peace loving Libs that call us "War Mongers"?
    The same Libs that accused Bush and the Republicans of sending troops to their deaths for oil?The same Libs that SPIT on the ones that served such as myself when we come home?You do know,Libya is about oil,right?Europes oil interests.
    And now you declare "war" on the Tea Party?
    Who are WAR MONGERERS NOW? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing HYPOCRITES

    And if you think its over with the fall of Tripoli,I have disturbing news for you war mongering Libs:This is just the beginning,and its going to get WORSE.
    So yeah,celebrate

    You guys seriously make me SICK to my stomach with your hypocrisy.
    Grow a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing brain.
     
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    We are supporting chaos as far as I can tell. May those with the most weapons be victorious...I mean, democracy, yeah, let them eat democracy.

    -Gaddafi's speech on 7/1/11 with hundreds of thousands in the streets of Tripoli
     
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    Bull crap! The liberals you speak of our still anti-war! We are Democrats, not liberals! Just like not all Republicans are racist but most racists are Republicans!
     
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    MISSING:​


    The Anti-War Left​


    (Last seen 2002-2008 )​

    REWARD!​
     
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    May I take this time to remind liberals that we didn't do anything in this affair? We were a part-time player who was just going along with the instructions of the NATO commanders.

    You do remember the hundreds of posts stating that do you not?

    Thank NATO, Al Qaeda and the useful idiots who won't be in power when the dust settles.

    Obama was on the sidelines doing nothing but scaring old people and the military with his doom and gloom apocalyptic bile that we'd have to pass an increase in the debt limit or get handed a downgrade.
     
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    And I will remind republicans that Obama is a neo-con and Bush Sr. established our pledge of allegiance to the UN.

    http://truthandliberty.com/Quotes_on_NWO_-_Elite.html
     
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    Po-leeze son!! If Obama gets blamed for everything out if his control then he deserves credit for everything good also!! Bunch of anti-American haters!! If some Repub was in office you would be dancing in the streets right now!
     
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    This thread says otherwise.Democrats have the nerve to call us war mongers,but yet here you all are declaring war on the Tea Party,and celebrating what is most likely to become an even bigger quagmire than Iraq ever was.And please,I have yet to meet ONE racist Republican and I know many.Seems you forget your history that the Democrat party was responsible for much of the segregation in the 60's.Please dont try and BS me.
    anti-war Libs,thats a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing joke there.
     
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    Thank you President Obama! Brilliant stragety! Just brilliant! :winner:
     
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    oh,and might I add that our involvement in Libya was NEVER approved by Congress.
    Hence :Obamas illegal war.
    You can try sugar coating it with the word "kinetic",its still WAR.
     
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    yep,thank you,Obozo,for playing golf and sitting at the beach at Marthas Vineyard while our economy is on fire,4 million Americans unemployed and handing Al Qaeda yet another sanctuary.
     
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    I don't dance when people die sir. You don't know me, so quit making assumptions based on your own experiences.

    Obama gets blamed when he deserves it. But to give him credit when the US was given a subsidiary role in Libya by the UN and NATO is intellectually dishonest.

    I give you Osama kudos. But don't press your luck in Tunisia, Egypt or Libya.

    Let's see if he has what it takes to end the bloodshed in Syria.
     
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    They also conveniently forget all of the wars they put us in during the last century.
     
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