McConnell and White House counsel agree to coordinate impeachment trial plans

Easily, just follow the thread.

 

Transparency has been abandoned by this administration, why should the other side bother to fight fair?

 

Extortion/bribery...which are Abuses of Power

Gross breaking of Campaign finance laws by asking (forcing) a foreign power to help get re-elected.

 

Absolutely serious and absolutely criminal

 

Hate to break it to you but he's not being impeached for extortion or bribery. Abuse of power yes. But not extortion or bribery. Which has very set definitions that the Dems don't want to set a precedent on because every single President uses quid pro quo, which is a form of extortion/bribery. If they used it then not only would it set an opening to impeach every single President in the future but it would also eliminate a valuable tool of government (and I do mean the WHOLE government, not just the presidency) against foreign countries and even States in the US.

Scenario examples: MADD, tariffs, "let us put a base in your country and we'll help protect you...or don't and get taken over by the country invading you...your choice." "hey Montana...institute these speed limit laws or you won't get x government money!"

Where did he ask or do that? Please show evidence for your claim.

 

Extortion/bribery...which are Abuses of Power. Read that slowly. Read it again. Then read it one more time. Maybe eventiually you'll understand what you read

The phone call for starters...and then all the witnesses who testified that that was what Trump sent them to do.

 

And yet those words are not in the impeachment articles. I've told you why. One can lead a horse to water, but one cannot make a horse drink. You don't have to believe me. Check it out for yourself.

LINK: Articles of Impeachment

You don't even need to read them. Just type ctrl+f (make sure its in the text tab btw) and then enter the words you want searched. Now...if Abuse of Power is defined as including either of those words...why isn't it either of them mentioned even ONCE in the entire article?

Tell me, did you want Obama impeached when he extorted other countries? Did you want Obama impeached when he bribed them? Same questions to every single President that we have ever had. Because they have ALL done it. And future Presidents will continue to do it. I expect to hear you calling for their impeachment. Of course....I know that will never happen. Just as I know that the President is not being impeached for bribery or extortion.

Except that there is nothing in the phone call that shows "Do this for my political gain or you get nothing". And none of the witnesses testified that Trump ask for those investigations for political gain. In fact, the question was never brought up in any of the testimonies.

You ASSUME that is why Trump asked for those investigations. But that assumption is based on what you WANT. Not on any factual evidence. You can scream, rant, and deny all that you want. But reality doesn't care about what you want. And facts do not care about your feelings.

 

The HJC used legal terminology that did not contain simple terms which is why BLOTUS supporters are baffled and do not understand their BLOTUS is charged with CRIMES like extortion/bribery.

This part is explicitly about the EXTORTION/BRIBERY in question

This explains WHY the BLOTUS "loves" his "poorly educated" base. It is easy for him to get away with his crimes when they lack the vocabulary to comprehend the indictments in the Articles of Impeachment

 

If you'll pay attention to all the people who are strenuously arguing that Congress doesn't need criminal charges in order to impeach a President, you'll understand that they're putting so much effort into because "Obstruction of Congress" and "Abuse of power" are unequivocally NOT criminal charges.

I'm sorry, put that is just plain fact.

 

I don't have to. Reality has this way of catching up to bullshit, though it never seems to really get through to conservatives.

 

LOL, history will not shine brightly on the dem clown show.

 

They don't have to be. They are definitely "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", which clearly demonstrate Trump is not fit to be President of the US. NOT a criminal, just not fit to be POTUS, and very few people really are. Impeachment is emphatically NOT a criminal proceeding, it is about whether one is able to be President of the greatest country on Earth, nothing more nor less.

Oh, and I'll tell you what, If you're ever called up before Congress, don't go, and tell them it's "Citizen's Privilege" and Obstruction of Congress is not a crime.

I won't visit you.

 

Exactly.

Please explain that to this person here.

Because he seems to be misinformed about the matter.

 

Supreme Court ruling pulls rug out from under article of impeachment

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That second article of impeachment charges President Trump with obstruction of Congress for refusing to comply with the congressional subpoenas in the absence of a final court order. In so charging him, the House Judiciary Committee has arrogated to itself the power to decide the validity of subpoenas, and the power to determine whether claims of executive privilege must be recognized, both authorities that properly belong with the judicial branch of our government, not the legislative branch. The House of Representatives will do likewise, when it votes to approve the articles, as the chamber is expected to do so Wednesday.

 

A more fair witch trial than Mitch McConnell has planed

 

Cocaine Mitch's House of Horrors is going to be amazing.

Chuckie Schumer is already groveling, and he's not even in the Thunderdome yet.

 

Obviously BLOTUS supporters are GRASPING at straws AGAIN!

There are TWO potential outcomes for the SCOTUS decision.

The first is that the SCOTUS decides that the BLOTUS does NOT have the right to DEFY Congressional subpoenas for NON Executive Privilege related documents such as those related to the OFFICIAL phone call between the BLOTUS and Ukraine which is the current precedent.

The second is that the SCOTUS sets an UNCONSTITUTIONAL PRECEDENT that the BLOTUS (and all of his successors and administrations) are ABOVE the Law of the Land.

The first option decision UPHOLDS the Constitution and the Rule of Law which is the DUTY of the SCOTUS to PRESERVE. Furthermore it VALIDATES the 2nd Article of Impeachment.

A reasonable and sane SCOTUS will reach the first decision without any problem. Roberts does NOT want the ALTERNATIVE on the RECORD of HIS court.

Which brings us to the option where Roberts decides to TRASH the Constitution, the Co-equal Balance of Powers concept and the Rule of Law and destroy the legal foundation of the nation as a whole. If he goes along with the DARK SIDE of the SCOTUS by deciding in favor of the BLOTUS he NULLIFIES the Constitutional POWERS of BOTH Congress AND the Judicial Branch and makes the BLOTUS a DICTATOR for life.

No sane and reasonable Chief Justice is going to allow that outcome and Roberts is NOT a big fan of the BLOTUS. For the second outcome to occur would mean the END of America as we know it. Roberts would become the next Benedict Arnold in the history of our nation. The odds of that happening are slim and none and slim just left the building.

 

Evidently you think yell typing accomplishes something.

If I would have told you as the Berlin Wall fell in 1989 that in less than 25 years both the FBI and CIA would be headed by former communists and 3 years after confirmation they would try to enact a coup on a duly elected President, you all would have laughed.

But here we are.

 

Abject FAILURE to even ATTEMPT to address the content of my post duly noted FTR!

 

Hard to address such a comical rant of verbal vomit.

 

Puerile flamebaiting duly noted and ignored for derogatory reasons.

 

While ignoring the flamebaiting of the yell typing.

 

Sad that you have NOTHING to support your last DESPERATE grasp of hope for your BLOTUS!

 

Thank you for confirming that you cannot demonstrate your claim to be true.

 

If Trump wins in 2020, who's bullshit will reality have caught up with ?