Making loans to low income women to get abortions

I think American conservatives should bring this up for a vote, and then when the progressive side votes it down, conservatives will be able to tell the progressive crowd that they have no right to complain about low income women not being able to get abortions ever again.

Name one thing that progressive Pro-Choicers would have to lose from this proposal. I don't think you can.

(Other than if it passed, they wouldn't be able to keep complaining about low income women and how we need free taxpayer-funded abortions)

 

Who do you think was paying for these abortions before RvW got overturned?

 

Why do patients have to go through extra hoops to satisfy the religious fanatics?

 

If you want a loan from everybody else, got to go through extra hoops.

Of course, there's nothing preventing a Pro-Choice charity from making loans to these women. I wonder why that does not happen...

 

Canada has no laws against abortion and pays for abortion through their single payer healthcare system.

They have fewer abortions per capita than we do.

It's about rights to human bodily autonomy and women's healthcare - not payment.

 

"In France, getting an abortion after 14 weeks gestation requires approval from a physician. In Germany, anybody seeking an abortion must undergo mandatory counselling. Norway has abortion on request, but only in the first trimester.

But in Canada, there is no federal law whatsoever restricting abortion.

Trying to abort a healthy fetus at eight months gestation will get you rejected by a hospital's ethical guidelines, but there’s nothing illegal about it. And it's all due to a rapid-fire series of events in the late 1980s so politically traumatic that most Canadian politicians still prefer to pretend it never happened."
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read more: How Canada came to have no federal law whatsoever on abortion | National Post

 

Pro-Lifers will never pass this because it gives women a choice, which they are against or else they would be Pro-Choice.

 

Amen. The anti-choice crowd gets more unhinged by the week.

 

I think you have hit on the key part of this proposal - state sponsored rape as punishment for wanting an abortion. Republicans have already tried to get this up in at least one state and will no doubt try again. It accords perfectly with their view of women, especially women who dare to have sex outside marriage.

Personally I am fine with this under one condition - every legislator who voted for the bill and a random selection of voters who supported it get a similar sized probe inserted in an orifice below the waist EVERY time this happens to a woman who requests an abortion. The woman doesn't get the probe until all the rest do and the 'clock' stops for the process.

If this really is about saving lives rather than controlling women then this would be a small sacrifice.

 

I have an even BETTER suggestion

How about the government provide free healthcare including LARCs Long acting Reversible Contraception? Prevent unwanted pregnancy in the first place

Oh! And BTW although a large number of women have more than one bottling that is over thirty years of fertility. No one (excepting Münchausen syndrome) are having serial abortions by choice

 

Why is this just about women? It takes two to get pregnant. Why would the onus be on the women to take out a loan and pay it back? Why doesn’t the sperm donor have to watch a ‘short little Pro-life video’ and see an ultrasound of the fetus and help pay for an abortion? What a misogynistic proposal.

Why doesn’t the baby daddy have to get a loan and be forced to watch a video of the fetus he helped make?

How about an interest free loan, not being forced to watch videos, and up to 20 weeks gestation? Or better yet, how about allowing women the fundamental right to determine what they do with their bodies and not restrict health insurance coverage related to abortions.

 

I think you are a crypto-pro-choicer. Someone who will not admit they are pro-choice. Anyway, 3 mifepristone 200mg tabs cost around $290, less than half as much as a medical abortion. It looks like the government could get a deal on them and provide them to women holding a WIC card, saving some tax payer money. Right right?

 

Project 2025 (the GOP plan for the next presidency) wants to ban the use of abortion pills https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-14.pdf. Page 10 - sorry pdf so want cut and paste on iPad