Life after the far right is gone

That's true on the concept of compromise. But the end result of THAT Constitution was that women, blacks and non property owners had no right to vote. How does that fact escape you?

Now, we still see attempts by conservative legislatures all over the country to limit the opportunity to vote. To target and disenfranchise specific segments of our population. And for the only reason is that they tend to vote for the other party. The idea being, if you can't win on your own merits, you'll stack the deck to win. **Edited out Personal Insult**

 

And nobody is paying the mythical 55% number either, and nobody paid over 90% like is claimed in the 1950's either. Total absurdity.

Any person who pays the maximum, also mythical, 39% number is either lying or needs to hire a better accountant. The richest of the rich in this country pay no more than around 24% of the total income they 'claim', and just as many pay nothing. On average the richest people in this country pay no more than 15% in reality. None of them actually claim their actual income.

It's their tax code, you actually think it doesn't work for them? Get a clue.

 

5 of the last 6, Americans wanted the Democrat in office.

On the state level, we see gerrymandering and attempts at voter suppression on an unprecedented level.

Conservatism, in the fiscal sense, is not dying. **Edited out Insults*

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Yeah, isn't it great that our poor don't live in sewage and disease infested squalor!

 

Let's start by stopping the historical revisionism. There was no federal standard for voter eligibility and each state determined their own laws. Women and blacks were voting when they owned land and paid taxes and there was never anything wrong or scandalous about reserving the vote only to those with a stake in this country, who contribute to it's success and perpetuity. We should be doing that today. I'd love to "disenfranchise" the millions and millions of American who suckle off of this country and have no stake in it. Many conservatives agree with me. So stop lying because our feelings on who should and shouldn't vote have nothing to do with race or gender and everything to do with eliminating the conflict of interest that exists when people who subsist on government get to vote to sustain and aggrandize the system that provides for them.

All you on the Left, can you please stop lying.

 

Your blind to the conservative legislative attempts all across the country.

 

Marginal tax rates are 39%. High tax states such as California push the total well over 50%. To claim that nobody is paying that rate is easy, there's no way to prove you right or wrong, so it's irrelevant. The point is, our tax system is so punishing, people naturally look for reprieve. If I had that kind of money, I would tuck as much of it as I could into offshore accounts and not feel a twinge of guilt. And you know what's funny? The richest people in this country are DEMOCRATS and that's exactly what they do.

 

Good Lord, there is no end to ignorance of history. Because of that document, women and blacks got the right to vote despite democrat resistance and your liberal agenda of vilifying keeping our voting system in the hands of actual voters does not detract from that.

 

At least we have some honesty when you say you would deny voting rights to American citizens because they didn't pass your litmus test. How patriotic of you!

Don't (*)(*)(*)(*) on my leg and tell me it's raining when you try to revise the history of the vote in this country. As to the laughable "scandalous" claim about 18th century norms, it's hard to reply in a manner that you can comprehend. It wasn't scandalous to own slaves either. Would you impose that 18th century morality. Wake up. It's 200+ years later.

Let's not get started on who subsists on the government dole. Individual welfare pales in comparison to the corporate version. I live in Idaho, arguable the most conservative state in the union. A welfare state, as are most of the red states. There is hardly a farmer or rancher in this state, who BTW dominates our legislature, that doesn't accept government handouts. **Edited out Insult**

 

The richest people in this country own both parties, and their tax system does them well.

As long as ignorant people do as the corporate media propagates and continue to argue among themselves about which party is the best and blame the poor for all the problems in the world when anyone with half a brain cell knows they have no wealth, ergo no power, the rich will continue to do just fine despite the propaganda and knee deep BS the rest of us have to wade through.

 

Thank you.

You sound silly enough that I think you actually believe that because there was slavery in the late 18 century, everything else people did was wrong.

How is Idaho a welfare state? Oh, I think I know. A few years ago, the Left came up with a study of federal dollars per states and pointed out that many red states receive more federal dollars than they pay. Of course, when you people were saying that, you were purposely omitting that these were TOTAL federal dollars, not social program dollars. So, for example, a state like Texas with it's 11 military bases would of course receive more federal money than it contributes, so would states in which there are large swaths of federal lands, federal projects, contracts, and infrastructure. You keep pushing your little Leftist lie as if it hasn't been thoroughly debunked already. Silly progressives!

 

An old Rightwing conjob.....START talking about Federal income taxes.....claim it's like "55%"....then start adding in all the state and local taxes, ignoring deductions, and then attempt to create the impression that "We're paying more than half our money to the Fed'rul Gub'mint!"

 

I DID say the same thing about the Far Left....you just don't like it when I say the same thing abou the Far Right.

And by even the standard of Reagan and Goldwater....the current vocal Right is FAR Right (even Barry and Ronnie couldn't pass their "Purity Test" today).

One example, as I noted...61% of younger Republicans support marriage equality rights (recent poll).....so quite obviiously the "mainstream" position will be to support them in a few decades or even years....

yet TODAY, the Right opposes it.

So "some day" opposing gay rights....will be like supporting Stalin was in the 30s, compared to today.

 

the left cant exist without someone to blame, pick apart, and cry / soil their diapers over; the right wouldnt exist without the left telling them theyre wrong, applying force to change their ways all the while calling the right "authoritative." the left is never satisfied, they never have been never will be. there will always be something for some sore loser to cry about. as long as there are sad little crybabies there will always be a left and as long as there is a left there will always be a right.

 

the right wingers aren't the ones making the left change its the other way around. so the right are the blamers because they blame the left for blaming them? that doesnt really make sense. the right isnt picking apart anyone. nice try though but "i know you are but what am i" doesnt really work in this instance.

 

Strange, I couldn't help but notice it was the Far Left in political power. Am I delusional? I could've sworn the President is Democratic. And you own the Senate do you not? What about that Republican House? A very slim margin with 201 Democrats.

Easily with a political merger with conservative Republicans, you could have outvoiced the TP, as you did with that meaningless budget act. Which did nothing to address the debt.

Make no mistake: You have political power in this country and therefore political responsibility to the people

You've failed to take that responsibility, in fact you've waived such responsibilities at every turn.

-It's the right's fault with a mere 32 member advantage in the House that the 'recovery' is going slow.

-It's their fault coming off a 65+% approval rating in 2009, you proceeded to push for Health Care. Despite the fact that 63% of voters proclaimed the main issue was Economics!

-You did much the same thing in 2012, except this time it's Gun Control, Immigration and who can forget "Gay Marriage"!?

-These traitors are so economically clueless their only policy is to raise the minimum wage, claim "equal pay" when in fact the 1964 Civil Rights Act already guarantees equal wages.

What have you, the traitors of America done other than to bail out Wall Street, make the Fed stronger? Have you done ANYTHING constructive at all? Or perhaps when the opposition is slain, for the first time we shall see competence from those who can't be bothered to read bills?

You "passed" so-called Comprehensive health care "reform", which did absolutely NOTHING in the way of reform. You just said "We'll stick a bunch of people into the system and they'll figure it out later". Those who were economically savvy tried to warn you of supply and demand, rising costs, etc.

You didn't listen, you don't want to listen. And the only thing saving you now, is some politically naive thought amongst the voting populace that we can take this god forsaken system and 'Improve upon it.'.

The Left didn't want to touch it during the congressional debates, and even recently have stated as much. They themselves don't want to improve on it! And most importantly: It can't be improved on. It exists presently under the guise of executive force and economic viability of the participants. It's a Fixed Economic system that's bound to collapse under its own weight.

The Republicans DID propose a solution: State-based Exchanges. If a New Yorker could buy(and use) Health care from say Montana. That'd lower costs across the entire country.

The Left has rejected this proposal, but it can't say we of the Opposition never gave you proposals.

I'm an Independent Nationalist. It's all the more reason I object to the false narrative of the political hegemony presently in power. I won't enable them to make excuses!

 

That's where you are wrong. Every childish tactic the left comes up with works flawlessly. Sad to say but perhaps we stoop to their level?

 

That's going to be a few hundred years at the very least.

 

The one thing missing out of all of this is the claim of "jobs are number one", something that has been claimed but has always come lowest on the democrat totem pole even though it is highest in polls.

 

I did mention that in the aforementioned link, albeit I said 'Economics'. Which is my bad, the word 'jobs' is more accurate and more at base. This coming from someone who in 2008, was a HS Junior and a hopeful Liberal. But the Liberals showed their true colors, called me a racist and I can proudly say I'm a Nationalist for our once glorious American State.

 

I was a liberal until well into my 30's. Took me longer to grow up. Actually, it took paying attention and seeing the bias and false reports in the media. One in particular sticks in my mind when Pat Robertson ran for President. I watched him preparing for a speech and giving it on CSPAN, a blessing to news reporting, and he had a terrible cold. During his speech, he had to occasionally use his hanky. Everyone knew it. The reporting that night was on one of the main MSM stations. They reported falsely that he had trouble answering a question by "choking up" when it was him using his hanky because of his cold. It is that kind of subtle propaganda that is prevalent in the establishment news.

 

No, one would merely have to hate the God one knows exists irrespective of one's professed belief. You're welcome.

Your premise being clearly bogus, your conclusion merits no attention.

 

My argument about the framers... thoroughly unrefuted.

 

It seems to cause dementia in liberals.

 

These kinds of eventualist arguments have been debunked long ago. The truth is that the American electorate is radically changing, but it's not becoming "more liberal" it's becoming more libertarian. It's drifting towards individual freedom on many issues, in example support for gun rights have never been higher in my lifetime. At the same time America is becoming more pro gay marriage and more pro-life.

Yes, the electorate is changing. If you only just noticed that, you should have been paying attention to... any point in history. It's always changing, but it's not a partisan shift like, well, partisans would like to think. The youth are independent and less partisan than at any point in my lifetime.

To your own bit about the tea party: Gallup has shown that it is demographically fairly representing of the American public at large, except that their more conservative (duh) and more educated. Average age in the tea party is basically average age in the country.