McDonald's is rolling out self-service kiosks. Adios, cashiers ?

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  1. Ryriena

    Ryriena New Member Past Donor

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    I haven't insulted anyone I just stated I rather not use automatic items if I don't have too. I have read my original comment it is you that hasn't read or understood said comment. I don't use regular banks either I use credit unions instead so their aren't going to have many locations in my area. And sometimes I really need that cash, however, I don't need fast food since I can get said food from the grocery store at cheaper prices. I also don't have to pay $7.00 for a burger and fries every time I want one. It's not a simple yes or no question either.
     
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    Taco bell delivers, McDonald's can take a hike lol.
     
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    In college technically there his no benefit to getting an A or B, unless you care
    about Deans List or other mostly meaningless titles. Employers truly don't give a crap. Sure, it might look nice on a resume, but it's not getting you any jobs. The diploma is the key factor, since no one looks at your actual grades. Your resume and diploma gets you in the door. Your interview gets you the job.

    And none of it matters when it comes to burger flippers😀
     
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    Beating up executives and destroying company equipment won't make the company more productive, it will make it less productive. Less productive companies go out of business. Businesses that go out of business employ nobody.




     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some employers require a transcript, along with that resume and diploma. Maybe a cover letter and references as well. That entire package can get you the interview. But yea, that interview will often have a big impact on the hiring decision.




     
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    Why in the world would you want to do that?? The end-game of our technology is a society of leisure, where the automation does all the work humans used to do.
     
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    If you can find a fast food place where they actually speak English.
     
  8. Ryriena

    Ryriena New Member Past Donor

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    Rolles eyes, I have many in my area that's speak English....
     
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    I just don't know enough about this subject to say what the outcome could be. It could put many people out of work...eventually.
    I like the idea of those machines. Yes I like human interaction ect...but it is just easier to do it yourself. Pumping gas, ATMs, grocery stores. The only reason I even go through a cashier line is when I have a ton of stuff and their bag carousel thing is too small.
     
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    Try Los Angeles.
     
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    well to be fair... grades used to mean something, but they've been watering things down for so long, an "A" doesn't really tell me much anymore... in fact while we're being fair, a degree doesn't mean as much as it used to either, basically for the same reason... and really to be honest, graduating high school, doesn't seem to be any bigger of a prize anymore... it used to mean something between someone who did and did not graduate high school, but every year it seems to mean less... I mean just look at how many high school graduates are retaking high school classes in college now, because they tested so low they can't even turn a blind eye... so now kids are taking 5 to 6 years to graduate with a 4 year degree, and tens of thousands of extra costs simply because high school never prepared them... and lets be honest, the college just kept them dangling along, until the student could no longer get anymore loans and finally dropped without a degree...

    oh man what I meant to be a couple sentences is really turning into a long rant... I better stop... heh...

    but yeah, very few places care about grades anymore, or ever did... I'm sure most graduates can acknowledge WHO they met or knew as a result of attending, was far more important than the actual degree they got... thats why people are going for prestige over education, because that seems to become the largest factor on your job in the future... its not what you know, its who you got to know...
     
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    Ya, that's what I was thinking....How about ordering your burger on your phone app and having it delivered to you by drone? :clapping:
     
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    Really?????????? Who are you to say if stockholders need the money or not . McDonald s stocks are tied into alot of 401k's. Do you think that those stockholders have enough money?
     
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    Unintended consequence of forced minimum wage increases, for
    jobs not meant to be careers...

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    Most of us don't go to McDonald's for companionship...
     
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    What gives you or any one else the right to destroy private property? What gives you the right to assault someone? Do you think this type of behavior really helps anyone's cause. All this will do is get some one killed or put in jail.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) numbers. Everyone working at McD's is NOT currently making 4.3% less than $15 per hour. More leftist gobbledygook.
     
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    Should we have done the same thing when blacksmiths and textile workers were being put out of business from machines?
    So instead of expanding our technology we should keep it stagnant?
     
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    What they enabled you to do was offer a job to someone else.
    If the person with the yard, didn't have the yard, they wouldn't have been able to offer you the job of cleaning it up.
    Also, even with the yard, if they weren't able to compensate you for your work somehow, it wouldn't be so much a job as a volunteer activity.
    In this case, compensation was provided through tax help, though usually it'd be handled through some medium of exchange,...such as the resource of money.

    Heh, I guess then that as long as we've got people who want sex and people who need bodyguards, we'll have prostitution,
    but somehow I don't think prostitution, or other such body applying labor directly to or in protection of another body will be enough to sustain us as a society.

    Anyways, the point I was trying to make, which I probably didn't make as well as I could have,
    is that if we want jobs that pay money, then problems (needs/wants) simply existing is not sufficient.
    In order for money paying jobs to come about, there must exist people who have both problems and money.

    -Meta
     
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    Money is just an IOU. Everyone has problems, anyone can write IOUs.

    If two people have problems, and can solve each others problems, you can even skip the IOUs and still solve just as many problems.



     
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    If they're going to roll out kiosks, it will not eliminate cashiers. They need some form of backup for when machines fail, because they will. Power outage, downtime for patching/upgrades, hardware failure, etc etc. Also, there will be a need for physical people to maintain the machine, update it, service it, etc. If the machine takes cash at all, it will need a physical person to periodically empty it (and will promptly become a target for thieves and hackers, because it will be prominently placed for physical access--anyone in IT knows that if you have physical access to a machine, you can pwn it). I foresee a hybrid of people and kiosks together in the restaurant. Both McDonalds near me are hiring, incidentally--not laying people off.

    McDonalds' problems have been going on longer than the minimum wage hike. They face competition from other 'casual' restaurants like Chipotle, their food isn't that great, breakfast is only available during a certain portion of the day, etc etc. I will be the first to admit, before I'm accused of being some bleeding-heart--I realize that the min wage hike -does- have an impact. I acknowledge that it will force a rise in prices because of the razor-slim margin these restaurants are operating on. But I'd also caution that it's not the only reason this is happening. Technology is being used in place of people where it can feasibly be used--but that will create jobs to maintain and service that technology. Perhaps we could *cough* teach more of our young some STEM skills?
     
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    that's not correct. Look at Walmart for instance. Instead of having 20 cashiers for 20 lines.... they now have 1 cashier to work 10 self-serve lines, and then 10 to work the other 10 'normal' lines. Kiosks didn't eliminate all 20 cashiers by any means, but it did eliminate 9 of them.
     
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    Are you saying "IOUs" have the same value as money?

    Are you suggesting money (unified common currency) doesn't have a purpose?

    -Meta
     
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    I am saying money is an IOU. Different IOUs have different values. IOUs have a purpose, so do hammers. It is possible to achieve either purpose in more than one way.

    I am saying as long as we have problems that need solving and people who will solve them, there are jobs. That was true before the dollar and it would still be true if the dollar disappeared tomorrow.




     
  25. mdrobster

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    Well needless to say that this is where the world is headed. I.e., John Derek has excavators that are operatorless. They GPS receivers and the plans can downloaded onto the respective system and then they operate autonomously. I remember Trucker posted something about pavers with the same capability. These technical advancements will continue.
     

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