Media: Ron Paul delegate strategy is perfectly legitimate

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  1. Objectivism

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    absolutely true, with the exception of the ron paul statement. there are no facts to support the claim that ron paul supports some corrupt scheme to sell gold.

    i don't care about gold, i care about fiscal responsibility, and the connection between human nature and faith-based currency. gold is just an option, and not even a great one, but it does happen to be better than total collapse if it did come to that.

    the only president i will consider voting for is one that will bring more faith back into the government. obama/romney does not accomplish that.

    the people are losing faith, the dollar is losing value, the world is losing patience.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    his newsletters, propaganda campaigns, precious metal trade associations, political favors, acceptance of contribution et al show that he's in their pockets
     
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    so China, Russia, Brazil, Japan, India, Iran are not conducting trade outside of SWIFT ?
    Thanks for your "fact of the matter", and thanks for replying to a post about countries avoiding SWIFT in international trade, without actually commenting on it. It did not go unnoticed.
     
  5. dujac

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    nothing in that post changes or refutes what i said

    and of course some countries are attempting to challenge the dollar's hegemony

    that has been going on since the dollar achieved it's dominant world status, if not before
     
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    ah yes, the static theory of reserve status.
    You must be a math major.
     
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    not even close


    no, economics and finance
     
  8. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Backed by the bloodthirstiness of the US Empire. That's just about limitless. There is, however, a limit to the number of people willing to be cannon fodder when resisting client-states don't respond to losing thousands of citizens to starvation by embargo and drones strikes on weddings and funerals.
     
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    which qualifies you to lose $2 billion in 40 days, Like Jamie Dimon.
     
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    hush, our currency is backed by debt based consumerism and national service industry.
     
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    Is it really? Libertarian rhetoric speaks of freedom, and uses all sorts of nice platitudes about liberty, but at the end of the day many libertarians have never had much use for democracy, as long as it achieves results they don't like. Look at people like Hayek and Friedman's support for dictators like Pinochet. Dictatorships friendly to capital are superior to democracies, which aren't.
     
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    no it doesn't, i'm making more money this year than ever before
     
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    Friedman isn't much of a libertarian. As for their support of Pinochet, it's probably like liberal support of Obama. He made a lot of promises about peace and freedom and has done completely the opposite.

    As for democracy, I'm all for it, so long as it doesn't violate the principle that it is wrong to initiate aggression. If it's justified to initiate aggression against peaceful people because 50%+1 of those voting want it, then when can you objectively say that it's wrong? If 50%+1 voted to return to slavery for a subclass of human beings, on what principle would you base your opposition to it? Would it be wrong just because you think it's wrong? Or maybe you would not even think it's wrong, given that the majority want it.
     
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    For clarification, do I belong to the subclass. I can't answer without this information.
     
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    even ron knows he won't be nominated


    The Buzz | Why Ron Paul is pulling back

    The next generation

    Ron Paul sent a message to the GOP establishment last week that he’s not looking to cause mayhem at this summer’s Republican National Convention. By announcing that he won’t compete in the remaining primaries, Paul tacitly assured the party that he didn’t intend to disrupt the likely Tampa coronation of Mitt Romney.

    But those close to the 76-year-old Texas congressman said he’d become worried about a series of chaotic state GOP conventions in recent weeks that threaten to undermine the long-term viability of the movement he has spent decades building.

    Several incidents cast the campaign in an unfavorable light: Mitt Romney’s son Josh was booed off the stage by Paul backers, and Romney surrogates Tim Pawlenty and Gov. Mary Fallin received similarly rude treatment in Oklahoma.


    Paul retires from the House at the end of this year, and his son, Sen. Rand Paul, is widely expected to run for president in 2016 as a Republican.

    Against that backdrop, the Paul high command worries about pyrrhic victories: hostile takeovers at state conventions that win hordes of delegates but generate a backlash that could hurt the younger Paul in four years.

    Ah, the dream lives on. Or the nightmare.

    http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/19/3618912/the-buzz-why-ron-paul-is-pulling.html
     

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