Lindsey Graham: 'No Evidence' White House Directed IRS To Target Conservatives

Then you have a bad memory, it was about perjury, obstruction of justice and subornation of perjury in a federal court concerning the treatment of subordinate workers and rewarding those who offer sexual favors and threatening those who refused them.

Which they did with over 20 people including the hand picked sitting governor going to a federal prison and three of the Clinton's closest friends and business partners going to jail.

Couldn't make what stick, the Flowers investigation was a state investigation and the woman who was denied her rightful promotion in order for Clinton to give it to his mistress in return for her sexual favors won her case before the state employment board but then Clinton pulled a fast legal trick to again deny her her promotion and pay raise. A single mother at that. They had Flowers and Clinton on tape discussing how to lie to the investigators about it and if everyone kept their mouth shut no one would get in trouble. That has been their MO all along, don't talk (Hubbel and McDugal went to jail for refusing to talk) and then just claim you can't remember anything.

So back to the issue here or is all you have such diversions?

 

If you don't know what I mean, then nothing I can do will convince.

Why not?

Because you don't WANT to know that Liberalism uses lying to advance its cause. DO you?

 

Surely you don't think that separate IRS offices around the country just all did it on their own?


I know you're not that stupid, Tom.

 

You mean these two Liberal Democrats with (R)'s after their names?

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Ya just can't make this (*)(*)(*)(*) up!

 

Congress and the press yawned at Woodward and Bernstein in the early stages of Watergate too.

 

False, (again)!

Organizations can "self declare" under the 501C statute, and are bound by its regulations while their application is pending. They can keep their donors secret under 501c4 status BEFORE they are approved.

You've had this pointed out to you several times now, and yet you persist in making the false claim,.

I won't bother with the Brightfart parroting.

 

What?

My point was that certain conservatives here keep claiming that the IRS was conspiring to deny tea party groups the right of free speech.

501c4 status is no necessary to speak freely or conduct poltical activity.

But some conservatives continue to make the false claim (Brightbart and Lindsy Graham included).,

 

And the White House said there was no evidence it was involved so it should all just go away.

 

And if the application is denied or the group runs out of money trying to comply with the endless request for more information the donations will not be tax exempt meaning they aren't going to have the same advantage in raising money the liberal groups who already were granted status have.

What don't you understand that even Democrats have decried the actions the IRS was engaged in and that they have admitted their wrong doing. The only question is who ordered it and the ID testified today that when he asked them they refused to tell him, of course they had one of Lerner's assistant sitting there in ALL the interviews for some strange reason.

 

Hard to gather evidence when every member of the "I dunno nuthin' " Lyingass Obama Adm. is willing to LIE UNDER OATH...or REFUSE TO TESTIFY, isn't it?

NIXON RESIGNED for LESS...a LOT LESS....

 

Or equal access to engaging in their free speech as the liberal groups, that key point seems to have gone over your head.

 

I understand that as well, and I am in support of investigation. I do not believe that it will amount to anything. Already Fox Noise has been punked on its fake story about the number of White House visits.

I would be more inclined to take things the right bring up seriously, if it were not for this continual pattern of overstatment and outright lies.

In any case, that has nothing at all to do with my point.

You don't seem to understand (or want to admit) what was going on as the tea party groups suddenly appeared out of nowhere in the spring of 2010.

Their sudden explosion as fully formed entities, with phone banks, websites, organization, busses, printed literature and the rest was always suspect. It didn't take too long before we began finding out that a group of right wing poltical consultants, PR men and poltical activists were behind most of it. Charles Koch got caught on camera over it. The right wing public relations firm Russo Marsh made a fortune out of it. So would Karl Rove a year and a half later..

When you're in the business of laundering GOP and corprate money into organizations that you're trying to pass off as "grass roots", 501c4 tax status is essential. But not to free speech. Free speech has nothing to do with it, Keeping secrets does.

When you're in the money laundering business, that's one worry that you need not concern yourself with!

Moreover, tea party groups were encouraged to be sloppy and not pushed to follow up diligently on applications.

Once the group was self declared, it could hide its donors.

As long as they could keep things that way until right after the election, it didn't matter.

As many tea party groups discovered when the money abruptly dried up right after the 2010 mid terms.

At that point, who cared whether the questions were answered, or if the group were denied (none were, BTW)?

Certainly not the power brokers in DC who bankrolled the tea party!

They got what they wanted. And they left the rubes holding the bag again.,

 

Holder says Holder wasn't involved, and Lois Lerner says "------------ --- - ---- ---- ---------- ".

Obviously, she is not trying to hide anything.

 

Hey, libs, you guys act like this investigation is over and the One has been cleared. This is just the beginning.

 

What else can they do? They thought Benghazi was OVER last November, too.

 

The author of Agent's article is none other than Sabrina Siddiqui, Spokesperson U.S. Department of Treasury.

Ya just can't make this (*)(*)(*)(*) up! LOLOL!

 

Will you retract this statement if it turns out that he's right?

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Well, seeing as the current evidence is pretty much all there is to be had, and it all points to this being a localized thing, and that this whole thing just reeks to high heaven of witch hunt...

...Question. How do you think the American people enjoy the republicans grasping at straws, desperately looking for a scandal to abuse?

 

I wouldn't. Graham is a POS anti-liberty assmunch. He needs to go regardless.

In the military if this happened at a battalion level the seniors would take responsibility because it happened "on their watch". The fact is that their seniors knew for a long time and as government servants it was their duty to bring this to light, not cover it over. It was on their watch. There is evidence that last summer this was raised to a level where Obummer could be informed and he was not.

We all know it is for plausible deniability--they all play that game, but it still means he needs to (*)(*)(*)(*) can many of these people instead of allowing them to do dumb stuff like refuse to resign, get transferred, and have leave with pay.

Most Americans are afraid of the IRS. Any polls that aren't slanted show that this is unsettling to American citizens. I think most people don't like the politicking but if you asked people whether or not they would like to see these people held accountable in the same way we are with our dealings with them I'm sure they would all concur 100%--except the type of extreme partisans who also write "white guilt" on their own faces.

 

Prove it, prove there had been an increase in applications. Post the numbers.

 

Free speech is guaranteed. I don't see anywhere in the Constitution where equal access to free speech is guaranteed. If that was the case, we'd all have our own hour long cable news talkie.

 

Uh.....The equal protection clause of the 14th amendment for one.

 

I'm just curious, why would you accept these figures? The government has apparently lied about its figures en masse before, see also republican response to polling numbers, debt numbers, and employment figures.

 

Equal treatment under the law is not guaranteed while Obama voters are allowed to work at the IRS.

 

As if there was ever a time that the none of the IRS employees had voted for the current President during previous administrations. lol

 

Yes, that's the question, how should the media report on a travesty, when there is no evidence that the travesty took place....
Perhaps the people at CNS, who were so good at making up Kenyan Birth Certificates, can forge some White House emails, that would be the link that people are looking for, something like "Dear IRS, Go medieval on their Teaparty Ass signed Barack"
Something that would fool the same morons who's hopes clung to the Kenyan BCs.