Marco Rubio For President 2016?

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  1. richface

    richface New Member

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    Marco Rubio Really the Republican Savoir? I think if he moves to the Centre he can certainly turn the Republicans around to win!
    What do you guys think? Ready or Not Ready?
     
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    Enough gerrymandering and any republican can become president. I do not believe that, in a fair election, any fully conservative candidate could become the president in this day and age. A republican who doesn't want to impose his or her views on Americans could become president. Too many people want to choose what to do with themselves these day and don't want the government telling them things like that they can't have abortions. Dam hippies, right?
     
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    The fact is that perhaps the only true Conservative among the Republican candidates is Paul Ryan. A Rubio and Christie ticket would be unbeatable--even against a Shrillary Klinton. Rubio/Christie now have name recognition, which as you know is perhaps the most important factor going forward.
     
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    Glad to see you now support "amnesty", Libhater....just like The Gipper, huh? (see below)
     
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    I don't think the Pubs have anyone right now. Their best bet is to continue to work hard at keeping positive changes from happening. In four years they will appear more appealing.
     
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    Yeah, I just don't support amnesty for...'YOU'
     
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    Is that supposed to make some sense?

    Or just a "nanner-nanner boo-boo" 3rd grade response to the fact that you are supporting Marco....and Marco is supporting immigration reform, what YOUR side calls "amnesty"....

    ergo by default....YOU are supporting "amnesty". Thanks for joining the 21st Century, LH. :)
     
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    How did you come to the conclusion that I didn't support some form of amnesty? I don't even know what form of amnesty I may or may not support until the actual proposal is written and seen. And there isn't any candidate out there that I'm going to agree with on every single issue, but that isn't going to stop me from supporting any and all Republican candidates for political office as the main objective here is to defeat the socialists, i.e. your ilk from spreading a collectivized society that are draining our freedoms daily.
     
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    While I find it offensive that a completely incompetent affirmative action and retarded black (school records sealed) became president of the USA prior to someone with a Polish, Irish, Italian or Jewish surname became president (i.e. the ethnicities that have actually MADE CONTRIBUTIONS to USA society other than crime), I fully support Marco Rubio. The Democrats have proven themselves to be inept cowards incapable of standing up to the continued trouncing of civil liberties in the USA. Other than a complete collapse (my expectation at this stage), I can't see how it can get any worse. If it were up to me, I would shoot on sight at the USA border (Canada, Mexico and both oceans). However, the evil dictator feels that he needs additional votes to secure his position. I believe that the insertion of a hispanic is an equally evil and devious attempt to offset "Obama's ambitions". Other than being hispanic (i.e. crime rates just below blacks), I really don't find anything offensive about Rubio.
     
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    Turn to the center? I doubt it.
    Win? I have my money on it.

    I don't know who's going to take the cake in 2016, but I'm willing to bet on one of two scenarios.
    1. GOP turns even more extreme, and breaks into two factions. The moderate conservatives and then the more extreme ones.
    2. The GOP turns more extreme, but stays as one party.
     
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    How about George P. Bush?

    He's a latino Bush!

    Seriously, though, I hope that John Huntsman is the future of the GOP.
     
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    Haven't we had enough inexperienced know-nothings with Obama, George Bush, and Hillary Clinton ? Now you want to put Rubio in as president ? A guy who is about as lost as a senator as anyone could ever be.
     
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    Ryan cant win and rubio and Christie both of whom shot to stardom in seconds have not been vetted and the vetting process starts with your own parties primary that can get damn nasty, then it starts again if you win the primary. Im of the opinion Rubio very well may have some of the gleen rubbed off him during a vetting.
     
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    I am a liberal but I would vote Chris Christie, he is a fantastic candidate who should not be underestimated. Lets be honest if the Latino population was 5 percent Rubio would not be favourite. The problem for Rubio is he might look Good on paper but during the vetting process might be bruised badly. He couldn't even handle a speech can he handle all the scrutiny and nastiness? I think he might need more than water during the primaries. Apparently he is the republican Obama but the republicans do not even hide the fact that they need him to bring in the Latino vote that is insulting to Latinos. But still i believe he is a good communication but too far to the right can also cost him. If Hillary runs then. Is lights out.
     
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    In other words....exactly what you did in 2008 with McCain and in 2012 with Romney, right?

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    BTW, Marco's first big fight...is going to be against his 2016 Primary opponents, who not only will try to rally the Nativist vote to themselves by painting him as a "open the borders, let them all stay liberal"....but also start digging into Marco's past dealings as a state legislator.
     
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    Latest poll has Clinton with a big 16-point lead over Rubio. Polls this far away from the election should be taken lightly, as much of it has to do with name recognition (see the Cuomo numbers, for example). Still, Rubio is fairly well-known. Paul Ryan more so, and Clinton leads by 12 points over him.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/2016.htm

    Rubio doesn't win over much of the Latino vote either. Perhaps Republicans constantly playing the "Look we have a Latino candidate" card backfires.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/03/hispanics-hillary-rubio-poll-2016.html

    Chris Christie is the best bet for Republicans at the moment. Of course, so was McCain and Romney.

    Clinton's only improved her favorable ratings since 2008 during her tenure as Sec. of State, as has shown toughness in beating back Republican smears. She will be a tough out in the Democratic primaries again, and there has not yet emerged a candidate as strong as Barack Obama who can defeat her. Elizabeth Warren maybe...but all have a tough climb.
     
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    Rubio has no legs outside of Miami. He would bring the Miami Cubanos and their money, but the Chicanos and Puerto Ricans have no particular interest in him. Julian Castro would eat his lunch.

    Rand Paul is even nuttier than his dad.

    Any ticket with Christie would bring some appeal among moderates, but wouldan intelliegent man like Christie want his future tied to his association with either of those wankers?

    I would love to see a Rubio/West ticket. Dems would have a lock on the Latino and female blocks because the Latinos would know that the GOP was pandering, and West would lose all the really anti-black bigots, women, Latinos, veterans and most blacks.

    Bring it.:roflol:
     
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    I don't mean to sound racist, but a Rican told me once that Puerto Ricans and Cubans are not really counted as Latinos amongst the Latin community due to Puerto Ricans being American citizens and our refugee program we have with Cubans. Maybe this has something to do with Rubio not polling as well as people believe he should with Latinos. Kinda how Mitt Romney is like I'm Hispanic decent through my Great Grand Pappy. (Or w.e was said)
     
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    I desagree. Cuban and perto ricans are counted as latinos, is true that there differences, but not exclusion. In other hand, i thik that Rubio don't have popularity for reason politics. Latino community have become democratic voter. Even cubans, who historically are see like republicans voter.
     
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    We've all got to get over this race idiocy. Nobody is good just because they are of a certain race. Obama is good for poor blacks not because he's (1/2) black, but because he generally is for the poor (although his immigration policies are bad for poor and working class Americans).

    Neither Rubio or anyone else is going to be good for Hispanics just because he's Hispanic. If Hispanics think he will be, they need to get a brain. Mexicans have hundreds of Mexican Hispanics as their "leaders" in Mexico. Not doing them much good, is it ? (if it was, they wouldn't be jumping over fences to get in here > the USA)
     
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    Rubio is soft the dem's are hoping he will get the GOP nom.

    Rand is doing things, he is strong, he is assertive and also reasonable, he can draw from the broadest base.
     
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    Please keep believing that.:evil:
     
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    He's conservative. But I don't know about moderate.
     
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    You think they can with with either of these scenarios?
     
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