Mattis: US must confront Russia on providing weapons to the Taliban

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  1. goody

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    70 US-BACKED terrorists were killed. PKK was formed in late 1970's. Time goes way faster in Litvanya I guess. TSK has been in charge since last summer !

    "It’s a Turkish message. It means PKK sleeps with the fishes"

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    Dude did you just threaten Russia behind a compute screen?
     
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    "
    The Dersim rebellion (Turkish: Dersim İsyanı) was a Zaza[8][9][10][11] uprising against the Turkish government in the Dersim region of eastern Turkey, which includes parts of Tunceli Province, Elazığ Province, and Bingöl Province.[12] The rebellion was led by Seyid Riza, an Alevi chieftain of the Yukarı Abbas Uşağı tribe.[13] As a result of the Turkish military campaign against the rebellion, thousands of Alevi Zazas[14] died and many others were internally displaced due to the conflict.

    On 23 November 2011, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan gave an apology for the Dersim operation, describing it as "one of the most tragic events of our recent history".[15]"
     
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    dont you see whats going between ulus of juchi and the the Republican administration?

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    US officials in Afghanistan suggest Russia arms Taliban - Al Jazeera
    www.aljazeera.com/.../officials-afghanistan-suggest-russia-arms-taliban-17042420400...
    13 hours ago - The United States must confront Russia for providing weapons to the Taliban for use against US-backed forces in Afghanistan, top US military ..."
     
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    man something is really big on the way, the terrorist who killed 298 Sergey Dubinski is very close to the Hague... of cos he will not hide the names who gave the orders ....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-made-a-forensic-analysis-of-sbu-tap.503094/
     
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    ahahah... Litwo you made my day today man, thank you for that.

    But Zazas are NOT Kurds.

    ATATURK ordered, and their ""BRITISH BACKED"" rebellion was over via SABIHA GOKCEN, the first female fighter jet pilot of our military. She dropped bombs right on their heads :) We name an airport after her. She's that respected...

    Isn't it interesting though? Regardless of the era, the west tries to use ethnic groups against Turkish State authority, and the outcome is always the same, planes drop bombs :)))) ahahhaha...

     
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    You're making a mess litwo. Before you duplicated this thread I explained why Russia took such a position in Afghanistan. Smart move by Russia.
     
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    Zazas are the Kurds, but i knew about your reaction ))) still i am happy that you can move on with the past " Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan gave an apology for the Dersim operation, describing it as "one of the most tragic events of our recent history""
     
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    The mujahideen were fighting for themselves. You think they gave two craps about America? As far as they were concerned you were simply easily exploitable invaders. You were played like a cheap violin.
     
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    you know that mujahideens were not a solid group of people, right?
     
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    Well ... start with the fact that the "Moderate Rebel" lie was a false narrative and ask yourself .. If there was no significant moderate presence among the "Rebels" .. who on earth did all the arms and support we were throwing at Syria go to ?

    Second - If we knew that the gulf states were arming the terrorist groups such as Al Qaeda and Al Nusra in Syria .. (with US weaponry) why did we not say anything.

    Third - If the Defense Intelligence Agency knew that that the rebels mostly Islamist Jihadists - why did we even voice support for these rebels never mind arm and fund these groups. What difference would it make - assuming we could find a few "moderates" - arming a few moderates when the vast and overwhelming bulk of the rebels are Islamist Jihadists ? Doing so would only support these Jihadists ( which is exactly what happened - some of the groups that were claimed to be "moderate" were fighting along side Al Nusra or the just gave them the weapons).

    This link has VP-Biden, speaking at Harvard, completely contradict the Obama False "Moderate Rebel" narrative claiming there was no moderate -middle rebels in Syria.

    The article then goes on to talk about US involvement in arms to Syria (if there were no moderate rebels - who were they going to ?)

    https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/
    Fox also reported on declassified US intelligence Documents detailing the weapons from Libya to Syria.

     
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    I don't really have much hope of the US confronting Russia on anything, earlier this month Rex Tillerson took off in a huff to Moscow, to confront Russia about the use of chemical weapons and to demand Russia abandon Assad and..... nothing.

    59 Tomahawks, one visit to Moscow and now not a squeak.
     
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    You should never limit the number of massages you understand. Could really hurt your chances with the kotyonoks, yanno? :roflol:
     
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    Aha, an American....
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    Mattis is only speculating on Russia's role in arming the Taliban and there is no firm evidence that Russia is funneling arms to the Taliban through Iran. Russia has been communicating with cooperative elements of the Taliban but the contact is limited to safeguarding security and getting the group to reconcile with the government.
     
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    You do not say... Sometimes he reminds me that imp from Voltaire's song:
     
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    I was going to ask exactly that - does Mattis have any proof. If he does then he should reveal it, and if he doesn't then he's an effing liar.
     
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    Litwo, we're friends, and I'm not Zaza. So it's OK for you to tell me Zazas are Kurds, but if one day you come to Turkiye and meet my Zaza friends and tell them they are Kurds, you're on your own :)

    Zazas are """NOT""" Kurds ! Their language is different, it is called ZAZACA ! Not Kurdish ! Zazaca is much more Irani. The difference between Zazaca and Kurdish is much deeper than the difference between Spanish and Italian. Not all Zazas speak Zazaca by the way. There are tons of Arabic speaking Zazas living in Turkiye. There are a significant number of Zazas who are (now hold on to your seat) "Turkish Nationalist" and militarist ! CHP was founded by ATATURK. A die hard Kemalist party. Kemal Kilicdaroglu has been the chairman of the party since 2010 and he is ZAZA from Tunceli. He's a KEMALIST and he defends our operations against PKK ! HDP is known as the Kurdish party of Turkiye. Associated with PKK. Their chairman Selahattin Demirtas is a ZAZA. He does not speak Kurdish because he does not know the language. Because his family is Zaza and they speak Zazaca. Some Zazas have left tendency and that's the reason why they tend to defend Kurds. Some may think they are Kurds but they are NOT. Zazas are being assimilated by making them think they are Kurds. No they are not at all !

    Erdogan said that statement in 2011 where FETO aides were all over his office when the activities of Soros' Open Society were peaked. He had to make statements like that because FETO-Open Society-CIA partnership was pushing for new constitution in which ethnic groups legitimately stated on equal grounds with Turkish identity which was already embracing all, pretty much like "American" identity. FETO-Soros-CIA wanted to change that to be able to render a legitimization of separatist movements which are "ideologically" based on ethnic identities, such as PKK. You don't know how big of a power struggle we had in between 2008 and 2014. The end of the Ergenekon trials in 2014 surfaced everything. Soros' children had to run back to the holes they came from. Erdogan "officially" apologized what he caused to after July 15, 2016.

    Litwo, I know you're a good kid and I actually like to discuss stuff with you but when you defend things you don't have any idea of in that certain way, that makes you sound rather ludicrous. It's no good because after a while it comes to a point where nobody takes you serious anymore. I'm having good time responding you and do not want to come to that point. Just sayin...

    Cheers !
     
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    No he's just trolling... Please don't disturb :)
     
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    "The Zazas (also known as Kird, Kirmanc or Dimili)[8][9] are a people in eastern Anatolia who natively speak the Zaza language. Their heartland, the Dersim region, consists of Tunceli, Bingöl provinces and parts of Elazığ, Erzincan and Diyarbakır provinces. The majority of Zazas consider themselves ethnic Kurds, part of the Kurdish nation,[3][10][11][12] and they are often described as Zaza Kurds.[9][13][14][15]"
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    ""Zaza Kurds in Diyarbakir (Kurdistan)", E.Chantre & C.Barry, 1881"

    the last question:

    just wander can Zazas get education on Zazaki?

    ps i love your story with Soros)))
     
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    and you know why? what Kremlin kleptocracy wants , no one in USA can give them. thats why we will see soon a huge confrontation between USA and Putler . Muscovy asks about Yalta 2.0 , they still live in 19c
     
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    Mujahideen
     
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    Lol....

    Litwo, that wiki page says:

    It DOES NOT claim Zazas are Kurds. It can't because they are NOT.

    Now, that line was taken from the book called:

    The Zaza People as a New Ethno-Political Factor in the Region

    Source:

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/4030804?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    The book is written by an Armenian who considers Eastern part of Turkiye as "Upper Armenia". But even she's a pro-diaspora fascist, she DOES NOT claim whatsoever that Zazas ARE Kurds.

    Now there are only 2 options left for our Litwo;

    1- Litwo can't understand English properly.
    2- Litwo doesn't like me supporting Russia because he's scared Russia sends little green men just like they did to Ukraine...



    ‘Little Green Men’ From Russia Are Coming—and Lithuania Isn’t Prepared

    http://observer.com/2017/04/russian-little-green-men-lithuania-invasion/

    ahahahah....
     
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    she is pro- The Armenian Highlands , i guess . of cos on Kurdish issue she is your ally . man its so clear why .... ps if you reread all my post , they all are pro- Turkish, its a clear that we in eastern - Europe need a strong Turkey (only democratic turkey can be strong in the long run) but you act like a child
     

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