Lying Jack Smith’s Case Against Trump Appears to Be Falling Apart.L

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  1. Zorro

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    Lying Jack Smith’s Case Against Trump Appears to Be Falling Apart.

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    Hammered like Fani's.

    'Special Counsel Jack Smith's efforts to imprison Donald Trump for mishandling classified documents have hit a few snags recently, and the latest snag is, indeed, a big one.'

    Well, Bribed Joe stole classified documents out of a SCIF while in the Senate and illegally retained them for 30 years.

    But Bribed Joe is not Lying Jack's political enemy, Donald Trump is, as Lying Jack's job will be over as soon as Trump is sworn in, either he will have resigned by then, or this corrupt double dealing election fixing lying sonofabitch will be fired on the spot.

    Lying Jack Smith crapped all over Attorney-Client privilege.

    "Special Counsel Jack Smith could be blocked from using evidence against Donald Trump contained in grand jury investigation files, which were transferred to the former president's Florida classified documents case this week, a former prosecutor has suggested," reports Newsweek. "In 2023, a grand jury in Washington, D.C., heard evidence from witnesses—including Trump's attorney, Evan Corcoran—while considering whether charges should be brought against the former president and others for hoarding classified documents. However, Trump and his co-accused were later indicted in Florida and, under federal rules, the grand jury files were transferred on Monday to Aileen Cannon's court."

    'Judge Cannon controls what evidence can be included—especially testimony that violated attorney-client privilege.'

    Lying Jack Smith used a Grand Jury in DC to bring a FL case, for obvious reasons, in the Biden +95 district he drew an unjust Grand Jury, but, 'because the case isn't going to be prosecuted in DC, the rulings made as part of the grand jury investigation are not binding on Cannon. She can exclude Corcoran as a witness by upholding the claim of privilege. She can preclude SCO Smith from using any evidence that was obtained in an improper manner. That's the risk that' Lying Jack 'Smith ran by conducting the case in the fashion he did.'

    'Leftists have been routinely triggered by Judge Cannon's rulings—because she's not a rabid leftist like Judge Engoron, who literally ruled that Trump should pay a civil fine of nearly half a billion dollars for a non-crime with no victim.'

    Read the whole thing and discuss.
     
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  2. Cybred

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    Biden, took documents and had them

    Trump, took documents and had them

    Neither trump nor Biden are being charged with any crime because of this.

    Biden, when asked for the documents back promptly gave them up to the appropriate authority's.

    trump, when asked for the documents back did not give them up to the appropriate authority's but instead tried to keep them.

    Biden is not being charged for keeping the documents because he gave them back when asked

    trump is being charged for keeping the documents because he did not gave them back when asked
     
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    Correction @Cybred.... VICE PRESIDENT Biden had the document for 30 years and Biden alerted the authorities, the authorities did not alert him... Dana Remus was going through the documents at Penn Biden in May 2022...6 months before the November lie we were told...

    The documents VICE PRESIDENT Biden had would have been stolen from SCIFs.... Biden had his in 7 locations unprotected and not locked up..... where Trump had his locked up and 24/7 secret service watching his... and yes there had been a SCIF located at Mar-a-lago, whether that was where the declassified documents were no one has said...

    Trump, THE PRESIDENT, declassified the documents before he left office.... so his documents were not classified, but were declassified as shown in the memo he wrote...
    and yes the court documents wording of "MARKED classified" has a differ meaning than "classified"
     
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    Trump supporters, you are missing the best potential outcome of this slamdunk case.

    Cannon needs to let this case proceed, convene the jury.....and......while the case is underway but before the jury is deliberating and a verdict can be rendered, take over the verdict from the jury and simply dismiss the case. That way double jepoardy attachs and Agent Oranges' skates on the doc case. It is that simple if the judge is in someone's pocket.
     
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  5. FatBack

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    Biden never had the authority to take the documents to begin with no more than you or I did, so you can just stop right there.....

    But of course it's always different when a Democrat breaks the law..... Different different, different different
     
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    Read please.
    Biden, took documents and had them

    Trump, took documents and had them

    Neither trump nor Biden are being charged with any crime because of this.

    Biden, when asked for the documents back promptly gave them up to the appropriate authority's.

    trump, when asked for the documents back did not give them up to the appropriate authority's but instead tried to keep them.

    Biden is not being charged for keeping the documents because he gave them back when asked

    trump is being charged for keeping the documents because he did not gave them back when asked
     
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  7. Cybred

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    Biden, took documents and had them

    Trump, took documents and had them

    Neither trump nor Biden are being charged with any crime because of this.


    Biden, when asked for the documents back promptly gave them up to the appropriate authority's.

    trump, when asked for the documents back did not give them up to the appropriate authority's but instead tried to keep them.

    Biden is not being charged for keeping the documents because he gave them back when asked

    trump is being charged for keeping the documents because he did not gave them back when asked
     
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    The thing is, when we're talking top secret documents, possession is the only requirement for a violation of the law.
    Intent is a DOJ imposed requirement.

    So both biden and trump by all accounts have violated the law.
    But
    What a democrat does is political.
    What a republican does is criminal.
     
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    You can make all the excuses you want the fact of the matter is is that Biden committed crimes by taking the documents to begin with.

    But of course that's different because Democrat.... Different different, different different..
     
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    I do love how y’all completely leave out Pence

    I guess that doesn’t fit your narrative though so it’s omitted.

    And refusing to comply with and impeding a federal investigation is also illegal
     
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  11. Cybred

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    So did trump.
     
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    Ok lets add pence.
    Why haven't they each been charged with unauthorized possession of secret documents, plus whatever else can be drummed up?
     
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    The president has the authority to while a senator does not.

    Joe Biden had no more authority than you or I do
     
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    Where are you getting this from?
     
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    What you just described sounds like a custody battle morphed into election interference.
     
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    Certainly not the place where you think a senator has the authority to retain classified documents for 30 years
     
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    Show me what law says the president is not authorized to have classified documents.
     
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    Again, where are you getting this 30 yrs.
     
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    To take home with him?
     
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    So it's more than okay for a senator to take the documents home with him?

    Who do you think has more leeway and authority with classified documents?
     
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    Trump was not charged
    Biden was not charged.
    What's the problem?
     
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    Just keep making excuses and pretending like Biden didn't do anything wrong and the justice system isn't corrupt
     
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    What excuse?
    Trump was not charged
    Biden was not charged.

    These are facts.
     
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    What I find baffling is that if innocent of the charges why has he not insisted on speedy trial executions rather than spending millions delaying them? At the very least Florida where the judge would kiss his butt given the chance. Shoot she probably already has.
     
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    Possibly on the advice of legal counsel?
     
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