Magpul pulling out of Colorado...

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  1. onalandline

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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More than a hissy fit. Unnecessary regulations.
     
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    Unnecessary in the eyes of some, necessary in the eyes of others.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those regulations will do nothing to stop what they claim.
     
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    Unfortunately, a great business leaves out state because of stupid ass people.
     
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    I'm glad Magpul stuck to their guns (no pun intended) but I feel sorry for all the employees that lost their jobs.
     
  8. Defender of Freedom

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    One of the many problems gun control, nobody considers the economics of the gun manufacturing in america. Its one of the few things we still make here, talk about shipping jobs out of state. The EPA is shutting down lead production plants, causing ammo shortages and price jumps (except for the federal government of course).
     
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    Have to love the lefts thinking. They want gun control to save the lives of children but want to arm Al Qaeda with guns to kill and kidnap children.
     
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    Eh... most of the lead used for bullets is either imported or recycled car batteries.

    TheFirearmsBlog's owner wrote Serria bullets, and Serria stated the impact of the lead plant closing would be minimal.
     
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    Yes, but by shutting down the primary plant, you force the secondaries to make up for it. If the EPA shuts those down too, we may have a problem.
     
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    That's like saying your all for motherhood but against children.
     
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    Those secondaries are in Canada and China.

    The plant that is being shut down accounts for very little of the lead used for ammunition as most of the lead is recycled lead.

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    Or like saying "I don't really support Hitler's policies, but I think we should support the troops".
     
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    Except that's a dead issue at this stage.
     
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    If Oregon started implementing a lot of policies I didn't agree with I would likely move to Arizona and I would be glad to be free from a state government I disagree with though I would feel sorry for the family and friends I left behind. It's not contradiction it's being happy I was able to get free but still being upset for the effects of my absence.
     
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    You know I don't really care about Colorado or lost taxes or what the anti-gunners think. What's important is that a gun accessories manufacturer is moving to a pro gun state and there won't be laws passed there that impact production or costs. You anti's can push em out of your states all you want....it just ensures that the laws of supply and demand will be met without the added costs of all the crap laws pushed on them. :wink:
     
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    Since I own no guns, nor live in Colorado, its has absolutely no impact on me personally. In fact if they ever made ownership of handguns illegal in the United States, I could honestly care less. I have better things to worry about then whether or not I own a handgun.
     
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    It applies to today's nationalism as well.

    Our leaders send troops to place X, where they murder innocent civilians, and we must support the troops as if they were drafted and forced to carry our inhuman orders...?
     
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    Okay, but if those are the secondary plants and they are in foreign countries, does the UN arms treaty come into play?
     
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    I am not sure as I have not read the text of the treaty.
     
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    Oh boy. That's Sierra bullets, not whatever you wrote.
    The lead plant that's being closed is the last one that smelts ore, which is a very dirty business. It will also effect domestic production of Bismuth, which is a by product of lead smelting. Almost all of the lead used in the US is recycled. We already buy a bunch of metals from China, either directly, or because they own the mineral rights to American mines.
    The small arms treaty could have no effect on the sale of lead, unless it was already made into loaded ammunition.
    As for Magpul leaving CO., that's been a long time in the making. It's been a big deal in the various gun forums. The owner of ArmaLite came under a lot of pressure from a lot of people in the industry, because of new laws that were passed in Illinois. He was torn between his convictions, and his loyalty to his work force. In the end, he sold the company to another company that builds precision rifles.
    This move by Magpul will bring a lot of pressure to bear on other companies in the firearms and gun accessories biz in places like Connecticut, New York, and anywhere else where *******s are ruining America.
     
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    I doubt that some of the biggest arms companies like S & W, Remmington and Colt will remain in Mass., NY, and Conn. much longer. These states are far worse places than Colorado to do business.

    These arms makers are still useful to the politicians on the Left Coast because they make arms for their State Police and bodyguards. But that is not going to be enough of a reason to counter their fanatical intolerance of individual arms ownership. They'll all be gone within 10 years.
     
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    They are not standing up for gun rights--they are retreating. If they were standing up, they would have stayed and exercised a voice for guns in Colorado. Regardless, I really don't care if high-capacity magazines get restricted. I don't get wrapped up in the wants of one-way range warriors.
     
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    To be honest, neither have I. Nor do i know if it even passed. It would have to be approved by the senate in the US for it to effect us.
     
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    So you anti-gunners only care about things if they affect you personally? Shows your true character.
     

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