Wow you’re lucky no more homophobia. (Sarcasm alert) I guess the millions of women coming forward talking about their sexual abuses is just micro aggression to you. I just want to how you would feel if a straight man grabbed your balls aggressively because you are a gay man.
They sound like sexually-confused teenagers. I expect most will come out as gay....not that there's anything wrong with that. http://en.wikimannia.org/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way
Homophobia? You mean the irrational fear of homosexuals? I don't think that has been a problem in my lifetime. What is feminism going to do about sexual abuses? Again, I don't see feminism doing squat about sexual abuse.
They are nutty Leftists living in a fantasy world. These deluded Social Justice Warriors should move their crusade to the people that are in most need. Somalia and Yemen misogynists would be delighted by their sermons.
Do MGTOWs have faults? Yes. Do MGTOWs have 100% unforgivable faults -- yes, which is their distrust of women who stand up for abused and discriminated men. But MGTOWs have also a lot of positive. Men should consider anyone who is against this to be their friend. This is something which appears in Mainstream Media daily since 1990s, especially in recent crisis.
First of all homophobia is not only an irrational fear the definition includes this: an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something. I am confused...Are you asking what feminism is going to do about sexual abuse of women? If you haven’t seen what has been done about sexual abuse then you obviously are very young or ignorant of history And if you are talking about sexual abuse of men, Let men take up that issue
Keep up the good work because men have to be protected in the work place From women. Keep up the good work so me will be safe to walk out on the streets. Keep up the good work so men will get paid the same as women for comparable work
And you think those few issues are the only problems in the world? I think my ex wife was trying to kill me. And she tried to destroy my life out of spite. I realized she had been lying for 25 years and dumped her. In fact we agreed to an amicable divorce and then she came after me like her worst enemy. She did things to me I never would have imagined doing to her. What's your biggest problem? Are you getting shorted a dollar or two an hour?
Ok..now I see why you are so bitter..Sounds like she was quite a loser and a horrible woman. But yes I do think women getting sexually assaulted and women getting paid less than men ...and it wasn’t “a dollar or two” for comparable work and women who were married losing their ability to get credit and women denied access to the best colleges etc...are more Important.Divorce always brings out the worst. I had a friend whose husband was having an affair and he told her he wanted a divorce and would give her half of everything.… Until it came time and then he turned on her and left her almost penniless. I am sure there are tons of stories about women who were stay at home moms getting screwed. What I find most interesting is your question about trivializing getting shorted money for the same work. No I don’t get shorted money and money is not my issue. But you personalize it and I speak for all women, you speak only for yourself. I speak for those poor women who two dollars an hour is a big deal. You only think it terms of your ex
what people have aversions to is irrelevant Yes I have seen it. I just don't credit feminism. Feminists are too busy whining about patriarch and other imaginary bogeymen to have any effect on sexual abuse. So only women should take up feminism? Fyi people (including men and women) do take up those issues. But feminists screech about it.
Wow, you really are Uninformed if you don’t think that feminists have done anything about sexual abuse of women.Not that long ago if a woman went to court about rape, the rapist could bring in a friend who would say she was a slut. A husband could rape his wife. They were no protections for rape victims and now there are shelters all over the country. There are support groups and lawyers who will help free of charge. There are organizations .come on try and learn something Do you think these changes just happened because men decided that or do you think it was the feminists who made these changes. A feminist is one who believes in equal rights for women. Perhaps you don’t and the people you know don’t but the definition of feminism is merely equality for women.... But you paint women who support equal rights in the most disrespectful way down to your sexist description of women “screeching”. I don’t consider Gloria Steinem or Meryl Streep shriekers. Actually I don’t know many men and women who do not believe in equal rights for women. It is only the insecure who have to resort to calling them names . The men I know are feminists...and they are strong men, not Insecure boys
Or You are ill informed of the clout of feminism. For only female rape victims. Likely not feminists. You say feminists when I think you mean women. Further if we do live in a patriarchy yes absolutely men changed their minds. No they aren't. They are people that believe in female supremacy. Women have had equal rights since 1964. I absolutely do not paint women that way. I paint feminists that way. You conflate women with feminists. I do. So feminism is useless? So because you called me mysoginistic you are admitting too being insecure? So You suggest men who are not feminists are insecure boys? Thats almost calling names.
Thank you for sharing. One of the tactic they use to silence men is the notion that since women have supposedly worse issues, men have no moral right to talk about their issues. On a small forum like this, all arguments are inconsequential -- there are neither losers nor winners. On a media Supergiant like Facebook, the existence of communities where men discuss their issues has paramount importance.
Even if indeed, women deal with more important issues, men have legal and moral right to concentrate on the issues important to us, and to bring these issues to public attention. This forum is small and inconsequential, but Social Media Supergiants play a role in shaping public perception.
Absolutely..Men have every right to concentrate on legal and moral issues that are important to them. No one is stopping them. But it’s kind of hard feeling as sympathetic for white males who have had privileges of other groups did not have. But no one is stopping males from organizing to fight all the injustices or perceived injustices they face.
What you highlighted is silly and Imagined. You have every right to talk about your issues. Who is stopping you?
No one is stopping me from talking on a small forum. People who use Social Media Giants to talk about the issues facing men are frequently subject to massive false reporting.
Feminists are people, both male and female who support the feminist movement And seeing a feminist as one who believes in female supremacy is just plain silly . Nobody wants to be superior, they just want to be equals and have equal opportunities... it reminds me Of when I have heard racist ssay that blacks are the racist and they want black supremacy. I guess to a white male seeing that they have to share the pie with others is threatening. Also saying I don’t know much about feminism is kind of funny since my occupation involves knowing all about it and having been an activist in the movement kind of makes me know something about it. But obviously you do not if you believe that in 1964 women had equal rights. Here let me educate you. There’s many more..here’s a quickie https://www.bustle.com/articles/127706-6-things-you-wont-believe-women-couldnt-do-in-1970 You say you paint feminists a certain way....I guess the women you know don’t believe in equal rights for women...because that’s what a feminist is. I think you Are one of those man who bought into the rush Limbaugh definition, It’s interesting the only men I know who deride feminism are insecure. Yes I describe men who oppose equal rights for women quite negatively and are afraid of the competition of strong women and see them as a threat and that’s why they have to put them down. It’s like the racists who put down black people.It’s the Same dance just different steps.
Women have more rights. So no more need for feminism. I have no pie to share. I don't read links. You want me to read something you can copy and paste it. You provide the Link as reference. If you can't be bothered, I can't be bothered. That's the claim. Based on what I see, it isn't. An insecure out of the closet homosexual libertarian in Texas? Whatever you have to tell yourself. Well I never mentioned such men. I disagree with your definition of feminism. Whatever you have to tell yourself.
Yes women have more rights and then there are those that want to take away the rights like reproductive freedom. Women still don’t have the freedom to walk the streets and not feel threatened. Women still or not believe when they are sexually assaulted. I just wish you weren’t so threatened by feminism. Since you don’t open links then let me just educate you so you don’t keep repeating that women had equality after 1964. Here are just a few things that they couldn’t do in the 70s They couldn’t get credit cards in their own names if they were married Could be fired for being pregnant Husband could rape his wife Women were denied admission to military academies Women could not get legal abortions. I also have to laugh at you don’t like my definition of feminism. Perhaps you should contact the Webster dictionary and tell them that you don’t like their definition and that you like Rush Limbaugh’s.
more rights does it make you equal to someone with less rights. It makes you Superior. And no nobody's trying to take away reproductive freedom. We're trying to take away your right to murder a child in the womb. you have the right to feel whatever you want. that's incorrect they're not believed when they allege sexual assault. They shouldn't be it should be taken seriously and investigated but we have a criminal justice system that even applies to people who commit rape. because anyone that criticizes anything else just threatened by what their criticizing right? you don't have a right to a credit card you do not have a right to military service or military education, and abortion is murder. I don't think a husband should be able to rape his wife. because it's not true. You want the right to walk down the street and not feel threatened you have that right don't feel threatened no one's in control of your feelings but you. You want to be believed when you make an allegation of sexual assault an allegation being taken seriously as not good enough. So I'm sorry you don't believe in the definition you presented you want unequal rights for women. You want women to their feelings validated by law however you do that. You want women to be able to be the judge jury and executioner toward men. I'm sorry that's pushing for Supremacy. Dictionaries are descriptive not prescriptive.
Actually you’re right...women have more rights with an embryo in their wombs than men without them. You can personify an embryo all you want but it does not make it a child. You cannot murder something that is not alive but it gives you emotional mileage....I call the acorns outside my house, oak trees. So you think a married woman should be denied a credit card...that’s real nice. Thank goodness women are admitted to the Military academies that my taxes pay for. I don’t know why you think they should not be allowed... But it is interesting to see how many women are graduating with top honors. I guess you just think women belong in their place like the kitchen I also have no idea what you were babbling about when you say that women want to be able to be the judge jury and executioner toward men. And I am also sorry that you don’t believe in equal rights for women which is obvious and what you are writing. You learn about a person by what they defend. And everything you seem to defend is denying women equality. You don’t even know what the word supremacy means because if you do you should be embarrassed..
yes they have the right to kill a baby before it's born men do not. [QUOTEPcan personify an embryo all you want but it does not make it a child. You cannot murder something that is not alive but it gives you emotional mileage....I call the acorns outside my house, oak trees.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about embryos I'm talking about fetuses and if they are not alive how did they grow? Also an acorn is a seed there's a word for Reproductive material that means seed when in all actuality that's more like an egg cell then semen. I think a bank should have the right to deny loans to whom ever they want. I don't know why you made the straw man. I did not say they should not be allowed. I didn't address women at all. I said nobody that includes men and women has the right to serve in the military or to attend a military academy. I honestly think that is great women should be allowed to pursue whatever career they want and as it stands I think they can maybe not an NFL football player but give it time. that's odd considering I'm married to a man. well try and read a little slower. I will repeat but read slower and take it in. Claims of sexual assault should be taken seriously. I don't care if it's a man or a woman making the claim. But they should be viewed as allegations until they are proven. All a woman has to do is claimed a man raped her or sexually assaulted her it doesn't have to be true and she can ruin his life that's judge jury and executioner. believe it or not I do believe in equal rights I just don't believe in special rights for women and that's what feminism is about. well I'm defending the wife while it's in the womb and I am defending the rights of the accused. You don't want those things. Because you have purposefully misrepresented what I've said in order to claim that I have something against women. It seems dishonest. well if one group of people gets to decide all under own whether or not the next generation gets to be born and another group of people do not that's supremacy. You can try and bully me but it's not going to work you can tell me I'm misogynist you can make all the straw man fallacies you want, you can suggest I'm insecure. This kind of nonsense doesn't work on me. I don't take personal attacks personally.
I'm not talking about embryos I'm talking about fetuses and if they are not alive how did they grow? Also an acorn is a seed there's a word for Reproductive material that means seed when in all actuality that's more like an egg cell then semen. I think a bank should have the right to deny loans to whom ever they want. I don't know why you made the straw man. I did not say they should not be allowed. I didn't address women at all. I said nobody that includes men and women has the right to serve in the military or to attend a military academy. I honestly think that is great women should be allowed to pursue whatever career they want and as it stands I think they can maybe not an NFL football player but give it time. that's odd considering I'm married to a man. well try and read a little slower. I will repeat but read slower and take it in. Claims of sexual assault should be taken seriously. I don't care if it's a man or a woman making the claim. But they should be viewed as allegations until they are proven. All a woman has to do is claimed a man raped her or sexually assaulted her it doesn't have to be true and she can ruin his life that's judge jury and executioner. believe it or not I do believe in equal rights I just don't believe in special rights for women and that's what feminism is about. well I'm defending the wife while it's in the womb and I am defending the rights of the accused. You don't want those things. Because you have purposefully misrepresented what I've said in order to claim that I have something against women. It seems dishonest. well if one group of people gets to decide all under own whether or not the next generation gets to be born and another group of people do not that's supremacy. You can try and bully me but it's not going to work you can tell me I'm misogynist you can make all the straw man fallacies you want, you can suggest I'm insecure. This kind of nonsense doesn't work on me. I don't take personal attacks personally.[/QUOTE] ——————————————————————————— I dont know why your quotes werent distinguished. My response is in bold ——You are correct only she can decide whether to allow a zygote to become a child or not....when he gets pregnant he can decide. When he goes through pregnancy and labor, he can decide. Who do you think should have the final decision? And to call that supremacy is asinine —- an acorn is more like a fertilized egg. A human egg can’t develop without a body to help it grow. An acorn cannot grow without soil . An egg and an acorn are both potentials..one a baby, another a tree —-that’s kind of sad that you think a bank should be able to deny women loans just because they are women. Thank goodness people disagreed with you and laws were passed to prevent that. I bet you think people should be allowed to deny loans to people because they are black or gay. —— no one has the right to attend a military academy ? That’s just what you wrote. You —-you are married to a man? I don’t know if that means you are gay or you are just self loathing woman. —-what special rights do women have that you want? Sounds to me like you have victim envy. Sounds like you envy the joy of nine months of pregnancy and the agony of childbirth. Poor guy. —- you know nothing about rape and the law...and the contempt you have for women that we just cry rape is despicable. No , women too often don’t report rape because of people like you. We go to court and are raped again..One in four women has been a victim of sexual assault.... but of course they’re liars. YouFeel so sorry for the accused but you don’t realize that a woman who has been raped or sexually assaulted is damaged for the rest of her life...I work with these women and girls
