Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It

depends on the persons work if the work he does has no value then no he doesn't deserve an honest days wage
what work you do has to have value what someone is willing to pay you for and the more value that work you do has the more someone is willing to pay
I can bust my ass all day long to build gadgets but if no one wants those gadgets or if you have thousands others building those same gadgets and there are more gadgets then those wanting them then no my work had no or very little value and I deserve nothing

please go back to school and learn how markets work

 

That's just un-American to refuse to pay a honest day wage for a honest day work.

 

Simply a fact that if you work full time you still qualify to get food stamps. The US government simply helps out the filthy rich when they underpay their people from taxes you're paying while the filthy rich get tax breaks. That's how the poor remains poor, the rich gets richer and the middle class shrinks. That's how it has been for decades now.

 

Tell me this.

Returning to the year 1933, the vast bulk of time, Democrats had a steel grip on the two houses of Congress. Sure at times they lost the president job, but he does not legislate.

Democrats using their steel grip have passed hundreds of pounds of laws. Since 1933 they promise we will all be educated and well off. We were promised they took the stairway to heaven and would lift us out of poverty.

So why is there poverty in the USA? They have said they will cure poverty since 1933. What happened to their plans for us all to own a home? I am 80 so I recall the party promises going way back to WW2.

Why no mobility? They have kept making steady promises to cure this nation. For 86 years that party has promised. I finally gave up on their lies. Do you see why?

 

No that is how it works sounds unfair but who ever told you life is fair they lied to you and did you a deserves
grow up and live in the real word


It requires more then just hard work it requires work that someone is willing to pay you for and the more in demand your work is the more you will be paid
almost anyone can put groceries in a bag or flip a burger but very few can perform open heart surgery and that is why grocery baggers and burger flippers are a dime a dozen in get paid accordingly and heart doctors rake in the big bucks
now if you pay a grocery bagger or burger flipper close to the same as a heart doctor why waste the time and money to become a heart doctor and instead just bag groceries and flip burgers

 

blasio wants to bring in illegals to take low paying jobs.

 

Dude we are talking in circles.

You said "because their parents can't afford it".


Thats what I've been talking about. "Mom" is single, does not know who dad is (or perhaps he's in jail), she too has no skills outside of collecting checks. She does not value education.

Her kids go to low budget schools, no positive male roll models, and have discipline issues both at school and with the mother they are not physically afraid of.

Those kids turn 18, mom can't afford to help with school. The kid works a low skill job that sucks, because thats what low skill jobs are. The kid can't afford to dream of college, and has no money for loans.

The kid gets knocked up or gets someone else knocked up and the cycle repeats. The govt is there with the wellfare checks.

Repeat ad nauseam and thats where we are.

 

First of all, you seem to adore the party that has promised you since 1933 poverty will be cured by them. I related how they have the stranglehold on our legislative bodies for almost all of the time.

Still they, per you, have not cured mobility. Not cured the poverty. Not managed to get the population very well educated. And per you if you earn a good living, you are filthy.

And per you, using your democrats own laws, the rich get tax breaks. I frankly do not know what a tax break is but I do understand fair taxes. And your party has made the laws.

I think you must reform your own party. Don't you see this?

How long did Democrats control Congress?
Full Congress and White House control by party in the past 100 years
Party Years in control
Democrats: 35 years
Republicans: 16 years
Neither Party: 49 years

Republicans held congress for brief periods. Democrats ran things far longer.

 

1. Don't drop out of HS. 2. Don't have children until one can afford them. 3. Get a fulltime job and keep working fulltime. 75% chance of entering the middle class, 90%+ chance of escaping poverty.

Easy breezy. Poverty in the U.S. is overwhelmingly a choice, not some static "condition" as a matter of irrefutable fact and not opinion.

 

I never stepped back into school after high school school wasn't my thing but learned at a early age if I want to make more then a meger wage I better learn skills that my employer was willing to pay me more to perform
got a job at a machine shop entirely level made just a little more then minimum wage and after about 5 years of learning honing my skills I was making 30,000 a year and when I retired I was making 60k running the shop

 

Here is a major difference in my Democratic party parents and me.

During my school years, they never kept coaching me to go to college to earn a good job.

When I changed parties to be a republican, I taught my children to get degrees from college.
My first wife, a loyal Catholic Democrat did not give a damn if her two children went to college or not.

1, Her oldest son. Bob (my step son) did not go to college at all. But he is one hell of a good worker and very smart. Bob went to work in the Semi Conductor industry and was highly sought by companies. He accumulated a hell of a good education in the semi conductor business. The maximum he ever earned in a year was over 90,000 but less than $100,000. Still he played it right so saved as much money as he could. At age 58 he owned a ranch of 1 acre plus a 1400 sq foot not very old home. He sold a home he owned in my area to leave CA. So he went to the next state with a few hundreds of thousands of cash.

2. Her oldest daughter. She too went to work in the semi conductor industry and she was able to amass a lot of cash in stocks. She owns a home in Silicon Valley.

3. Our daughter, she got a degree from a university. She once worked in law enforcement until she married a cop who took good care of her and their two sons. Not rich but they have extensively traveled all around America. Their next move will be to Colorado where they enjoy skiing.

Their oldest boy is 20 and has a job soon at FACEbook,. he has already worked a summer there. Facebook paid him on annum over $115,000 per year but at the end of that, offered him $110,000 per year, plus they gave him $65,000 sign bonus and $40,000 in stocks. So he will get his degree soon and show up to work at FACEBOOK. HE sure seems to be high value to them due to the $215,000 beginning compensation. This kid did not have to work but he worked hard all during school. My daughter homeschooled her two sons. With her degree it was easy for her.

I see nothing at all done by Democrats that helped any of my children or my step children.
I was married two time. My last wife had 6 kids when we married. She happened to be funny, smart and very beautiful. Her bad problem for me was she was a JW. They are excellent people but clash with my own religion.

Derek her son by her first marriage to a fellow JW operates his own business. He by far is not rich but was not much of a student. Cool dude but not that educated. She was not a huge fan of education.
Brian at around 43 is a millionaire. Brian builds custom homes. Brian lives in a multimillion dollar home he built and owns free and clear. He did not attend any college but is one very good goal setter and planner. He has at times built two homes, held them for price rises and sold them. He seems to keep buying lots.

Dallas is his next brother and works as a waiter at a high end hotel and I understand his income is pretty high. Dallas took a lesson from Brian and also buys homes, remodels them and rents some out and sells others. No college for him.
Tahara has a college degree and is a school principal.
Rachel has two businesses. Her husband runs the electronics business and she runs the home cleaning business. I know nothing of their finances.
Jonah, her youngest brother also builds homes. He worked for Brian and learned a lot from Brian.
The last kid, our own daughter is in the process of completing her university so she will become a registered nurse. She currently makes north of $70,000 per year.

But why did Democrats let us down by not ensuring our success?

 

I owned a machine shop that I built from nothing. My top man was extremely talented though not quite 21 when i hired him. I paid him at first an offered sum he accepted. I soon saw how talented he was so gave him a raise of 37.5 percent and he never let me down. I made him the foreman of my business. He managed at times 6 workers. My shop was not large since I started it on my good credit and got loans. Bob worked for me and he was very diligent. I hired him from one of my customers. He asked me to hire him and I did.
He was a good producer. Jim was working for a fabrication shop and he too asked me to hire him. Jim was pleasant but not very ambitious. He sought a raise from me which I had to reject due to my showing him that Greg my forman was a net profit for me but Jim actually cost me money. I promised if he got better, i would give him that raise.
Carl was a shop foreman for another machine shop. Me and his boss were buddies commercially. Carl was paid close to what I paid Greg but was one hell of a pain in my ass and Greg's ass. I fired him. Actually i told Greg to fire him.

Some of the guys names i have since forgot. But none were remarkable. One hire worked for years for Lockheed. i hoped he could do well at my Job shop. But he had bad habits learned at Lockheed so Greg let him go.

So these are true and good examples. Workers who are good and try hard do get top wages.

 

Every one of those family members have something in common. They worked hard and made good decisions. That creates a positive feedback loop where things continue to go well.

I sometimes wonder how things would go if people down on their luck were made to shadow successful people. Not necessarily CEO's, but it would allow them to see that yes, some of this stuff actually works and its not just a catchphrase.

One thing is certain, having the mindset that the odds are stacked against you is absolutely toxic.

I have a friend who is JW. Very distrustful of medicine but he will usually let me convince him when he needs attention.

 

When I started an auto repair business, I had a very wealthy customer. He put a bit of time mentoring me. A great man and he has a very wealthy son. The father owned a factory. His son became an adult and wanted to own commercial property. So he and his father purchased commercial and profits flowed in to them. The son departed CA and in NV also bought commercial. Knowing him I have no doubt he has a net worth of perhaps more than 100 million dollars. His fathers factory was worth a lot of money but i never took an interest in figuring out the value of it. His son was an only son so he accumulate all he did on his own plus when his father died, also took that over. His dad was the top student in Oakland at his high school so trust me, he was very smart. He paid me quite a bit of money for my racing knowledge and engines i sold to him.

 

Mentorships pay off.

Imagine if more burger flippers did that instead of tuning into the evening comics (orange man bad) and the MSM.

 

That's your great granddaughter? Damn, you must be the oldest guy on here!

 

I managed to be blessed for a few mentors. Fred the millionaire first mentored me. Fred had at first a cabinet business. But he and Safeway stores hooked up and Fred supplied Safeway stores with all of their store shelves nationwide. Naturally his cash flow was enormous. I believe when I knew him he had some 40 workers working for him. This was around 1961 so a million dollars then bought much more than now.

He and his son bought commercial buildings in Oakland CA and in San Leandro, a well to do area and then at Livermore, CA. When i returned from the Army, I only talked to the son one last time and he moved to Nevada.

As the owner of my small machine shop. Frank was my next mentor.Frank had a large piece of land that he built his factory on. Frank made the electronic boxes for factories, etc that break down electric current from thousands of volts to what is needed by commercial buildings. Frank was kind enough to pay me double my bid price for an invention i created for him. That turned out to be my 3rd invention. My first was an adjustable camshaft for auto engines. My second a automatic nailing machine and for Frank I invented an attachment for his punch press machine so it could handle larger bars of copper. Nothing like it was on the market.
Frank mentored me in correct pricing of my work. He was a cool guy and had me to his home to teach me things. I had the open mind so he was able to reach me. A very good man.

Finally i invented a special machine that sanded water skis. Prior to the machine, they hired people to hand sand the water skis. My machine sanded the entire ski a lot faster. That particular company was a producer of some excellent boats some for very high speeds. And they wanted to also make Water skis. Very nice skis as it turns out.

One thing made by my machine shop for Fiberboard Corporation was packing machines. Their engineering staff gave me many orders. Finally if I found a flaw in their product, though not major flaws, they gave me permission to change the design a bit and of course explain to them what happened and amend their drawings.

 

Dammit, we all get too soon old and too late smart. My son is 58 and his daughter around 34 and her daughter jumping off the boat must be around 10 or so.

I am 80 and still chugging along.

 

Someone making minimum wage in their 30s or even their 20s ISNT A HARD WORKER.

 

Why would rich New Yorkers support him? Don't they know that he wants to take their money?

 

Do we know what "scofflaw landlords" are?

 

Why didn't you also ask, what's the problem with taking rich people's money?

 

Even in a hard labor job?

 

Nice! I just wouldn't have thought that 80 year old's used forums! Although I imagine that you were using them in your 60's at the internet's birth.

 

No one makes minimum wage in a hard labor job outside of paying illegals under the table to paint and even if they are only making 10/hour they aren't paying taxes on it so its effectively 12/hour. I know people in construction, remodeling etc and they make way more than minimum wage per hour. Even the people that stand there and hold the signs for road construction crews make more than minimum wage. The only people you will find that make even remotely close to that are high school kids working part time carrying around tools and stuff. Anyone in their 30s or 20s still making minimum wage is a loser.

About the only minimum wage jobs left today are McDonalds which no one past the age of 20 should be working for unless you are in management and door greeters at Walmart and that is hardly a hard working job. Boring as hell but not hard.