Michael Moore says Michelle Obama would "crush" Donald Trump

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  1. Bluesguy

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    What doesn't work that way?
     
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    The admirable people don’t get the votes.
     
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    It is pointless to try and converse with you since your only response is that you've already refuted anything posted while refusing to answer direct questions to you.
     
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    It is pointless to try and converse with you since your only response is that you've already refuted anything posted while refusing to answer direct questions to you.
     
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    You asked

    Does than mean you would vote for the admirable person over the one not admirable? Then you answered your own question.
     
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    No, I just meant that scumbags win.
     
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    White flag noted and accepted
     
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    White flag noted and accepted
     
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    It is pointless to try and converse with you since your only response is that you've already refuted anything posted while refusing to answer direct questions to you.
     
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    no it started under Bush, don't believe the right wing lies, the debt doubled under bush due to this and continues to this day
     
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    it started under Bush and you know that, the trillion a year increase started under Bush, continued under Obama and continues under Trump

    in fact Trump is setting new record debt highs every month
     
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    fabric folds ... tee hee :lol:
     
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    :spin:
     
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    Neither would Thomas Sowell, or Candace Owens, or any other black political voice from the Other Side.

    Remember, he who sees race in all things is ... well, you know ;)
     
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    It started when the Democrats took back the Congress and budgetary control January of 2007. The Republicans handed them soaring tax revenues and a quickly falling deficit heading back to surplus. That you would even pretend that Pelosi and Reid after taking back the Congress would then pass Bush budgets is laughable at best. And I am all for electing more fiscal conservatives to Congress how about you? Which ones are you going to vote for? And certainly you are not going to vote for any of the Democrats Presidential candidates since NONE of them are even hinting at cutting spending and balancing budgets.
     
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    If you are after a fiscal conservative why are you supporting Trump?
     
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    I didn't vote for him but his policies are certainly more fiscally responsible than any one the Democrat side. Which Democrat with a chance running for president is more fiscally conservative and is pledging to cut spending? Which Democrats supported Trump's proposed spending cuts and are on board with his longer term plan of having his cabinet heads propose across the board spending cuts?

    Convince me the Democrats are the better path back to some fiscal sanity.

    And Michelle Obama is a fiscal conservative who would be running on her husband's coattails who along with his fellow Democrats increased the debt more than all previous congresses?
     
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    fake news, Bush was President, only Bush could change the laws and it was changes republicans made, that cause the debt to rise
     
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    Believing we could spend ourselves into prosperity with Keynesian economics was like believing we can put out a fire by pouring more fuel on it. Bush & Bernanke of 2006, and the Dems taking control of Congress in 2007 all poured fuel on the fire, to the point of which we will probably never recover from it.
     
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    we could start taxing the rich back to what they were taxed under Reagan, but we need to start now

    but like you, I think it might be too late

    and stop spending so much on needless wars
     
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    I wouldn't classify Moore as Dem or Republican. Not sure how Michelle would do personally but , Moore predicted a Trump win when Hillary was way ahead in the polls and almost no one gave Trump a chance.
     
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    What was that ? Not that this has anything to do with his predictive ability but am curious.
     
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    They should be -
     
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    Wishful thinking at best. Not only do we spend all money collected from taxes .. roughly 3.3 Trillion - we spend an extra Trillion on top of that in credit card (deficit) spending. We would have to slash spending by a Trillion just to get to even - then to pay down the debt slash even more. All that slashing would decrease tax revenue so the slashing has somewhat diminishing returns.

    Even if this were possible (and it would take decades to actually pay off the debt) why would we want to not do business with China - China buys a heck of a lot of stuff from us.
     

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