Marine Le Pen refuses to wear headscarf for Islamic Cleric

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  1. Chris Knight

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    Trust is the greatest currency in geopolitics and war, not money. Perhaps Brigitte does receive some sort of funds to be able to continue her public speaking. This doesn't come close to a general turned politician who has sold out his people to an Iranian funded terrorist organization like Hezbollah. Lebanon is a lost state, I can't see how it is in anyway a strategic asset to USA or the west now, perhaps you have access to information that I don't.

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    Trust is the greatest currency in geopolitics and war, not money. Perhaps Brigitte does receive some sort of funds to be able to continue her public speaking. This doesn't come close to a general turned politician who has sold out his people to an Iranian funded terrorist organization like Hezbollah. Lebanon is a lost state, I can't see how it is in anyway a strategic asset to USA or the west now, perhaps you have access to information that I don't.
     
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    Oh my father went to Harvard for his MBA after his graduate work at MIT.

    Aren't you the same gasbag that said everyone else on this board was out of their depth because YOU are a historian.

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    Oh my father went to Harvard for his MBA after his graduate work at MIT.

    Aren't you the same gasbag that said everyone else on this board was out of their depth because YOU are a historian.
     
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    Its a rhetorical technique: appeal to authority ("ethos" in the old vernacular)
    It lends credibility to her assertions and opinions.

    Of course, very difficult to verify on this forum, and some have claimed authority which they obviously don't have.

    Margot2 seems to have a sufficient grasp of events of the ME and expresses herself in a manner consistent with someone experienced in bridging to these cultures, so I have no reason to doubt her claims.
     
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    If you were an actual refugee that had to leave your home, you would have strong feelings of resentment to those who were the aggressors. I had a friend who was forced to leave Afghanistan and blamed the Taliban.
     
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    Thank you.. My experience isn't exactly unique among Americans who lived in Arabia.
     
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    The Israelis perpetrated the civil war in Lebanon. She's a sell out, but perhaps that's the only way she can earn a living.. Walid Shoebat is the same way. Selling hate and fear.
     
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    Sorry, you all look the same to us when you attack and cry Allah hu akbar, Lebanon joined the fight in 1948 so they deserved a piece of that cake.
     
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    Hezbollah is a political party in Lebanon. I don't think he sold out his people, but is representing them. Certainly the blood between the Maronites and Hezbollah could not be that bad if Hezbollah would permit a Maronite to ascend to the presidency.

    I don't have any special information I'm afraid, but Lebanon will always be important to Europe, I think, due to its geographic and cultural proximity.
     
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    Abuse of the Palestinians began in the 1920s...
     
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    Yea ? nothing to do with Islam vs. Christians and the future of Lebanon ? why do you Arabs always sell each other so cheap ? "Neh they couldnt helped it - Jews made them do it".
     
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    It is interesting to see all these so called experts on here claim that everything is fine in the Middle East, that there is nothing but peace and harmony over there. You all fail to see that the Middle East has been in perpetual conflict, war and tension for millennia. So you can continue to think up your deluded utopian ideals of seamless integration in the Middle East. Keep thinking that the Shia and Sunni states are your friends if you wish.
     
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    We started to abuse them when they started to raid us, yes somewhere in the 20's of last century.

    Dont tell me, Jews made them attack other Jews right ?
     
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    The Israelis drove them out of Palestine and destroyed over 300 Arab villages. They did the same thing when they destroyed over 60 Druze villages in the Golan.

    You really aren't a victim.
     
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    For much of its history the ME was a sleepy, apolitical backwater... Are you comparing them to the European conquest of the Americas?
     
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    No, Ive never said I was a historian.
    But Im so happy your father went to Harvard..told to us in the usual condescending manner
     
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    Lebanon is a lost state that will descend into chaos once again within the next decade. Lebanon isn't of much geographic strategic importance to Europe. The Turkish Peninsula is the buffer zone. If the West want to unleash chaos in the Middle East, they only need to organize the overthrow of Erdogan. That will trigger the collapse of the Arabian Peninsula I believe.
     
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    Please provide me with a quote from a credible historian to reinforce your extraordinary claims.
     
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    Sorry, I would rather listen to her and my friends that I grew up with over you.
     
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    Requiring a woman to cover herself is a human rights violation. Moral dress codes are LITERALLY in the criteria.
     
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    Hezbollah are a listed terrorist organization by many nations around the world
     
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    The war started when Muhammad set up his religious-political ideology to conquer, convert or kill. Obviously you don't wish to acknowledge this.
     
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    The Arabian peninsular? no way. The repercussions are far more likely to impact east and north, through the Caucuses and into Southern Russia and the Turkic republics.

    Lebanon isn't strategically important to Europe, I agree, and Europe has been careful to keep things that way.

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    But not in Lebanon, where the Maronites and that president guy is.
     
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    I think there is a good chance the chaos will flow South-East and possibly provide the spark for Iran and Saudi Arabia to have a decent war.
     
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    Women, defend your human rights and get NAKED!

    (I'm with you on this one, bro)
     
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    Nyar, maybe Iraq and Iran fighting over Kurdish Turkey spoils. I don't think Saudi cares whether Turkey exists or not. But Russia would probably move to secure Georgia and possibly Azerbaijan, and any change to Azerbaijan would create reactions with Kazakhstan
     

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