LINK Between Governor's PARTY, & COVID, Per Capita DEATH RATES

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes to your first question.

    Semantics and word choice are important elements of the art of propaganda, as Edward Bernays noted a century ago.

    In theory, 'pandemic' has a slightly different meaning than 'epidemic', but they are both terms by those who brought us the Swine Flu some years back, and various other things.

    When a virus is engineered for gain of function with tax payer dollars, and then turned loose on the public, are you suggesting that is NOT a sinister series of events?
     
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    Um, hello-- I think you forgot one-- American FOOTBALL!

    Basketball though, I thought had a precursor or two. I think I remember reading, in some standardized test, that the Aztecs or the like played something similar except, with them, it was a real sport. None of this 10-ft. rim in a game filled with 7 1/2 ft players. Their game had a 50 ft high basket. The scoring must have been about as frenetic as a modern soccer match.
     
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    That was in fact the UK but it was a case of an overzealous police officer dealing with a particularly obnoxious protester. The protester was not detained for any length of time and there were no charges brought. At the end of the day, using gay as an insult is not something to approve of even if you are levelling the accusation at a horse. It's something that was picked up and run with by the likes of Breitbart and barely registered in the sensible British news media.
     
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    Of course! There are only two gaps in your argument, though. Where is there evidence of the engineering of this virus for, "gain of function," or for any purpose requiring its intentional release upon the public; as well as the evidence that it was purposely unleashed?

    Actually, either one of those would be MAJORLY important, mind-blowing, & sinister, and something I would be keenly interested in seeing, if it existed.
     
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    For those of us with open and curious minds, for those of us who basically ignore the MSM, this matter of GOF engineering between UNC Chapel Hill and Wuhan is old news indeed.

    If you do have an open and curious mind, you can find knowledge here: Digital Freedom Platform | London Real

    There are many authors shown there, including David E. Martin.

    It's there, if you are bold enough to expose yourself to it. Best of luck sir.
     
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    UK. I guess "British Australian, living in Australia" didn't give away that I am British born.
     
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    It's still HAPPENED! That's bad enough. It may have been an overzealous police officer, but that officer would not have acted in that way without the encouragement of an authoritarian speech law on the books.

    You can disapprove of it while disagreeing with it being illegal.

    Gee, I wonder why!
     
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    Gee, I think that AMERICAN football might qualify to be in the list!
     
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    I live in the DRC and in a city of over a million. We still have zero deaths and if it wasn't for the UN our cases would be under 10. Still our case total is only about 30. We began social distancing using Ebola protocols in January and much more stringent travel rules for 4 months. Even today you have to take a test and wear a mask on every flight. People don't wear masks often but we all carry one for when it's required by building rules.
    Yeah it hurt, personal movement was restricted but goods not so much now though that routines have formed, but a country as poor as we are with a population of 84 million that still counts Covid death totals in the hundreds, 8 per million, should be proud.

    I should add that nearly all of the nation's cases are confined to the ignorant rich and their victimized workers.
     
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    Developed from rugby. Not a purely American game at all.
     
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    How good is the testing?
     
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    Sorry, I must have skipped a line, because I read, "British Australia," which seemed an odd way to put it, but I figured you wanted to make sure I knew you didn't live with an aboriginal tribe, in the Outback.
     
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    I'm glad to hear that the D. R. Congo's numbers are genuinely so great! The wiki link I posted, tracking all countries, puts your nation way ahead of not just South Korea, but ahead of all countries, save 7 (really 6, because according to @Statistikhengst , Tanzania just stopped counting). I hope that @chris155au read your post; he seems to feel the Covid restrictions make businesses unable to operate, rather than business merely being slower because people, right now, are more reluctant to do non-essential shopping.

    I had noticed that, though there were a lot of Far East Asian nations among those with the lowest per capita deaths (plus the west Pacific Islands of Papua New Guinea & New Zealand), there were three African countries: yours, Eritrea, & Burundi (those others being in the #1 & #2 lowest spots, respectively). It hadn't occurred to me that Ebola would have provided your continent with the experience to excel in preventing the spread of Covid. But I hadn't realized it, if Ebola had stricken your entire continent. Do you think that Ebola experience is also behind the east coast country of Eritrea's success?
     
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    I know that it is sourced back to rugby and, actually soccer, as well. But there is no denying that American football is a much different game from either of those others, starting with the idea of having distinct, "plays," each from a, "line of scrimmage," in which only one team has possession (barring a turnover) for a set of plays (downs); there is no such thing as a, "first down," marker, in rugby, is there? I could go on, if you really think that's necessary.
     
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    The city I'm in won't let you on a plane without a test and you can't step foot in a hospital without a test. The tests mainly come from the WHO.
     
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    Not really that different though. The object being to touch down in the opposition's end with a funny shaped ball. Rugby league (spits) has a similar rule to the first down rule where the play stops after a successful tackle and if you haven't scored after 6 phases you have to kick for goal or to give away possession if you are out of range.
    The forward pass is what really sets American football apart IMO.
     
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    I think that's a big part of the reason you are doing so well then. Early isolation of people who test positive being the ball that many in the west dropped.
     
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    Yeah there are a few games around the world that involve putting a spherical object in a hole of some kind. Often it was the head of a fallen enemy or of a sacrificial victim.
    Basketball is the only modern game of it's kind though apart from the English game of netball which is actually a derivative of basketball.
    I may be wrong about this but I think the guy who developed the game in an American college or school was actually a Canadian. I'd have to check that out.
    I always find it amusing that originally it was played with a peach basket instead of a net and it took about 30 years before someone came up with the idea to cut a hole in the bottom. Previous to that they would have to use a ladder to get the ball out each time someone scored. :roflol:
     
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    I should add the UN has an office here and they have strict but totally ignored by their people rules when travelling but testing every passenger not on the list. They are our biggest source of infections. It's mostly young Congolese that work for them and their families immediately take charge if they fall ill. No deaths yet but we'll not miss them when they leave. We'll miss their money just not their disease spreading.
     
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    After adjusting for confounding factors such as state population density

    And

    The analysis covered March 15 to December 15, 2020, and included the number of SARS-CoV-2 tests, positive tests, COVID-19 case diagnoses, and COVID-19 fatalities. The researchers used a sophisticated statistical tool called a Bayesian negative binomial model to estimate, for each day in the nine-month study window, the relative risks or chances of getting tested, testing positive, getting COVID-19, or dying of COVID-19, for people in 26 GOP-governed vs. 25 Democrat-governed states. Washington, D.C. was treated as Democrat-governed.

    The researchers were aware that many other factors, including the natural progression of the pandemic from early waves in urban areas, such as New York City and Seattle, to later waves in rural areas, might have contributed to differences between Republican- and Democrat-led states. However, they attempted to correct for these confounding factors in their analysis.

    Announce a study with a predetermined bias.... "Control" or hell eliminate the data that you dont like to achieve the preconceived outcome.. Then claim anyone that points it out is "against science".
     
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    Oh, I think that Tanzania stopped counting a while ago.
     
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    That was going to lead-off my second set of, "innovations," that make it a different game, just as are checkers & Chinese checkers (or as a calculator is not just a new-fangled abacus). The forward-pass, the field goal, the extra-point, the safety, all different ways of scoring other than the touchdown, & all with different point values (other than the infrequent 2-pt extra point, which is, then, worth the same as a safety).

    Yours just seems an overly-generalized description, to claim that they are the same game. Among board games, for example, circling a board is often part of the objective, or completing a course, as in Chutes & Ladders, and Candyland: that doesn't make, whichever came second, a copy or another version of the earlier one.

    Thanks for the info about rugby, anyway; I wasn't aware they have a series of "phases," that might equate with a series of downs. It was my, uneducated, American belief that, after any tackle, rugby has a, "scrum," in which a player from either team could get the ball. If this is not so, the two, I will admit, have more in common than I'd previously thought.
     
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    Rugby has field goals. Both types have extra points after touchdowns (tries) scored by kicking between the posts. There are also penalty kicks and drop kicks.
    I'm not saying American football isn't different, it's just that most parts of the game are derived from rugby except the forward pass.
    American football is closer to rugby league than union but since league is derived from union it all goes back to the famous private school and their departure from football (soccer) in the end.

    I've been thinking about starting an International sports bar thread where we can discuss the history, culture and current matches of sports from around the world.
    Probably ought to do it before some Karen complains to management about thread derailing.
     
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    What you are talking about there is a ruck or maul in open play. The scrum is more akin to your snatch to the quarterback (I forget its name)where you line up opposite each other at the beginning of each new phase.
    Another major difference is when you change the whole team after you lose possession. In rugby union we just man up and get it back. ;)

    edit, is it called the scrimmage?
     
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