Mask Denier Tx. Rep. Louie Gohmert tests positive for Covid

Behavior, yes!

Gohmert 6 feet away from Grijalva and wearing a mask. Grijalva speaking without a mask and sitting almost shoulder to shoulder with a colleague.

Grijalva is the House's Covid-spreader. He's a witch! LOL

 

That's like... five different things in one. If you quarantined, I don't know how you could get it. If you did any of the others, you will decrease your chances of getting it. But more importantly, you will reduce the chances of somebody else getting it.

To what? These are the best "warnings" available given what we know at this point. Maybe tomorrow science proves that, for example (just an example, don't do it!) lying on the beach for 30 minutes a day, and then going to a bar and drinking two beers makes people immune... We don't know. All we can ask experts is to do the best we can.

People unfamiliar with science tend to either assume that it's some "magic" thing that has all the answers at once, or they disparage it. They conceive of anything in the middle (that might be why the term "extremist" was created)

"Out of state tourists"? The likelihood that you will get the virus from an "out of state tourist" is much less than you getting it from somebody you interact with every day.

Look... when you interact with anybody. And I mean anybody... Even somebody in your home... you are interacting with everybody that person interacted with. How do you know they didn't interact with these "out of state tourists" that you fear so much?

It most definitely is protecting others. And even you.

Don't confuse the fact that you don't understand how pandemics work with scientists who have spent their whole life studying them not understanding them immensely better than you do.

And BTW, this last paragraph applies to absolutely everything that has to do with Science. Not just this pandemic.

 

Of course. Run from the truth. Call it a straw man. But in the end, you haven't provided ANY prescription that actually improves the situation, let alone cures for it. And that isn't a straw man. It's just the facts. So, what is unbelievable is that even though you have been told that wearing a mask doesn't protect you, you'd require everyone to wear one to protect yourself. Again, Selfish, and clearly doesn't protect anyone in the first place. So why insist that you have something that demonstrates efficacy? You can't, the medical folks can't. But you're sure willing to lend your shrill to the crowd that everyone must wear something to just protect you. So, in the beginning of this, folks, like you, said wearing masks protected the wearer. We can pull the tapes if needed. And even though some of us have remained consistent with our observation, you grudgingly now accept that wearing a mask doesn't, in fact protect you. I'd call that progress. And now, the last part, if I, or anyone else don't have the infection, what good does us wearing a mask then create? If it is only for your peace of mind, who cares?

And for the record, this isn't an "anti mask" thing. It's a fricken science observation. The real evil is folks, like you, who insist that masks do something useful, even though, demonstrably, they don't. Frankly, it's very unlikely that the kinds of masks being worn by most folks will stop anything thus not protecting anyone from the wearer of them. That is the science. We know this. The labs have already demonstrated this, but here you are flogging everyone as "anti maskers" as if somehow you have any legitimate science based data to back up your bogus shyte. Cause you don't.

I'm not anti mask. If wearing a mask protected ME, it'd do it in a heartbeat. And, because of the state I live in , everywhere in public I go that I cannot social distance, I wear one. But not because I hope it will help, but because I am required by law. That is as base as it gets. And for folks like you to continue babbling as if you have anything pertinent to add is just stupid at this point. Stay home. Don't venture out, see how that goes for you.

 

So, really, after all that bloviating, you still have nothing. You cannot put a solution forward, because there isn't one. You hope that what you're advocating here is effective, but the data doesn't back your claims, or you assertions. Simple as that. One thing that I'd point out to you is the virus had to leap to someone that came into my sphere. Meaning, it came from somewhere else. It didn't originate here in Texas. It got here because folks from other states brought it here. Or it got here from folks from TX leaving to other states and bringing it back, or International travelers brought it with them.

Are you going to guarantee that IF I get on a plane to say Europe, that as long as I have a mask on , and as long as everyone else has a mask on, that no one will become effective? Where is your data driven guarantee of that? You don't have one, and you never will, and you know it.

So what then? Everyone must isolate? Is that your only option? Simple stuff here dude. We did that, and yet it still spread. Especially when your goons for governors pushed the sick into nursing homes. That's flat out evil. And now? Now what? Your team have zero credibility anymore. All of the mantras have turned out to be effectively wrong. Folks said "testing will stop the spread" We asked how. Folks demanded more testing. Now folks are demanding tracking of everyone.... cause, who knows. Face it, you're advocating for the team that would have us reduced to less than the soviet union under the tyranny of folks who get this wrong at every turn.

We get it, you're afraid. But trying to assuage fear with BS is never a good idea, and frankly you should quit.

 

Do. NOT assign positions to me that I do not take
That is an infraction and will be reported

 

So you will only wear a mask of it protects you

and you call ME selfish?

 

LOL.... I guess the well crafted explanation evaded you. But you go ahead... wear a mask as if it will actually protect you. See how that works for you. Better, be the mask nazi and attack everyone around you who you fear. That ought to make quite a sight....

 

you can get infected five minutes after you break quarantine and without a mask you spread that as you go.

you are NOT doing what the medical folks say if you refuse to wear a mask

 

Are you being the kettle here??? LOL

 

From whom? Whom do you suppose is going to infect me? Clearly you don't understand how this works....

 

Nope! Mine is only the stupid mask. For the other one you'll have to complain to the poster I was responding to.

So I see you believe this is all about you. Seems to be a prevalent idea on the right. Kinda reminds you of Trump, who would throw his family under the bus, if that helped him in some way.

To reasonable people, and to me, it's not about me. It's about my family. To me, my dying is not the worst thing that could happen. There are far worse things. Me infecting a family member would be much worse. Or the virus giving me a life-long health problem that would make me a burden for my family. To me, unlike you, dying would be much preferable to any of those.

So the difference is clear. The only concern you have expressed is whether or not YOU get infected or die. Mine is that I infect somebody else. I'm not judging you. Maybe you live alone. Or maybe you don't like your family that much (I'm only speculating)... But my case is obviously different.

In yours, given that your concern is not your family, it would be ludicrous to try to convince you that wearing a mask is a good thing because it protects others. But keep in mind that you not wearing a mask also affects the economy. The longer it take for this country to open up completely, the worse Trump's financial crisis will become.

And if even THAT doesn't move you, consider the ultimate consequence. The one that I am sure even you will care about and will be concerned: it will hurt Trump's chances of getting reelected.

You don't want to be one of the culprits of that happening, do you? Well then... wear a f****g mask!

 

Are you advocating for wearing masks at home? You were anti mask at home the other day. Or were you pro masks at home the other day and I misunderstood you? Tell me you are wearing one at home and want others to and I will retract. Otherwise my statement stands.

 

The "solution" is a vaccine. Absent of that all we can do is mitigate the effects. Wearing masks, saves lives. Not wearing masks kill people.

Easy as that.

And, of course, you just.... uhmmm.... "forgot" to quote that data that refutes my claim, right?

Who the f... hell cares? It's there now! I think that's childish.

I can't even guarantee that that plane won't fall into the ocean and kill everybody! And yet... you're on the plane. Why? Because though the risk exists, it is mitigated to the point that the need to fly outweighs the risk.

Exactly the same for wearing the mask.

Now.. so what if we can't "guarantee" that nobody will become infected? If the reason you got on that plane does not outweigh the risk, you should not be on that plane in the first place. But what if nobody "guarantees" this? Are you saying that then nobody should wear a mask? Or are you pushing to ban air travel until the pandemic is over? State your point, for God's sake!

I don't know if you've lived enough to understand this, but in life all we can do is mitigate the risks. "Guarantees" are for refrigerators and TVs. Not for people. As we grow older we realize that this is a fact of life. And you'll learn it too, some day.

Ok. I'm listening. What is your option? The one that "guarantees" that nobody will get infected. What is it?

And why did I even have to ask?

 

Yup, and that's why I encourage you and other folks like you to stay locked down until this virus and all natures selected survive it! It's better that way and less fear mongering if the frightened just slowly and quietly disappear from the equation

 

So you’re gonna lock down half the country indefinitely?
How’s the economy gonna react to that nonsense...

 

Not anti-mask anywhere. You wanna wear one at home go for it

 

That makes no sense

 

Any time you leave your house you are at risk of getting infected. Do you not understand the nature of pandemics?

 

Glad you asked. I have perhaps a different perspective here. I can't fix what is already out there. But.... I would create an international body that would target bio labs that are creating these kinds of weapons in their labs and shut them down. For good. No more, "we didn't understand the threat to the global community that letting one of the bugs out would cause." crap. No more. For now, we have to allow the virus to run its course. That sounds harsh, but there isn't anything else to do, until a vaccine can be deployed. There is zero guarantee that anything will either stop you from being infected, or worse, react poorly to it. And for the record, being infected for like ~99% of the folks who are being infected isn't deadly. Those are the data and the facts. Yup, folks will be effected, but for most, it isn't a dire threat. And for those that it might be, quarantine them, protect them. Isolate the elderly, and make testing required to get access to them. The average age of a death is ~78, and HALF of the deaths are from allowing infections spread through nursing homes. Thanks Andy the ****** from NY. and his buddy from NJ.

For the rest of folks, it might not be pleasant, but it is a sure damn site better than destroying the world around us by hiding in fear, and shutting off all of our ability to interact as humans. There is a life lesson in this. So many of us seem to have forgotten what is really important.

 

Really... do tell. If I get into the car, and drive around does the car infect me? Your logic is laughable.

 

Doing so leaves you in quarantine. Get out of that car and go into a store or anywhere that other people are or have been and you risk infection.
Stop trying to be cute. You ain’t

 

So you would sacrifice anyone over what... 50... and anyone who is at all health compromised in the false hope that you can rescue the economy?

oh

 

I hesitate to ask because I may be asking for the most idiotic conspiracy theory in existence, but what kind of weapons are you talking about?

And how does that help us mitigate this pandemic.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because this doesn't appear to be the "Conspiracy Forum" So hopefully I'm misinterpreting this.

What the hell do you think that "course" is?

Oh... you shouldn't worry about it sounding "harsh". It doesn't. It just sounds stupid.

The rest of your post is just a compendium of baseless numbers you made up. But, of course, you know that already. That's why we don't see references.

 

Don’t encourage the conspiracy “people” unless you want this thread to disappear down a rabbit hole

 

If you consider a rabbit hole a idiom for craphole then it's been that for many months now Just a sad lil dark place all the frighten come to and pray for a cure for what doesn't even ail them