Major Al Qaeda Meeting Missed By Intel

This is an embarrassing omission for our security. So much money is drained: CIA, FBI, NSA.. Obama should cut their stuff at least by 50% and make the rest of them work harder.

 

he can't. Only congress can do that as they are the ones that must approve all spending bills.

 

I didnt say anything about killing... I said put on trial. Killing is the cowards way out in a country that prides itself on giving even the worst criminals a fair trial.

How many innocent people got in the way of Obama's drone strikes? We know of at least one16 yr old boy, dont we?

 

If a drone was on to them that's all the time needed to take them all out.

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Trial? They're at war with us. You either kill them or throw them into a POW camp until the war is over.

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The money used for White House CIA/SOG is a secret slush fund. Congress does not know how much money is being used for covert operations ran out of the WH.

 

Of course that's only half the story. We're being punked on the world stage and that simply cannot be denied.

Easy, this administration is much too busy. What with the denying of scandals, disparaging their domestic enemies and seeing racists around every corner.

It's tough work I hear.

 

If a drone was onto them many of them would be dead.

But one can hardly expect drones to be minutes away from any given point.
And its not like the bad guys are stupid, they'd know they had at least x time before any response could be mustered.

 

really? and just what would your strategy be in response to this supposed punking?

Which is why this administration has killed more AQ leaders than anyone else. Which is why there are drones in the region in the first place.

I find it amazingly arrogant that many hold this ridiculous expectation of intel in remote places like yemen, and remote combat are infallible and the only reason bad guys get away is because the administration is "too busy" or incompetent.

 

I would not call it "being punked" as much as reaping what we sow and a wake up call.

The wake up call is that despite our 1 Trillion dollar/year in total military spending, we are impotent against any country with nukes.

We have been running around the world pushing around little countries who do not have nukes. Now when Russia does the same we cry foul.

This is just an extreme case of pot calling kettle black.

 

How many is that?

 

Obama and Kerry both admitted that AQ's stongest presence in the world is in Syria. They are fighting to continue their genocide and build a sharia caliphate safe-haven state there. The USA continue to knowingly help them get weapons and cash.. I think it's obvious why they didn't attack the meeting. I'll bet they had representation at the meeting, probably discussing how they can work together to achieve their mutual strategic interests. They are allied with AQ, which is the inconvenient fact everybody can't help but ignore. They don't provide evidence to prove those they do kill are terrorists; presumably they aren't.

Why won't USA attack AQ in Syria? Figure out the answer to this question, and you should be closer to the answer as to why they didn't attack this meeting.

 

They are outsmarting our expensive high tech spy gadgets.

 

They are outsmarting our expensive president.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/130146-decimated-al-qaeda-holds-largest-largest-meeting-years/

 

It is almost like the world is mocking our weak president and giving him the finger. Putin expands Russia and fly's circles around US war ships, NK shoots missiles into SK and terrorist hold huge gatherings.

 

I pay other people to do that, but if it were my job, (And IF I was saddled with the silly notion of being the world police) I would start with showing no weakness. I would then ensure that I used my strength to protect those who needed it.

Outdoing the other class dunce(s) does NOT make one Valedictorian.

"Arrogant"? Heh, that's a funny word to use in describing those that speak the truth. ALL governments are too busy and incompetent. It comes with the job as they are under no real pressure to produce anything, and are much too busy using laws, force and BS to ensure their survival.

They are the tail that wags the dog.

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The president pays the CIA/SOG out of a special fund. It's their job to locate and decimate the bad guys. I'm not giving the president an out here, but he can't be with the spy guys 24/7 while they do their job around the world.

 

How exactly would they know they had x amount of time? Are you saying they have inside connections to tell them where drones are at? Unless you knew exactly where the drones were flying you wouldn't know how much time you had before the strike.

 

We do know Al Qaeda is from the Wahhabi religious sect in Saudi Arabia which was where Bin Laden was from. You could say Wahhabi is the national religion of Saudi Arabia where Saudi royals and Wahhabi's are intertwined by marriage dating back many centuries. And if Saudi Arabia is our ally then so must the Wahhabis be as well. And our enemies are there enemies as well. It would be hard to believe Obama and his cronies planned this alliance with Al Qaeda without most of the government knowing about it.

 

My guess, as uneducated as it is, it that Obama wasn't invited to that particular meeting.

 

He should have crashed that party with a few missiles.

 

Yes, they are highlighting some of the weaknesses of reliance on high tech intell gathering. But if they screw up and wander into an area of strength, they are toast.

 

How exactly could you do that with another nuclear armed nation?
How exactly could you do that with a bunch of armed insurgence fighting asymetrically in foreign lands?

Actually, yes it does.

I meant arrogant in their stated expection of both the infallibility and effectiveness of US military operations so that the "only" reason for any failures is somehow the other party's administrative inattention.

No, governments are the dog.
Vested interests are the tail that does the wagging.

 

How about over time certain patterns show themselves? Like recognizing that drone operations don't appear to be happening at certain times of the day. That each drone only has a limited air time and must return for refueling. That with so much area to cover, there are down times in certain areas because there is a very limited number of drones. etc. etc. etc.

Sometimes simple observation coupled with readily available information and simple logic can be most effective against the highest tech opponents.

 

Specifics are for those I pay to perform. Our job is to demand the task be completed based on their application for the position. I don't waste time and money micro-managing.

Oh sure, in a class full of dunces, but I think we both know the statistical absurdity of that argument.

And of course, no one said "only", but you knew that right?

I hate to break it to you, but we are both correct here.

 

But how about when before one drone leaves the AOR another shows up to take over? Drones, unlike human pilots, can stay aloft for quite sometime. High and out of sight. Pilots fly drones from the comfort of air conditioned buildings and can place drones on autopilot while they get up and stretch and enjoy a cup of coffee. You underestimate drones. Drones are not the weak point. Human intel is.

 

The interesting thing is that these terrorist seemed to have no fear of gathering in a large group like this. When Bush was pres they were afraid to poke their heads out of their caves.