Mass Shootings-Why Do We Insist On Thinking Anything Can Be Done?

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Yep, the ole cliche. To bad life isn't more important to you than 30 round mags. Even though you already agreed with me there is no need for 30 round mags.
    Dude(ette), you are all over the map.
     
  2. dairyair

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    Yes, and we have many laws to help protect from them. Why do you think it's illegal to drink and drive. No smoking indoors. Texting and driving.
    Yet, no good laws that make mass shooting more difficult or the ultimate, impossible.
     
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    Re-read what I was replying to when I referred to the cliche. This time try reading without any bias and read what is posted and NOT what you THINK is posted, as it will be IMMENSELY helpful in you understanding. Thank you
     
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    Those laws don't ban the product. WTH???? Didn't think that one through did ya?
     
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    I know you must miss him. But his spirit lives on.
     
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  6. Lesh

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    Nothing can be done if we ...don't do anything.

    That's pretty obvious huh?

    We call BS...
     
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    When they quit letting the likes of you make them react like a trained monkey, I may change my mind. Put simply dude, if they ever challenged your fantasies and became proactive, you would be on the next plane leaving the United States because your lies and your B.S. amount to treason.

    You want to try divide and conquer? Be my guest because those who are not active with the solution are a part of the problem.

    And you don't want a solution. What difference does it make to you if someone prevents another human being killed without gun control? The answer is that is that you feed off the chaos and the controversy. You cannot survive a solution. You'd commit suicide within a month. This is your life and it's all you have and the biggest reason you do what you can to screw with me.

    You're very unhappy with your life, but not wanting to save lives shows us what you think of yourself as a human being. So, let that OCD start working... in 3,2, ...
     
  8. dairyair

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    Few are asking to ban the product. Just make it more difficult and ban some products that make mass rounds down range tough to do.
     
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    And yet you fight those who would save lives by passing legislation other than gun control.

    Here's the real deal:

    YOUR side could ignore me. IF I succeed and some of my ideas become law, lives are saved and you can still lobby for gun control. What I'm doing neither picks your pocket nor breaks your leg. But, this isn't about saving lives. It's about the left wanting to ram gun control down everybody's throat. Unfortunately, the people on the right are deluded into thinking they can continue to win this "democratically" (that mob rule is going to save them.) They are in for a big surprise in the upcoming few years.

    You and the board troll have to keep me going at it with you, because, Heaven forbid, a few people get interested in preventative measures, lives are saved, and the need for your whining goes away, you are saddled with the board troll. You'd be dead within thirty days if you didn't have the control argument to wail about every day. You too would commit suicide with the board troll.

    If one of these pro-gun posters has a good idea, I always "like" their posts. I'm not singling those out individually, so one on one, they don't care about what I'm doing. But, you do. And the ONLY way my ideas could threaten you in any way, shape, fashion, or form is if they were implemented and worked.

    The reality is, you give me more credibility than the right does. You're afraid of a solution that don't include gun control. Surely, you understand that the right is not going to jump on your bandwagon and endorse gun control. They've sat on their ass and allowed you to get major gun legislation passed - NONE of which has given you the results you wanted. It's time to come up with something new. And, if you cared about lives, I pose no threat to you. The fact that you'll continue to try and filibuster someone your side claims has no solution testifies against you and says that you have a genuine fear.

    The fact remains: When the lawsuits are filed in Florida (if they have not already been) part of the strategy will be that had the government done what I've suggested (which is what they should have been doing all along) that massacre would not have happened. But, I do thank you for the opposition. Without it, there would be no further excuse to be here as your side is - in a desperate panic to make sure gun owners don't become politically proactive.
     
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    I don't believe in a solution that doesn't involve gun control.

    All I have heard for decades is the "non gun control" methods of solving this.
    And it has just got worse and worse.

    While on the otherhand all those who have adopted gun controls to resolve this exact same issue have pretty much instantly resolved it.

    This has been a journey for me. I used to think as you do.
    I no longer do.


    Your great experiment comes at a cost to the others around you. Their lives and their children's lives.
    Your country is a shithole. Not to mention the laughing stock of the world.
    You have made it so.

    It's just not worth it.
    Be responsible. Take guns seriously. Stop twating around.
     
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    Derp.
    Of course, the full extent of your suggestion to address the is is to needlessly, ineffectively and unconstitutionally restrict the rights of the law abiding -- it's almost as if you don't want to see anything done.
     
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    What would YOU like to see done?

    Nothing
     
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    You obviously haven't been paying attention.

    But, I'll ask: if you actually care about kids getting gunned down, why do you only suggest needless, ineffective and unconstitutional restrictions on the rights of the law abiding, restrictions that will do nothing to stop it?
     
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    I didn't think you had anything...
     
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    I'll ask again:
    If you actually care about kids getting gunned down, why do you only suggest needless, ineffective and unconstitutional restrictions on the rights of the law abiding, restrictions that will do nothing to stop it?
     
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    but but but but, we need them to killl the gov't bad guys when they come to my house.
     
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    You seem very upset again I don't know why you take this so personally I just said that I disagree that gun owners are stupid. I find many of them to be quite intelligent and some are on these boards. However you are free to disagree.
     
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    Because it works in every other developed country on the planet
     
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    Even highly intelligent people can have blinders on and be stupid when it comes to some subjects. Donald Trump is an example. Then I have a friend that can take cars apart and put them together again; he can build a computer from scratch. He's highly intelligent. He just called me and had been reading something on the Internet. He's buying into some cockamamie B.S. story that there were not 17 students killed in Florida.

    In this instance, I have to wonder what the point is in arguing about the same details over and over every day and not doing something productive about it.

    You seem to love the chaos and confusion and living in a delusional world where you win something each day if you get to post last. It don't change the bottom line, however, but as long as you get to attempt to play divide and conquer (and none of them have slapped you on the back yet) you can pretend that they are smart and you're just smarter.

    Sad part is, when their guns are taken, they will suffer amnesia regarding this point in their lives.;
     
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    You are free to leave at any time. I come here to DEBATE. I will continue to do that. I will try to avoid personal attacks but I will also not back down. Present your case and we can debate it. But you do not own this forum
     
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    This is not a debate forum. You acknowledged once you understood that AND if we were in a debate, according to the rules of debate, you forfeited the last time we tangled.

    Vegas giants, we can only rehash this stuff so many times in one lifetime, and virtually NOBODY thinks you've won any imaginary debate.

    I'll tell you like I told Dairy Air. YOUR side consists of a lot of people with emotional issues, like OCD. IF I did not have a relevant point and it does not affect your pet issue, you should have no problem with me. Your attention is what gives me credibility. Now, the way I see it, you keep arguing the same points on control v. gun rights types and you keep coming back to get your ass handed to you by them. They enjoy giving you the beat down.

    Now, I'm confident that once I've read the lawsuits being prepared for the victims of the Florida shooting, the lawyers will argue if certain things had been done, there would have been no mass shooting. When they do that and we can document that I was posting those ideas BEFORE the Florida shooting, it's going to look really bad for you. Should the county settle with them, the crap you've been slinging about me is going to look worse than anything that has ever happened to you on this board.

    You choose to be a glutton for punishment, that is your Right as an American. As an observer, what you're into is a lot like masochism, but I don't like doling out butt whippings on a daily basis.
     
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    Others have confronted you on your hysterics. We generally get a good laugh out of them. But let me reiterate again.....your plan has not been shown to reduce gun violence anywhere on the planet. That is a simple cold fact.

    And now the hysterics. Lol
     
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    Observing that you do not tell the truth is not a personal attack - what you just said IS dishonest and a personal attack because:

    A) You realize it is a lie and

    B) It cannot fail until it's been tried

    Now that's a fact, Jack. If you were running things, people would still believe the world is flat. Keep rattling my cage. Time is not on your side. The lawyers in Florida are about to make you look really ..... let's wait and see.

    C) Your comment was deliberately phrased to elicit an emotional response.
     
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    You do get very emotional. You don't have to but you do. But the fact remains the way to reduce gun deaths is by gun control
     
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    Gun control has not worked. That will be my bumper slogan solution for you.
     

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