LIVE Stream: Donald Trump DESTROYS Hillary Clinton In New York City Speech (6-22-2016

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  1. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Donald Trump takes a very strong shot at Hillary Clinton in this morning's speech.
    He's firing on all cylinders. Hitting Hillary on the fake "landing under fire" and other giant lies that the lamestream media glossed over.

    The actual speech begins at 21:20 in the video.
    This is a live stream post.

    [video=youtube;Zqypz6Atq3I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqypz6Atq3I[/video]


    The fight is ON children. He's not going to pull any punches.
    This is going to be fun to watch.
     
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  2. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that "sniper fire" thing is really a gigantic scandal.

    Does the OP not appreciate the irony of Donald Trump accusing someone else of lying?

    Does the OP not appreciate the irony of Donald Trump demanding that Hillary release the transcripts of her speeches, while he continues to refuse to release his tax returns?

    And then there's the conspiracy theories and crap sources, like "Clinton Cash" and "Crisis of Character", both of which have been thoroughly panned for errors and falsehoods.

    Is Hillary perfect? Of course not.

    Is Trump in any position to criticize her? Hell no.
     
  3. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Making things up in an attempt at stolen valor doesn't disgust you?

    Show me where Hillary's speeches are being audited by the IRS.
    You can whistle past the graveyard all you want. The ads of politicians cannot be censored by networks like their scrubbed clean "news" shows.
    Trump never left anybody to die. Especially his supposed friends.
    So hell yes.
     
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stolen valor? Did she impersonate a veteran or get an award?

    I'd think this would be a more egregious case of "stolen valor."

    “I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

    He was talking about being lucky that he didn't get an STD, BTW.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow is that the best you can do? LMAO !!!
     
  6. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Well, this discussion is off to a great start.

    Are teleprompters a good thing now?
     
  7. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He destroyed her.
     
  8. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah. So this is how Trump is going to make America great again.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still not addressing the issues. Just more ducking and attempting to derail. .

    - - - Updated - - -

    You obviously didn't take the time to watch it.
     
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    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Trump or myself?
     
  11. raytri

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    "Stolen valor"? Don't be a drama queen. You say she "made things up." She says she misremembered, and quickly apologized and corrected herself. Either way, it's a tiny thing.

    This is about #9875 on the list of things that are important.

    Um ... the whole IRS audit thing is a complete crap excuse.

    #1, the IRS says there's no reason Trump can't release his returns even if they are under audit.

    #2, Indeed, the president who began the tradition of releasing returns -- Nixon -- was under audit when he released his

    #3, It doesn't explain why Trump hasn't released returns from before 2009, which Trump admits have already cleared the audit process.

    Were you unaware of this, or are you so partisan you just ignore it?

    Um, okay.

    Neither did Hillary. Benghazi was a tragedy, not a scandal.

    Meanwhile, Trump lies constantly and obviously, seems to have committed both tax fraud and straight up fraud, either lied about the value of his property in court or lied about it on his federal disclosure forms, constantly flip flops depending on who he is talking to -- often within the same day -- and more and more. He has no business being anywhere near the Oval Office.
     
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    I agree the sniper fire thing is not important. But it does come in to show a pattern.

    I actually think the part about Bill taking money from China, while Hilary was negotiating with them was more powerful. That and how he laid out Hilary getting us in to Libya and then letting Stevens die.
     
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    I watched it live and it was very weak. Same old rehashed crap coming from a pathological liar. As GHW Bush used to say:"not gonna do it". If Trump wants to win, he needs to concentrate on the issues like renegotiating trade deals in favor of the American workers and better border security. At this point, he really needs to sharpen his message, get more specific about his solutions and quit this silly junior high school style "crooked Hillary" crap. The kind of weak assed garbage he spewed forth today only plays well with the Ditto-Head, Hannitized nit wits who wouldn't vote for Hillary if she was running against Hitler. I am certainly no Clintonite, but she will beat him like a rented mule if this is all he's got. If he tries this crap in a head up debate, she will make him look like a monkey just like she did to the lynch mob from the GOP congress last October.
     
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    Watched the whole thing.

    I'm not a big fan of either but if this is the best he's got I feel Hillary may have nothing to worry about, we've heard it all before.
     
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    if everything stays the same, Hillary will beat Trump.

    only way Trump wins is if Hillary is indicted or some horrible (*)(*)(*)(*) in her past comes to light.
     
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    I think that it's pretty clear.

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    No really, an adult male running for office actually said that.
     
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    You dont know that it wasn't directly caused by her emails getting hacked, and someone being able to see the back and forths on security concerns around the compound. If someone did get into those emails, it could have revealed the compound to be a ripe target.

    Aside from that and not up in the air at all is that she lied to the family members of the fallen by assuring them theyd get the maker of the video. She knew it wasnt about the video, but chose to tell that to the families.
    Plenty of scandal around Benghazi IMO, and it's being investigated....as is her email practice in general.


    A candidate under investigation....now thats someone with no business being anywhere near the Oval office.
     
  18. raytri

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    Maybe. But that starts to get to the "how would you fare if everything you said was public and put under a microscope."

    She has been accused of lying because she repeated a story her mother told her repeatedly about how she was named, which turned out to be not possible. (She was supposedly named after Sir Edmund Hillary, but he didn't climb Everest until several years after she was born). That isn't lying; that is believing something you were told when you were very little, and have had no reason to question since.

    So much of the "Hillary is a liar" stuff is of that ilk. Does she spin things hard? Like any politician, yes. But I don't see those as significant.

    Whitewater? The Clintons LOST money on that, and were never found to have done something wrong.

    And in any case, Trump is such a gigantic liar that any criticism of Hillary on that score can be pointed back at him tenfold. It's not even close.

    All of Bill's speeches were vetted by the State Department agency responsible for those things. They followed the rules. There is no indication that his activity had any effect on the negotiations.

    Most of which was bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Yes, she was a leading advocate of toppling Qaddafi. That was actually a good idea, as he was threatening to commit genocide on his own people. We accomplished it without a single American casualty, and installed a moderate government in Tripoli. That was a major success.

    What Hillary critics are doing is then using 20/20 hindsight to criticize her. The moderate government turned out to be fairly weak, allowing militias to gain power. This was neither obvious from the beginning, nor would it have been a good argument for NOT stopping a genocide.

    As for Benghazi, nobody "let Stevens die." That's just bull(*)(*)(*)(*) right-wing propaganda. Benghazi was a tragedy, but it's not the scandal the right-wing fervently hoped it would be.
     
  19. RichT2705

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    ...who is not named Donald Trump, but standard Democrat practice of trying to smear someone as a racist noted.
     
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    43% of Americans know Clinton is a liar, a fraud, and a criminal. They'll still vote for her. Trump just has to get 50%+ to see him as the lesser of two evils.

    Unlike all other Republicans, Trump doesn't fight with one arm tied behind his back. We're finally fighting on even terms with the Democrats. I love it.
     
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    Wow! Great baseless speculation you've got there. Never mind that there is literally ZERO evidence to support it.

    #1, it's not at all clear that was a lie. There was a lot of confusion in the early going, as there is in any crisis. Further, there is no actual conflict between "the attack was made by terror-connected groups" and "it was sparked by the video." Further, sometimes you can't tell people everything you know, for security reasons.

    Yes, but you are a partisan. Your opinion is both predictable and unimportant.

    Both Benghazi and her e-mail have been exhaustively investigated -- and come up with nothing in the case of Benghazi, and little more than "not a good idea" in the email case.

    Obviously you have never heard of "innocent until proven guilty." Hell, Hillary hasn't even been CHARGED with anything, and you've already pronounced her guilty.

    Meanwhile, you don't care that Trump lies on his tax returns and is being sued in multiple class actions for fraud. Nice double-standard you have there.
     
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    I love how partisans claims Clinton is a fraud and a criminal, despite those claims being objectively untrue.

    Meanwhile, they're backing Trump -- who is a WAY bigger liar, an OBVIOUS fraud, is being SUED for fraud in multiple class-action lawsuits, claims one of his properties is worth $50 million on his federal disclosure forms but only $1.5 million in a property-tax lawsuit, and has clearly broken the law on numerous occasions (for instance, having his charity make political donations).

    As another poster put it, Hillary may be a liar, but she lies like a politician. Trump lies like a three-year-old.
     
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    90% of people who actually listened to what he said wouldn't vote for Clinton for anything and would vote for anyone else but her.
     
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    As I said, not as important. Both are liars.

    If you can tell yourself that big payouts to her husband, during a time she was dealing with China, was not intended to sway things. That's fine, but I would think most folks would have a hard time believing that. If she was a CEO. of a publicly traded company, and something like that went down regarding where to locate a new factory, she would be charged with taking a bribe.

    You call it bull(*)(*)(*)(*) when it comes from Trump, but hard spin when Hilary does the same thing.

    And yes her decisions, along with others in State, to deny requests for security, to keep an ambassador there when even the Red Cross and England had pulled out and to have him in Benghazi rather then Tripoli. Kinda left him hanging out there. While maybe not intentional, this goes to judgement.
     
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    Your message is that of a blind partisan and a Clintotron submissive minion. By your message makes it clear you didn't listen at all. It is always foolish for a Democrat sheeple to try to pretend to be neutral.

    What has become clear is that most people really don't care about the truth or issues whatsovever. Rather, they just chant talking points recited to them by the corporate media.
     

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